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[rilamann]

Hopefully this isn't a repeat of last season when Doc ran Giannis into the ground down the stretch of the season as we still lost to teams like the Wizards.

When you think of everything Doc has done from the moment the Bucks hired him until right now, how on earth is he still employed.


Bud and Griffin have to be like WTF.

Bud load managed much better. Some coaches like Thibodeau and Nurse like to drive their players including veterans to the ground; Doc seems to be like that too. I guess Atkinson would be the opposite but I don’t know.

The above is the reason I didn’t like Nurse to be chosen. Griffin was bad for other reasons. Atkinson would have been the best of the three.

Yeah, Bud could keep his stars around 30 minutes and still win 50+ games.

Doc drives his stars into the ground and still can't beat teams like the Nets.

When I would go on my Bud rants in 2023, I did always say that I understood there was always a chance we could fire Bud and end up with someone worse.

That's exactly what we have done....twice.

I still think Bud is a bit overrated. But I chalk up the Bud firing as a Be careful what you wish for lesson for me personally.

Bud is good, but he is worlds better than Griffin or Doc.

[randy84]

Can't imagine how **** this team would be if we still had to rely on the Jrue/Grayson back-court to step up in a situation like this. It's the right move to rest him, but this just puts more wear and tear on Dame and Brook's joints and we're really gonna need Kevin Porter Jr., Rollins, and Kuzma to step into bigger offensive roles. Not great, Bob.

Hard to imagine it being much worse, this is the worst team in the league sans Giannis.

Bucks are 4-5 without Giannis this year.

[ShootingtheJ]

Hopefully this isn't a repeat of last season when Doc ran Giannis into the ground down the stretch of the season as we still lost to teams like the Wizards.

When you think of everything Doc has done from the moment the Bucks hired him until right now, how on earth is he still employed.


Bud and Griffin have to be like WTF.

So if the medical staff thought those were too many minutes, why didn't they put a minutes restriction on him? It's literally their job.

The medical staff cleared Giannis, and they didn't put a minutes restriction on him. How is that Doc's fault?

Because ultimately it's the coach who decides on minutes. Reducing Giannis' minutes going into the playoffs would have been been smart. Doc is not smart. This is the same Doc who thinks it's a good idea to play Brook more MPG since 2015.

Doc had Giannis play an insane 37.2 MPG last March. Higher than February. "Medically cleared" or not it was a dumb decision. Placing all the blame on the medical staff, as you always do, is myopic.

[chonestown]

Watching the Pistons game now. Was an eye opener how well Malik Beasley is playing this year. And he’s only 28.

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907822/malik-beasley

Feels like another Horst loss.

daver's burner solved

[MikeIsGood]

Bud coached beautifully, our guys were barely playing 30 mins and won too easily and we were thinking it wasn't enough to be ready in the playoffs. Look at us now! We could count on our bench to win games then, now we can't even count on Giannis/Dame beating the most **** teams in the league half the time.

While yes, I imagine many would have kept him knowing what we do now, when people say things like this it is always ignoring that our roster was much different back then. Even in his last year: that younger Jrue was a 20ppg AS player, Lopez was DPOY runner-up, everyone loved Bobby back then, and we'd all kill for that Grayson Allen on this team with how little depth we have. The player personnel picture just gets rosier and rosier the farther back you go.

We don't know what it would look like for Bud trying to coach this older, slower, less athletic team either.

[Ron Swanson]

Can't imagine how **** this team would be if we still had to rely on the Jrue/Grayson back-court to step up in a situation like this. It's the right move to rest him, but this just puts more wear and tear on Dame and Brook's joints and we're really gonna need Kevin Porter Jr., Rollins, and Kuzma to step into bigger offensive roles. Not great, Bob.

Hard to imagine it being much worse, this is the worst team in the league sans Giannis.

Yeah....no.

[ShootingtheJ]

Can't imagine how **** this team would be if we still had to rely on the Jrue/Grayson back-court to step up in a situation like this. It's the right move to rest him, but this just puts more wear and tear on Dame and Brook's joints and we're really gonna need Kevin Porter Jr., Rollins, and Kuzma to step into bigger offensive roles. Not great, Bob.

Hard to imagine it being much worse, this is the worst team in the league sans Giannis.

Not even bottom 10. Worst I the League? I can't stand Dame, but wouldn't trade him straight for Jordan Poole. Bobby is better than whoever the 2nd best player on the Wizards.

[Dick Tate]

You guys are too much with your Bud worship. Durant and Booker are playing over 36 min/gm.

[paulpressey25]

While yes, I imagine many would have kept him knowing what we do now, when people say things like this it is always ignoring that our roster was much different back then. Even in his last year: that younger Jrue was a 20ppg AS player, Lopez was DPOY runner-up, everyone loved Bobby back then, and we'd all kill for that Grayson Allen on this team with how little depth we have. The player personnel picture just gets rosier and rosier the farther back you go.

