Mavs Owner (Patrick Dumont) craps on Luka Doncic's work ethic

[Drygon]

The full reasoning on why Luka Doncic got traded from the Mavs according to Dumont

Dumont made it clear to The News that he, too, is a big believer in culture, and in specific traits the Mavericks want in players.

“In my mind the way teams win is by focus, by having the right character, by having the right culture, and having the right dedication to work as hard as possible to create a championship-winning outcome,” Dumont said. “And if you’re not doing that, you’re going to lose.”

Dumont’s tone again turned forceful.

“If you look at the greats in the league, the people you and I grew up with — [Michael] Jordan, [Larry] Bird, Kobe [Bryant], Shaq [O’Neal] — they worked really hard, every day, with a singular focus to win,” he said. “And if you don’t have that, it doesn’t work. And if you don’t have that, you shouldn’t be part of the Dallas Mavericks.

“That’s who we want. I’m unwavering on this. The entire organization knows this. This is how I operate outside of basketball. This is the only way to be competitive and win. If you want to take a vacation, don’t do it with us.”

It was pointed out to Dumont that when people read those comments, the assumption will be he is inferring that Doncic did not fit those winning culture qualities.

“Look, I think there’s a lot of things that come into play when you decide the roster of the team,” Dumont said. “And culture is very important. That’s what we’re focused on.”

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/mavericks/2025/02/09/mavericks-governor-patrick-dumont-makes-first-public-comments-after-luka-doncic-trade/

[41Dirk41]

Shaq Hahahahahahaha

[Bob8]

Shaq Hahahahahahaha

Shaq said few days ago, that he never worked out in summer because he had other obligations.

[Mavrelous]

I was shocked at Windhorst rant against Luka after game 3, calling him a loser outright, seems like the smear campaign kicked off back then, and it's despicable, disgusting and insulting to fans intellegence, carried by largest natiinal media outlet and team ownership and FO.

[Archx]

Dumont had one job to do. "Thank you Luka for everything we will miss you"

But no, he went on a rant like we're all still in school. What a piece of **** completely detached from reality. Statements like these will follow him forever. I can't believe this is actual real owner talking about it.

This was Luka in the finals and this dude compared him to Larry Bird and Shaq who both were one of the laziest when it comes to being in shape in the first place.

[MassimoPayne]

They are doing more damage to make sure Luka will never come back. Not even in 10 years when all are gone

[joesha1698]

I'm just going to point out a couple of things:

1. I do agree with him about Luka setting bad examples (conditioning, complaining, lack of defensive effort, lack of leadership)
2. Do I believe that's why he traded him? No. I think it had more to do with money.
3. According to AD he hasn't spoken with the owners as of the end of his first home game - not sure why that is or what that says about your culture? Not even a call?

I will add this final point - when your due 70 million dollars a year (probably the most any NBA player has ever made) you better not give management any reason not to want to pay you. I think Luka (whether his stans believe it or not) gave mgmt plently of reasons not to pay him. Say what you want about Shaq's worth ethic, he was the most dominant force the NBA has ever seen, and if im being honest, his conditioning looked better than Luka's in his prime.

[Archx]

I'm just going to point out a couple of things:

1. I do agree with him about Luka setting bad examples (conditioning, complaining, lack of defensive effort, lack of leadership)
2. Do I believe that's why he traded him? No. I think it had more to do with money.
3. According to AD he hasn't spoken with the owners as of the end of his first home game - not sure why that is or what that says about your culture? Not even a call?

I will add this final point - when your due 70 million dollars a year (probably the most any NBA player has ever made) you better not give management any reason not to want to pay you. I think Luka (whether his stans believe it or not) gave mgmt plently of reasons not to pay him. Say what you want about Shaq's worth ethic, he was the most dominant force the NBA has ever seen, and if im being honest, his conditioning looked better than Luka's in his prime.

You know.. Just like it goes for Dumont, sometimes it's best if you don't say anything.

lack of defensive effort... Dude, Mavs were literally better defensive team WITH LUKA ON THE FLOOR this season. I remember vividly giving you stats, normal and advanced and you still keep talking this nonsense.

lack of leadership... When are ANT, Zion and Ja getting traded? Those bums surely showed a ton of matured leadership over the years.

