selling everything(Challenge)..Utah Jazz

[Astaluego]

The Jazz have barely advanced in their reconstruction, apart from Kessler (even him is debatable) none of their prospects feel like a piece to build on, so much so is it true that this year (in theory) will be their first choice at the top. This thread tries/proposes to sell everything, what is salable...
What would you do or what do you think Jazz will do this summer?

[Astaluego]

some ideas....

Trade 1
JAZZ
In:Holland/Black/Beal/Future Pistons FRP/FRP 27(by SUNS)
Out: Markkanen/Sexton/Clarksonn



PISTONS
In: Markkanen
Out:Harris/Holland/Future FRP

SUNS
In:T.Harris/Clarksson/Cole Antonhy
Out:B.Beal/FRP 27

MAGIC
In:Sexton
Out:C.Antonhy/Black

[Skybox]

The ORL one should have already happened.

[SkyHook]

some ideas....

Trade 1
JAZZ
In:Holland/Black/Beal/Future Pistons FRP/FRP 27(by SUNS)
Out: Markkanen/Sexton/Clarksonn



PISTONS
In: Markkanen
Out:Harris/Holland/Future FRP

SUNS
In:T.Harris/Clarksson/Cole Antonhy
Out:B.Beal/FRP 27

MAGIC
In:Sexton
Out:C.Antonhy/Black

The value return likely won't appeal to the Jazz, but this is DOA because I don't see any way that Beal waives his NTC to end up in Utah.

[Astaluego]

some ideas....

Trade 1
JAZZ
In:Holland/Black/Beal/Future Pistons FRP/FRP 27(by SUNS)
Out: Markkanen/Sexton/Clarksonn



PISTONS
In: Markkanen
Out:Harris/Holland/Future FRP

SUNS
In:T.Harris/Clarksson/Cole Antonhy
Out:B.Beal/FRP 27

MAGIC
In:Sexton
Out:C.Antonhy/Black

The value return likely won't appeal to the Jazz, but this is DOA because I don't see any way that Beal waives his NTC to end up in Utah.

Yes I suppose you are right...it was the concept of sending smaller contracts for a much larger one...they would have too many players

[oldncreaky]

some ideas....

Trade 1
JAZZ
In:Holland/Black/Beal/Future Pistons FRP/FRP 27(by SUNS)
Out: Markkanen/Sexton/Clarksonn



PISTONS
In: Markkanen
Out:Harris/Holland/Future FRP

SUNS
In:T.Harris/Clarksson/Cole Antonhy
Out:B.Beal/FRP 27

MAGIC
In:Sexton
Out:C.Antonhy/Black

The value return likely won't appeal to the Jazz, but this is DOA because I don't see any way that Beal waives his NTC to end up in Utah.

Yeah, the Suns are in a tight spot

I do like the fit of Lauri to DET, especially if we manage to get a taste of the playoffs. No idea what a fair valuation is these days though!

[orlando_joe]

magic not giving black for a yr of sexton come on

[jayjaysee]

Klay and player drafted (assuming Dallas pick is in the teens) for Sexton and the two later 2nds?

Think the 2nds can be traded with no cap hold, so Dallas doesn’t trigger a first apron hard cap.. can always include Powell and no get a second back if that seems smarter.

No idea where you send Klay. But there’s time to figure that out..

[AingesBurner]

Utah is not selling everything.

[Cappy_Smurf]

Right, Utah is suddenly going to decide to extend their rebuild by years.

Not happening. They will strike gold in the lottery or try again next year. They might trade someone if the player demands a trade, but they are NOT going full teardown. They don't want a long term rebuild if there is anything they can do to avoid it.

They will try to hold onto Lauri and Kessler at a minimum. Other guys I am sure would be available at the right price, but I'm not sure anyone is willing to pay what Ainge is asking, otherwise those guys would have been moved at the deadline.

[Mr Loggins]

it feels like the Jazz missed their window to get maximum return for Lauri

[babyjax13]

Klay and player drafted (assuming Dallas pick is in the teens) for Sexton and the two later 2nds?

Think the 2nds can be traded with no cap hold, so Dallas doesn’t trigger a first apron hard cap.. can always include Powell and no get a second back if that seems smarter.

No idea where you send Klay. But there’s time to figure that out..

On behalf of Danny Ainge, I accept. Sexton may be too redundant with Kyrie, though.

[HadAnEffectHere]

Right, Utah is suddenly going to decide to extend their rebuild by years.

Not happening. They will strike gold in the lottery or try again next year. They might trade someone if the player demands a trade, but they are NOT going full teardown. They don't want a long term rebuild if there is anything they can do to avoid it.

They will try to hold onto Lauri and Kessler at a minimum. Other guys I am sure would be available at the right price, but I'm not sure anyone is willing to pay what Ainge is asking, otherwise those guys would have been moved at the deadline.

