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Re: Time to give Black's minutes to Jett 

Post#61 » by pepe1991 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:22 pm

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p0peye wrote:
Apparently, there is no roster in NBA that Bamba can fit into.


Some guys on this forum, who are still active, claimed Bamba would :
- average Vuc stats on other team
- last in nba longer than Vuc

:D

Bamba is 26, he can still return to college and find good real job
Vuc is in the league, but for what? Just to collect paychecks? It's funny that every team he's started on is basically the same team. Too good to get good picks and too bad to make the playoffs. I'm sure his record for the most losses in franchise history will never be broken.

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Oh there you are :lol:
I said it years ago that Bamba should take chinese lessions , hopefully his manager was ahead of his time like i was :rofl:

Was it your prediciton 20 points, 12 rebounds 3 blocks for Bamba as starter? :D
Let's try with
4,6 ppg , 4,3 rpg, 1 block- fired :rofl:
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Re: Time to give Black's minutes to Jett 

Post#62 » by Blue_and_Whte » Sat Feb 8, 2025 4:22 pm

basketballRob wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
p0peye wrote:
Apparently, there is no roster in NBA that Bamba can fit into.


Some guys on this forum, who are still active, claimed Bamba would :
- average Vuc stats on other team
- last in nba longer than Vuc

:D

Bamba is 26, he can still return to college and find good real job
Vuc is in the league, but for what? Just to collect paychecks? It's funny that every team he's started on is basically the same team. Too good to get good picks and too bad to make the playoffs. I'm sure his record for the most losses in franchise history will never be broken.

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Re: Time to give Black's minutes to Jett 

Post#63 » by p0peye » Sat Feb 8, 2025 9:52 pm

Knightro wrote:I hate to rehash the Vucevic/Bamba stuff one more time, but I'll do it anyway since there appears to still be weird revisionist history going on.

The year before the Magic drafted Bamba, Vucevic averaged 16 PTS, 9 REB and had a .533 TS% on a 25-win team. He was also going into the last year of his contract. Everyone wanted and expected 2018-2019 to be his last season in Orlando.

There was literally no indication whatsoever that he was going to become an all-star the very next year. That absolutely wasn't on the radar and frankly, it shouldn't have been.

The thought process behind the Bamba pick was fine. He would be the backup center to begin his rookie season and then would take over when Vucevic was either dumped at the trade deadline or allowed to walk as a free agent after that season.

Where the Bamba pick got off the rails is A. he was actually not very good and B. the Magic didn't immediately cut their losses and trade him either during his rookie year or in the summer of 2019 before his second year when it was clear they were going to move forward with Vooch.


Speaking about revisionist history, seasons 2016/17 and 2017/18 are also known as years when Magic played Bismack Biyombo as starter and brought Vučević off the bench. Other than his rookie season, these are only seasons that Vučević averaged less than 30 mpg. It was no secret that Vučević didn't take well seeing Biyombo starting ahead of him.
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Re: Time to give Black's minutes to Jett 

Post#64 » by anothermagicfan » Sun Feb 9, 2025 8:54 am

Way too early for both guys to call them busts or bad picks.

Specifically AB has shown some flashes and has some solid games with meaningful minutes. Still so young and so much more to prove.

Jett on the other hand is in a different category. He reminds me of another Orlando Magic #11 pick, that also struggled to get playing time in the NBA for his first few seasons. Both players were drafted as offensive players with a good 3 point shot that weren't known for defense. The other player had 4 seasons of college basketball, was about 3.5 years older than Jett as a rookie, and didn't get considerable playing time until his 4th NBA season at the age of 26 which he played all 82 games for 22 minutes and averaged 9.6 PPG. He's currently the head coach of the Lakers.

AB and Jett right now look like really young players learning the game at the professional level because they are. Absolutely no need to panic over either of them.

At the same time both need to earn every minute.
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Re: Time to give Black's minutes to Jett 

Post#65 » by SHAQ32 » Sun Feb 9, 2025 10:05 am

Might need to start handing out qualification tests to post on this forum, lol. This person just tried to compare Jett to JJ Redick.
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Re: Time to give Black's minutes to Jett 

Post#66 » by The Real Dalic » Sun Feb 9, 2025 2:45 pm

anothermagicfan wrote:Way too early for both guys to call them busts or bad picks.

Specifically AB has shown some flashes and has some solid games with meaningful minutes. Still so young and so much more to prove.