[HMFFL]

I was shocked at Windhorst rant against Luka after game 3, calling him a loser outright, seems like the smear campaign kicked off back then, and it's despicable, disgusting and insulting to fans intellegence, carried by largest natiinal media outlet and team ownership and FO.

And as Luka has said, they kept firing the personnel, he became close too.

This ownership is the devil

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[41Dirk41]

Immagine trade a 25yo who carried the team to the Finals because he is fat and take back the most injury prone 32 yo softiest guy in the league.

You can't dump all that talent, if the problem really is conditioning so you have failed as a training and medical staff.

At least don't throw all this crap on Luka (who has his fault obviously). It's just pathetic.

It's just laughable try to justify that trade but joeasha reached pick of hating very high.

Apart basketball stuffs which make that trade the worst in NBA history there is the marketing around Luka to consider, he moves a lot of money inside and outside USA.

It's a lose-lose situation.

[Drygon]

In case anyone is questioning whether Dumont actually said that, here's an audio recording.

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[GermanFan120]

Is it just me who thinks Dumont looks ret@rded and has a punchable face?

[GermanFan120]

Dumont had one job to do. "Thank you Luka for everything we will miss you"

But no, he went on a rant like we're all still in school. What a piece of **** completely detached from reality. Statements like these will follow him forever. I can't believe this is actual real owner talking about it.

This was Luka in the finals and this dude compared him to Larry Bird and Shaq who both were one of the laziest when it comes to being in shape in the first place.

I have never heard anyone saying Bird is lazy.

[GermanFan120]

I'm just going to point out a couple of things:

1. I do agree with him about Luka setting bad examples (conditioning, complaining, lack of defensive effort, lack of leadership)
2. Do I believe that's why he traded him? No. I think it had more to do with money.
3. According to AD he hasn't spoken with the owners as of the end of his first home game - not sure why that is or what that says about your culture? Not even a call?

I will add this final point - when your due 70 million dollars a year (probably the most any NBA player has ever made) you better not give management any reason not to want to pay you. I think Luka (whether his stans believe it or not) gave mgmt plently of reasons not to pay him. Say what you want about Shaq's worth ethic, he was the most dominant force the NBA has ever seen, and if im being honest, his conditioning looked better than Luka's in his prime.

Thanks Nico for your input. Your friend Pelinka is awaiting you in the LAL forum at the moment.

[Archx]

Dumont had one job to do. "Thank you Luka for everything we will miss you"

But no, he went on a rant like we're all still in school. What a piece of **** completely detached from reality. Statements like these will follow him forever. I can't believe this is actual real owner talking about it.

This was Luka in the finals and this dude compared him to Larry Bird and Shaq who both were one of the laziest when it comes to being in shape in the first place.

I have never heard anyone saying Bird is lazy.

Bird was drinking a lot and had bad eating habits. His own old team mates were talking about many stories.

[joesha1698]

I'm just going to point out a couple of things:

1. I do agree with him about Luka setting bad examples (conditioning, complaining, lack of defensive effort, lack of leadership)
2. Do I believe that's why he traded him? No. I think it had more to do with money.
3. According to AD he hasn't spoken with the owners as of the end of his first home game - not sure why that is or what that says about your culture? Not even a call?

I will add this final point - when your due 70 million dollars a year (probably the most any NBA player has ever made) you better not give management any reason not to want to pay you. I think Luka (whether his stans believe it or not) gave mgmt plently of reasons not to pay him. Say what you want about Shaq's worth ethic, he was the most dominant force the NBA has ever seen, and if im being honest, his conditioning looked better than Luka's in his prime.

You know.. Just like it goes for Dumont, sometimes it's best if you don't say anything.

lack of defensive effort... Dude, Mavs were literally better defensive team WITH LUKA ON THE FLOOR this season. I remember vividly giving you stats, normal and advanced and you still keep talking this nonsense.

lack of leadership... When are ANT, Zion and Ja getting traded? Those bums surely showed a ton of matured leadership over the years.

Archx, I'm entitled to speak my mind just like you. As for Luka's defense, there are plenty of videos (on youtube made by plenty of people) with Luka pulling James Harden level of defensive effort. Blow bys, not getting back b/c of complaining, not being in the right position, and generally not giving the right amount of effort and attention to this side of the floor. He fouled out in the finals in a pivot game 3 because of his lack of defensive execution. As for stats, they tell some of the story but not all of it. I know what my eyes are seeing and how he impacts the defensive end.