Bruh, there's four veterans left on the roster and three of them are about to be on expiring deals, with all three being such a terrible fit with the existing roster that there's no chance they're re-signed (Sexton, Clarkson, and Collins).

There's almost nothing left on the roster to even tear down because there's basically no foundation here. This, of course, means that any rebuild will be incredibly long regardless so Lauri will probably just age out of being a valuable player before the team is good enough to compete.

The team's current foundation is

Collier - Likely solid backup PG
Keyonte - Likely solid 6th man
Filipowski - Likely solid backup center
Walker Kessler - League average starting center
Lauri Markkanen - Was briefly a star but probably only has 1-2 star years left

And almost no draft capital to trade for a star as all of their picks before 2029 are bad outside of their own.

[Catchall]

it feels like the Jazz missed their window to get maximum return for Lauri

Maybe so, but they've never tried to trade him. He's a 7-ft, athletic, 50/40/88 guy when he's locked in. He also likes Utah and the Jazz organization. They want to keep him.

Jazz's current rebuilding plan is to draft high-caliber prospects in the '25 and '26 drafts, then pair those potential stars with Lauri and Walker.

[HadAnEffectHere]

it feels like the Jazz missed their window to get maximum return for Lauri

Maybe so, but they've never tried to trade him. He's a 7-ft, athletic, 50/40/88 guy when he's locked in. He also likes Utah and the Jazz organization. They want to keep him.

Jazz's current rebuilding plan is to draft high-caliber prospects in the '25 and '26 drafts, then pair those potential stars with Lauri and Walker.

This gives an absolute best case scenario of the Jazz being like five years away (as the team needs to both draft two stars which is extremely hard and then give them 3-5 years to develop) and Lauri is probably not going to be a star player after two years.

They should have traded him deadline 2024 and are now just kind of left with nothing unless he bounces back next year (and his value is likely still massively diminished and can probably only get back what the Raptors got for Siakam)

[AingesBurner]

it feels like the Jazz missed their window to get maximum return for Lauri

Maybe so, but they've never tried to trade him. He's a 7-ft, athletic, 50/40/88 guy when he's locked in. He also likes Utah and the Jazz organization. They want to keep him.

Jazz's current rebuilding plan is to draft high-caliber prospects in the '25 and '26 drafts, then pair those potential stars with Lauri and Walker.

This gives an absolute best case scenario of the Jazz being like five years away (as the team needs to both draft two stars which is extremely hard and then give them 3-5 years to develop) and Lauri is probably not going to be a star player after two years.

They should have traded him deadline 2024 and are now just kind of left with nothing unless he bounces back next year (and his value is likely still massively diminished and can probably only get back what the Raptors got for Siakam)

They shouldn’t trade him so…

[HadAnEffectHere]

Maybe so, but they've never tried to trade him. He's a 7-ft, athletic, 50/40/88 guy when he's locked in. He also likes Utah and the Jazz organization. They want to keep him.

Jazz's current rebuilding plan is to draft high-caliber prospects in the '25 and '26 drafts, then pair those potential stars with Lauri and Walker.

This gives an absolute best case scenario of the Jazz being like five years away (as the team needs to both draft two stars which is extremely hard and then give them 3-5 years to develop) and Lauri is probably not going to be a star player after two years.

They should have traded him deadline 2024 and are now just kind of left with nothing unless he bounces back next year (and his value is likely still massively diminished and can probably only get back what the Raptors got for Siakam)

They shouldn’t trade him so…

How will they utilize having Lauri to help them accomplish their long-term goals?

[CallMeKahn]

it feels like the Jazz missed their window to get maximum return for Lauri

To a point, I think this is true. That said, Lauri seems to want to be in Utah and there aren't a lot of 7 ft. guys that can do what he does in a general sense. I'm good with not trading him. That said, the other vets are fair game.

[AingesBurner]

This gives an absolute best case scenario of the Jazz being like five years away (as the team needs to both draft two stars which is extremely hard and then give them 3-5 years to develop) and Lauri is probably not going to be a star player after two years.

They should have traded him deadline 2024 and are now just kind of left with nothing unless he bounces back next year (and his value is likely still massively diminished and can probably only get back what the Raptors got for Siakam)

They shouldn’t trade him so…

How will they utilize having Lauri to help them accomplish their long-term goals?

Long-term goal of winning a chip? Pretty sure they are making the necessary steps now, like tanking for a generational talent.

[HadAnEffectHere]

They shouldn’t trade him so…

How will they utilize having Lauri to help them accomplish their long-term goals?

Long-term goal of winning a chip? Pretty sure they are making the necessary steps now, like tanking for a generational talent.

Okay, but literally how is Lauri being part of the roster helpful to this long-term goal?

This team is not competing within the next four years.