Jett on the other hand is in a different category. He reminds me of another Orlando Magic #11 pick, that also struggled to get playing time in the NBA for his first few seasons. Both players were drafted as offensive players with a good 3 point shot that weren't known for defense. The other player had 4 seasons of college basketball, was about 3.5 years older than Jett as a rookie, and didn't get considerable playing time until his 4th NBA season at the age of 26 which he played all 82 games for 22 minutes and averaged 9.6 PPG. He's currently the head coach of the Lakers.

AB and Jett right now look like really young players learning the game at the professional level because they are. Absolutely no need to panic over either of them.

At the same time both need to earn every minute.

Except that JJ Redick was actually good at basketball, even in college. Jett hasn't shown that yet at any level. He was a reach on the night we drafted him and it seems like he will bust.
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Re: Time to give Black's minutes to Jett 

Post#67 » by cedric76 » Sun Feb 9, 2025 2:59 pm

anothermagicfan wrote:Way too early for both guys to call them busts or bad picks.

Specifically AB has shown some flashes and has some solid games with meaningful minutes. Still so young and so much more to prove.

Jett on the other hand is in a different category. He reminds me of another Orlando Magic #11 pick, that also struggled to get playing time in the NBA for his first few seasons. Both players were drafted as offensive players with a good 3 point shot that weren't known for defense. The other player had 4 seasons of college basketball, was about 3.5 years older than Jett as a rookie, and didn't get considerable playing time until his 4th NBA season at the age of 26 which he played all 82 games for 22 minutes and averaged 9.6 PPG. He's currently the head coach of the Lakers.

AB and Jett right now look like really young players learning the game at the professional level because they are. Absolutely no need to panic over either of them.

At the same time both need to earn every minute.


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Re: Time to give Black's minutes to Jett 

Post#68 » by eyriq » Sun Feb 9, 2025 3:05 pm

Jett working out will be icing on the cake.
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Re: Time to give Black's minutes to Jett 

Post#69 » by yoyojw17 » Sun Feb 9, 2025 3:17 pm

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anothermagicfan wrote:Way too early for both guys to call them busts or bad picks.

Specifically AB has shown some flashes and has some solid games with meaningful minutes. Still so young and so much more to prove.

Jett on the other hand is in a different category. He reminds me of another Orlando Magic #11 pick, that also struggled to get playing time in the NBA for his first few seasons. Both players were drafted as offensive players with a good 3 point shot that weren't known for defense. The other player had 4 seasons of college basketball, was about 3.5 years older than Jett as a rookie, and didn't get considerable playing time until his 4th NBA season at the age of 26 which he played all 82 games for 22 minutes and averaged 9.6 PPG. He's currently the head coach of the Lakers.

AB and Jett right now look like really young players learning the game at the professional level because they are. Absolutely no need to panic over either of them.

At the same time both need to earn every minute.

Except that JJ Redick was actually good at basketball, even in college. Jett hasn't shown that yet at any level. He was a reach on the night we drafted him and it seems like he will bust.

JJ Redick also played 4 years of college. Jett played 1 year... and a portion of it was played injured. Played in the G-League and has had few opportunities to play in the league and what many would consider his rookie season. IF... the FO believes in what he can become ... we will see how much opportunities they give him next year and the year after. Getting 5 minutes sporadically for a young player may not really put them in the best light as the continue to grow and get accustomed to it all
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Re: Time to give Black's minutes to Jett 

Post#70 » by RichCollab » Sun Feb 9, 2025 3:22 pm

I’m pretty sure Jett’s year is done. We are in win mode for the playoffs.
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Re: Time to give Black's minutes to Jett 

Post#71 » by JT3000 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 2:38 am

RichCollab wrote:We are in win mode for the playoffs.


... has anyone told the team this? I'm not sure if they've gotten the memo. :lol:
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Re: Time to give Black's minutes to Jett 

Post#72 » by RichCollab » Mon Feb 10, 2025 3:43 am

JT3000 wrote:
RichCollab wrote:We are in win mode for the playoffs.


... has anyone told the team this? I'm not sure if they've gotten the memo. :lol:


They will go 7 - 3 over the next 10 games.
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Re: Time to give Black's minutes to Jett 

Post#73 » by drsd » Mon Feb 10, 2025 8:31 am

pepe1991 wrote:
Oh there you are :lol:
I said it years ago that Bamba should take chinese lessions , hopefully his manager was ahead of his time like i was :rofl:

Was it your prediciton 20 points, 12 rebounds 3 blocks for Bamba as starter? :D
Let's try with
4,6 ppg , 4,3 rpg, 1 block- fired :rofl:


Biyombo is off of the FA market now. Is that something?