As for Ant - he's a good talent, talks a lot, very positive guy aside from that. Teammates like him. Isnt known as the greatest leader but I have never heard teammates say bad things about him. Zion - is in his own category. I wouldn't even compare him to Luka. And Ja probably deserves to be on the Washington Wizards. The reality is, they both play for small media markets that have a hard time retaining star players and that's probably the only reason they haven't been traded yet.

Final note: I keep saying this - this is the best thing to happened to Luka. He needs to take his body serious. People can't have it both ways. You can't say well he was playing banged up in the finals and then make excuses when he does nothing the following year to take care of his body. He needs to work on his body more, recovery, and conditioning ala Lebron James. Whether this experience was fair to Luka or not - he needs to learn from this and get better in 3 areas:

1. Leadership - Stop complaining to refs. Stop sulking around teammates. Always compete on the defensive end...even if it means dropping 5-8ppg off your average. Your effort or defensive iq should never be questioned. Gotta inspire your teammates on both ends.

2.Conditioning - your off-season and in season regime should be top notch. Hopefully he learns from Lebron. You got all the money in the world and all the help one could need. There's no reason for a professional athlete should be missing games because of his conditioning.

3.Mindset- When you want to be the best people will look for any reason to poke at you. That's the reality. You cannot show weakness in the mind, body, or spirit. It's that simple. Luka needs to strengthen his body, humble himself, and become mentally tougher if he wants to reach his true potential.

[Bob8]

I'm just going to point out a couple of things:

1. I do agree with him about Luka setting bad examples (conditioning, complaining, lack of defensive effort, lack of leadership)
2. Do I believe that's why he traded him? No. I think it had more to do with money.
3. According to AD he hasn't spoken with the owners as of the end of his first home game - not sure why that is or what that says about your culture? Not even a call?

I will add this final point - when your due 70 million dollars a year (probably the most any NBA player has ever made) you better not give management any reason not to want to pay you. I think Luka (whether his stans believe it or not) gave mgmt plently of reasons not to pay him. Say what you want about Shaq's worth ethic, he was the most dominant force the NBA has ever seen, and if im being honest, his conditioning looked better than Luka's in his prime.

Do you understand that AD will have 63 mio in 27/28? He will probably get even bigger contract by then and be 35 years old.

[Archx]

I'm just going to point out a couple of things:

1. I do agree with him about Luka setting bad examples (conditioning, complaining, lack of defensive effort, lack of leadership)
2. Do I believe that's why he traded him? No. I think it had more to do with money.
3. According to AD he hasn't spoken with the owners as of the end of his first home game - not sure why that is or what that says about your culture? Not even a call?

I will add this final point - when your due 70 million dollars a year (probably the most any NBA player has ever made) you better not give management any reason not to want to pay you. I think Luka (whether his stans believe it or not) gave mgmt plently of reasons not to pay him. Say what you want about Shaq's worth ethic, he was the most dominant force the NBA has ever seen, and if im being honest, his conditioning looked better than Luka's in his prime.

You know.. Just like it goes for Dumont, sometimes it's best if you don't say anything.

lack of defensive effort... Dude, Mavs were literally better defensive team WITH LUKA ON THE FLOOR this season. I remember vividly giving you stats, normal and advanced and you still keep talking this nonsense.

lack of leadership... When are ANT, Zion and Ja getting traded? Those bums surely showed a ton of matured leadership over the years.

Archx, I'm entitled to speak my mind just like you. As for Luka's defense, there are plenty of videos (on youtube made by plenty of people) with Luka pulling James Harden level of defensive effort. Blow bys, not getting back b/c of complaining, not being in the right position, and generally not giving the right amount of effort and attention to this side of the floor. He fouled out in the finals in a pivot game 3 because of his lack of defensive execution. As for stats, they tell some of the story but not all of it. I know what my eyes are seeing and how he impacts the defensive end.


As for Ant - he's a good talent, talks a lot, very positive guy aside from that. Teammates like him. Isnt known as the greatest leader but I have never heard teammates say bad things about him. Zion - is in his own category. I wouldn't even compare him to Luka. And Ja probably deserves to be on the Washington Wizards. The reality is, they both play for small media markets that have a hard time retaining star players and that's probably the only reason they haven't been traded yet.