We don't know what it would look like for Bud trying to coach this older, slower, less athletic team either.

I’d like to know how much player personnel input Doc and the owners have. Plausible Doc is behind all our personnel mistakes the past year.

[paulpressey25]

Watching the Pistons game now. Was an eye opener how well Malik Beasley is playing this year. And he’s only 28.

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907822/malik-beasley

Feels like another Horst loss.

daver's burner solved

In all seriousness, the Pistons are 26-26 and only two games behind us in the standings. Somehow a team without Dame and Giannis is able play Malik 27mpg and he’s averaging 16ppg on good percentages.

[MikeIsGood]

While yes, I imagine many would have kept him knowing what we do now, when people say things like this it is always ignoring that our roster was much different back then. Even in his last year: that younger Jrue was a 20ppg AS player, Lopez was DPOY runner-up, everyone loved Bobby back then, and we'd all kill for that Grayson Allen on this team with how little depth we have. The player personnel picture just gets rosier and rosier the farther back you go.

We don't know what it would look like for Bud trying to coach this older, slower, less athletic team either.

I’d like to know how much player personnel input Doc and the owners have. Plausible Doc is behind all our personnel mistakes the past year.

Definitely possible - I'm not a Doc apologist here. But sometimes people speak as if Bud would have solved all of our roster problems. If nothing else, our guys aren't older and less athletic because of Doc. Brook can barely move; Jrue's been a mess this year, too, and that obviously has nothing to do with Doc.

[BigO]

We’re a team that’s reliant upon our top 2 for virtually all of our creation. Giannis is damn consistent, but Dame determines the outcome.

When he’s aggressive getting into the paint, we’re a very good team, when he’s settling outside and not fully engaged, we’re a really mediocre team.

And there you have it.

And that is why you roll the dice on KM. He was a core part of the Big 3 and even injured KM was great last playoffs.

Kuzma has skills but he's too inefficient to be of great value.

No chance now to win a championship, but there was with KM. The ridiculous part is they waited all season to do this and just when he comes back and plays well (look at his stats since his return) they then decide to look elsewhere.

[randy84]

Watching the Pistons game now. Was an eye opener how well Malik Beasley is playing this year. And he’s only 28.

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907822/malik-beasley

Feels like another Horst loss.

daver's burner solved

In all seriousness, the Pistons are 26-26 and only two games behind us in the standings. Somehow a team without Dame and Giannis is able play Malik 27mpg and he’s averaging 16ppg on good percentages.

It's hard to keep Malik at $6 million a year when you are paying Pat $9 million a year to sit on the bench and not contribute.

[tydett]

Watching the Pistons game now. Was an eye opener how well Malik Beasley is playing this year. And he’s only 28.

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907822/malik-beasley

Feels like another Horst loss.

daver's burner solved

It's like PP doesn't even watch the games with a comment like that. Beasley is able to play like an unconscious gunner on a squad that has no expectations that is either a play-in or first round playoff loss material. He was easily the worst player for the Bucks last year against the Pacers, and would never have the role here that he does in Detroit.

He'll sign an 3/54 contract somewhere in the offseason and then we're two years away from "Team X has traded a pick swap and Young Player Y to dump the contract of Malik Beasley, who hasn't played in 3 months."

[Ron Swanson]

The amount of **** that Malik Beasley copped for last year's problems was legitimately hilarious. Borderline Top-10 most hated Buck for absolutely no reason.

[fan230]

daver's burner solved

In all seriousness, the Pistons are 26-26 and only two games behind us in the standings. Somehow a team without Dame and Giannis is able play Malik 27mpg and he’s averaging 16ppg on good percentages.

It's hard to keep Malik at $6 million a year when you are paying Pat $9 million a year to sit on the bench and not contribute.

Not trading Pat C away from Milwaukee B is completely unacceptable to me.

[pifhluk23]

Giannis will need to play in 24/29 games post asb to be eligible for awards.

[PG Graveyard]

The amount of **** that Malik Beasley copped for last year's problems was legitimately hilarious. Borderline Top-10 most hated Buck for absolutely no reason.

Yeah he was a great signing for his value. It would have been nearly impossible for us to pay him 6M right? I’m honestly happy for him. I enjoyed watching him shoot the ball

[ReasonablySober]

I don't think of Malik Beasley at all.

[paulpressey25]

The amount of **** that Malik Beasley copped for last year's problems was legitimately hilarious. Borderline Top-10 most hated Buck for absolutely no reason.

Correct. And I’m not claiming he’s a 16 game player.

But in case people haven’t noticed, we badly need better 82 game players. After today, plausible Detroit will be one game behind us in the standings.