In all seriousness, Daniel Theis is off to Monaco. Orlando is running out of options to waive Houstan and sign a needed big.
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Re: Time to give Black's minutes to Jett 

Post#74 » by pepe1991 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 8:49 am

drsd wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Oh there you are :lol:
I said it years ago that Bamba should take chinese lessions , hopefully his manager was ahead of his time like i was :rofl:

Was it your prediciton 20 points, 12 rebounds 3 blocks for Bamba as starter? :D
Let's try with
4,6 ppg , 4,3 rpg, 1 block- fired :rofl:


Biyombo is off of the FA market now. Is that something?

In all seriousness, Daniel Theis is off to Monaco. Orlando is running out of options to waive Houstan and sign a needed big.


Where are they now:
Oladipo - retired ????
Payton - signed 10 days contract with Hornets
Hezonja- Real Madrid
Biyombo - 10 days contract with Spurs
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Re: Time to give Black's minutes to Jett 

Post#75 » by GelbeWand09 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:25 am

pepe1991 wrote:
drsd wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Oh there you are :lol:
I said it years ago that Bamba should take chinese lessions , hopefully his manager was ahead of his time like i was :rofl:

Was it your prediciton 20 points, 12 rebounds 3 blocks for Bamba as starter? :D
Let's try with
4,6 ppg , 4,3 rpg, 1 block- fired :rofl:


Biyombo is off of the FA market now. Is that something?

In all seriousness, Daniel Theis is off to Monaco. Orlando is running out of options to waive Houstan and sign a needed big.


Where are they now:
Oladipo - retired ????
Payton - signed 10 days contract with Hornets
Hezonja- Real Madrid
Biyombo - 10 days contract with Spurs
Evan- Olympiacos


With Moe Harkless, you don't even notice the difference whether he's still playing or not. His stats are the same. Big 0's. :lol:
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Re: Time to give Black's minutes to Jett 

Post#76 » by pepe1991 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:46 am

GelbeWand09 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
drsd wrote:
Biyombo is off of the FA market now. Is that something?

In all seriousness, Daniel Theis is off to Monaco. Orlando is running out of options to waive Houstan and sign a needed big.


Where are they now:
Oladipo - retired ????
Payton - signed 10 days contract with Hornets
Hezonja- Real Madrid
Biyombo - 10 days contract with Spurs
Evan- Olympiacos


With Moe Harkless, you don't even notice the difference whether he's still playing or not. His stats are the same. Big 0's. :lol:


He plays for a team that does not have Wiki page :crazy:
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Re: Time to give Black's minutes to Jett 

Post#77 » by drsd » Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:49 am

pepe1991 wrote:Where are they now:
Oladipo - retired ????
Payton - signed 10 days contract with Hornets
Hezonja- Real Madrid
Biyombo - 10 days contract with Spurs
Evan- Olympiacos


Dude: don't forget that Serge Ibaka was the big, splashy addition!
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Post#78 » by pepe1991 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:51 am

drsd wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Where are they now:
Oladipo - retired ????
Payton - signed 10 days contract with Hornets
Hezonja- Real Madrid
Biyombo - 10 days contract with Spurs
Evan- Olympiacos


Dude: don't forget that Serge Ibaka was the big, splashy addition!


Ibaka and his shady birth certificates, guy could have been 45 and on Magic sold as 27 :lol: :lol:

btw there was controversy about Biyombo as well, some GMs thought he is 27 when he was sold at draft night as 18 years old :lol:

Ibaka had one of most brutal declines without injury that has nba ever seen, at age where he should actually still getting better. 8-)
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Post#79 » by RichCollab » Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:11 pm

Jett’s been grounded for further inspection.
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Post#80 » by drsd » Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:25 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Let's try with
4,6 ppg , 4,3 rpg, 1 block- fired :rofl:


I am reminded that Orlando traded Biyombo away to pay Timofey Mozgov USD$27,146,666.00 over 3 years. His stat line over those three years was:
0/0/0/0/0 in zero games played.

Said Weltman at the time of the trade:
"Mozy is a terrific guy," Weltman said. "It’s a move where hopefully a fresh start with a couple of the players (like Mozgov) will work out. It’s all about how they assimilate with their new teams.”

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