Final note: I keep saying this - this is the best thing to happened to Luka. He needs to take his body serious. People can't have it both ways. You can't say well he was playing banged up in the finals and then make excuses when he does nothing the following year to take care of his body. He needs to work on his body more, recovery, and conditioning ala Lebron James. Whether this experience was fair to Luka or not - he needs to learn from this and get better in 3 areas:

1. Leadership - Stop complaining to refs. Stop sulking around teammates. Always compete on the defensive end...even if it means dropping 5-8ppg off your average. Your effort or defensive iq should never be questioned. Gotta inspire your teammates on both ends.

2.Conditioning - your off-season and in season regime should be top notch. Hopefully he learns from Lebron. You got all the money in the world and all the help one could need. There's no reason for a professional athlete should be missing games because of his conditioning.

3.Mindset- When you want to be the best people will look for any reason to poke at you. That's the reality. You cannot show weakness in the mind, body, or spirit. It's that simple. Luka needs to strengthen his body, humble himself, and become mentally tougher if he wants to reach his true potential.

Are you aware under Luka's leadership Mavs went to the WCF twice in 3 years with Finals included? Seriously, if your answer is YES then everything you said makes no sense. If you're not aware, then i understand why you just wrote all of that.

And again, for the 100th time. Mavs role players made FOUR 3pt shots in TWO GAMES vs Celtics, Luka alone made 9. And you're going to tell people Mavs lost the series because Luka dropped game 3? If other Mavs (Kyrie included), didn't **** the bed, game 3 would also probably go completely different. Also, Mavs played best defense vs Celtics out of any team and lost because Luka was the only guy doing anything on offense.

[joesha1698]

I'm just going to point out a couple of things:

1. I do agree with him about Luka setting bad examples (conditioning, complaining, lack of defensive effort, lack of leadership)
2. Do I believe that's why he traded him? No. I think it had more to do with money.
3. According to AD he hasn't spoken with the owners as of the end of his first home game - not sure why that is or what that says about your culture? Not even a call?

I will add this final point - when your due 70 million dollars a year (probably the most any NBA player has ever made) you better not give management any reason not to want to pay you. I think Luka (whether his stans believe it or not) gave mgmt plently of reasons not to pay him. Say what you want about Shaq's worth ethic, he was the most dominant force the NBA has ever seen, and if im being honest, his conditioning looked better than Luka's in his prime.

Do you understand that AD will have 63 mio in 27/28? He will probably get even bigger contract by then and be 35 years old.

I understand that. I can only speculate based on what's being said.
1. Luka didn't meet the owner's philosophy
2. He didnt want to pay Luka.
3. The Gambling tank theory

If I had to guess right now I lean towards the money but you make a good point. Maybe it was the philosophy because he is paying AD. I still hold space for the gambling theory because it depends on what happens in the future.

[joesha1698]

You know.. Just like it goes for Dumont, sometimes it's best if you don't say anything.

lack of defensive effort... Dude, Mavs were literally better defensive team WITH LUKA ON THE FLOOR this season. I remember vividly giving you stats, normal and advanced and you still keep talking this nonsense.

lack of leadership... When are ANT, Zion and Ja getting traded? Those bums surely showed a ton of matured leadership over the years.

Archx, I'm entitled to speak my mind just like you. As for Luka's defense, there are plenty of videos (on youtube made by plenty of people) with Luka pulling James Harden level of defensive effort. Blow bys, not getting back b/c of complaining, not being in the right position, and generally not giving the right amount of effort and attention to this side of the floor. He fouled out in the finals in a pivot game 3 because of his lack of defensive execution. As for stats, they tell some of the story but not all of it. I know what my eyes are seeing and how he impacts the defensive end.


As for Ant - he's a good talent, talks a lot, very positive guy aside from that. Teammates like him. Isnt known as the greatest leader but I have never heard teammates say bad things about him. Zion - is in his own category. I wouldn't even compare him to Luka. And Ja probably deserves to be on the Washington Wizards. The reality is, they both play for small media markets that have a hard time retaining star players and that's probably the only reason they haven't been traded yet.

Final note: I keep saying this - this is the best thing to happened to Luka. He needs to take his body serious. People can't have it both ways. You can't say well he was playing banged up in the finals and then make excuses when he does nothing the following year to take care of his body. He needs to work on his body more, recovery, and conditioning ala Lebron James. Whether this experience was fair to Luka or not - he needs to learn from this and get better in 3 areas:



1. Leadership - Stop complaining to refs. Stop sulking around teammates. Always compete on the defensive end...even if it means dropping 5-8ppg off your average. Your effort or defensive iq should never be questioned. Gotta inspire your teammates on both ends.

2.Conditioning - your off-season and in season regime should be top notch. Hopefully he learns from Lebron. You got all the money in the world and all the help one could need. There's no reason for a professional athlete should be missing games because of his conditioning.

3.Mindset- When you want to be the best people will look for any reason to poke at you. That's the reality. You cannot show weakness in the mind, body, or spirit. It's that simple. Luka needs to strengthen his body, humble himself, and become mentally tougher if he wants to reach his true potential.

Are you aware under Luka's leadership Mavs went to the WCF twice in 3 years with Finals included? Seriously, if your answer is YES then everything you said makes no sense. If you're not aware, then i understand why you just wrote all of that.

And again, for the 100th time. Mavs role players made FOUR 3pt shots in TWO GAMES vs Celtics, Luka alone made 9. And you're going to tell people Mavs lost the series because Luka dropped game 3? If other Mavs (Kyrie included), didn't **** the bed, game 3 would also probably go completely different. Also, Mavs played best defense vs Celtics out of any team and lost because Luka was the only guy doing anything on offense.

I never said Luka wasn't a good player. He needs to improve his leadership is what I said. Luka didn't take those teams to the WCF by himself. He had Jalen and Kyrie and a big trade that brought in PJ and Gafford or we do not make it to the WCF or finals again. I know we had subpar role players on the offensive end. Kyrie played better than Luka in game 3 so not sure what you mean by crap the bed. Plus, I already explained that Luka's style of play isnt good for Kyrie because it slows the game down in the half court where your 6'2.5 inch guard is expecting to operate in less space. Kyrie wasn't playing to his strong suit with Luka. He was deferring to Luka's style and making it work. He doesn't have the size or youth anymore to be as effective when he's expected to take turns scoring like Luka who has the size at 6'6 to score easier in the half court. I talked about that last year...Kyrie should be moving off the ball against good defensive teams (ala Rip Hamilton, jason terry, allen iverson) at this point in his career. Their constantly putting their best perimeter defender on him and you have a 6'2.5 guy vs 6'7 or 6'8 guy. That's not a fair matchup no matter how good Kyrie is 1on1. He needs to move w/o the ball and get some easy ones before just using his 1on1 ability.

Mavs didn't lose because Luka was the only guy doing anything on offense. They lost because Boston had the defenders to switch everything on Luka and turn him into a one on one scorer. Luka had 1 assist in game 1 of the finals. They basically counter his ball dominant style of play, harassed him up the court every play, and limited him to one shot. It didnt help that our role players were inconsistent from 3. But we built our bed with this style of play until we ran into a team that could counter it. The reality is, we lived by Luka and died by Luka. When Luka is playing lesser talented defenses - he's able to manipulate and get open 3s for his teammates and easy lobs. He wasn't able to do that versus Boston and his averages in the finals (if i remember correctly ) were pretty close to his reg season avgs. He shot like 25% from the 3. So, the reality is Luka did what he normally does. He didnt raise his game to another level. Boston just exposed his style of play and how un-prepared eveyrone around Luka is when you force him to play one on one and he's not spoon-feeding them. Luka didnt have 1 commanding game the whole series where he was clearly the best player on the floor. That's without even touching on the defensive end where they treated him like a traffic cone at times.

As for Kyrie - he had two good games in the Finals 3 and 4. If Luka doesnt foul out, they may win game 3 and go back to Boston 2-2. Game 5 (if were being honest was a wash but still a bad game by Kyrie) but I'll give Kyrie a little grace because he's 6'2.5 inches tall and is 7 years older than Luka and is being asked to score at a similar efficient rate in the half court versus one of the best defensive teams 1-5 in the last couple of years. And J.Kidd made no attempt to play Kyrie off the ball (which would have helped him and the whole offense..including Luka). So, did Kyrie had 3 bad games, yes. However, playing to Luka's strengths and coaching did him no favors. I hope Kidd has learned his lesson if they make it back and see Boston again or any very talented defensive club. Kyrie has to pick his spots in the open court, be on the move in the half court, and attack defenders his size when he's being guarded by someone of similar height.