Mavericks ( Patrick Dumont) owner craps on Lukas work ethic

[og15]

The owner also looks overweight. Talking about hard working and this dude looks like a pudgy bastard himself

Well, you can be hard working in your job and a little overweight. Luka's job does have fitness being a direct effect on it and it is part of the job. I wouldn't necessarily go this route on this one

It would be like us saying some of the overweight coaches can't crap on their players work ethic because of their own weight.

[dirkdiggler4177]

Larry Bird once ate 7 wedding cakes in two weeks while he was injured. This SIL doesn't know his NBA history at all, and he only owns a team because he married a rich person's daughter. The dude should just shut up hole and let Mavs fans process this.

Didn't Bird smoke cigarettes and drink a bunch of beer during his days?

Bird was also known to be the first and last guy out of the gym. Back in those days, people did coke in the NBA. It was a different time.

[dirkdiggler4177]

Wow, has any star ever got so much undeserved distespect from his (former) team?

Fans: Omg, why did they trade him?

Mavs: He did not have a work ethic, did not play defense, was overweight and was always injured

Fans: Omg, why are you so disrespectful?

[dockingsched]

Nico said that when he first brought up the idea of trading Luka, I believe in early January, ownership laughed at it.

Id want the owner to confirm if that’s true, and if so what changed from that moment to now where they’re now convinced Luka never had and never will have the mindset or approach to lead them.

Seems too sudden. I’m convinced it’s about their projected payroll with Luka and owners preferring to minimizing risk to ensure profit, with title chances as a secondary less important variable.

[floppymoose]

If you look at the greats in the league, the people you and I grew up with — Jordan, Bird, Kobe, Shaq — they worked really hard, every day, with a singular focus to win. And if you don’t have that, it doesn’t work … you shouldn’t be part of the Dallas Mavericks.”




https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/mavericks/2025/02/09/mavericks-governor-patrick-dumont-makes-first-public-comments-after-luka-doncic-trade/?outputType=amp

Yeah, the inclusion of Shaq there just continues to make the new Mavs ownership look like tourists parroting stuff other people told them.

But it doesnt make them wrong. They can be ignorant about Shaq, and still be parroting someone who is right.

Time will see how this plays out. I think Mavs dodged a huge bullet. I realize thats a minority view right now.

[Mavrelous]

Wow, has any star ever got so much undeserved distespect from his (former) team?

Fans: Omg, why did they trade him?

Mavs: He did not have a work ethic, did not play defense, was overweight and was always injured

Fans: Omg, why are you so disrespectful?

Why is Kyrie on the team then? He's not always injured? He missed 24 games last year, Dumont mentions his frustrations with the record pre-deadline, Kyrie and Lively injureis were the primary reasons for that record, why are they still on the team?
Kyrie's defense is better? And why is AD the target? He tanked Lakers 21 and 22 seasons with his injuries, he also publicly demanded a trade from his the franchise that drafted him, where does this fit in Dumont's and Nico's vision of culture.
Offensive carrying stars being hidden on defense and saving effort is a very old concept wasn't invented by the Mavs or by Luka, Players are judged by results, and Luka's results in his 1st 6 years have been stellar with less than optimal rosters, the rosters were less than optimal largely because of Nico's decisions.

If ownership and FO don't want to share the real reasons, then don't, if they share vile and idiotic reasons, then people will rightly criticize it, some of us don't like to be gaslit, some seems totally fine with it, and no the lip service at the start of the article doesn't cancel the incoherence that follows it.

[Archx]

Larry Bird once ate 7 wedding cakes in two weeks while he was injured. This SIL doesn't know his NBA history at all, and he only owns a team because he married a rich person's daughter. The dude should just shut up hole and let Mavs fans process this.

Didn't Bird smoke cigarettes and drink a bunch of beer during his days?

Bird was also known to be the first and last guy out of the gym. Back in those days, people did coke in the NBA. It was a different time.

And Luka operates purely on talent? Never picks up the ball unless its game time? Never does any weight lifting, etc.. That lean body just comes natural? He was in his best shape last season since bubble, and this year Nico fired his personal trainer, for what?

Also.. does this look like a guy who is slow in bad shape and doesn't play any defense? Are you really so naive to just believe anything Nico and Dumont say?

[EastonEddy]

Wow, has any star ever got so much undeserved distespect from his (former) team?

Fans: Omg, why did they trade him?

Mavs: He did not have a work ethic, did not play defense, was overweight and was always injured

Fans: Omg, why are you so disrespectful?

I get the ownership and GM are being defensive since they have been absolutely blasted in the media. However, I have never seen a team talk so much s*** after trading away a franchise cornerstone who took the team to finals and give everything he had, on court at least, to the team.

It's pretty damn classless and I guarantee other NBA players/prospects are watching this debacle. They should have vaguely mentioned fit and defense and left it there.

[namlede]

Another possibility is that Luka is an alcoholic and refused to get help.

[dirkdiggler4177]

Wow, has any star ever got so much undeserved distespect from his (former) team?

Fans: Omg, why did they trade him?

Mavs: He did not have a work ethic, did not play defense, was overweight and was always injured

Fans: Omg, why are you so disrespectful?

Why is Kyrie on the team then? He's not always injured? He missed 24 games last year, Dumont mentions his frustrations with the record pre-deadline, Kyrie and Lively injureis were the primary reasons for that record, why are they still on the team?
Kyrie's defense is better? And why is AD the target? He tanked Lakers 21 and 22 seasons with his injuries, he also publicly demanded a trade from his the franchise that drafted him, where does this fit in Dumont's and Nico's vision of culture.
Offensive carrying stars being hidden on defense and saving effort is a very old concept wasn't invented by the Mavs or by Luka, Players are judged by results, and Luka's results in his 1st 6 years have been stellar with less than optimal rosters, the rosters were less than optimal largely because of Nico's decisions.

If ownership and FO don't want to share the real reasons, then don't, if they share vile and idiotic reasons, then people will rightly criticize it, some of us don't like to be gaslit, some seems totally fine with it, and no the lip service at the start of the article doesn't cancel the incoherence that follows it.

Just to make sure, I'm not for the trade, but did you watch the Celtics and Rockets game? The team played its best defense this season. Against the Rockets especially, they were all fired up and played excellently. Pushing the ball, moving the ball, Thompson actually moved around and got open shots and they set a team record in blocked shots. I think if the team loved Luka as much as we fans do there would be a different vibe to this team, but they had so much fun out there. I don't think I have seen Thompson this happy with the Mavs before. It might be that they want to prove themself, but I don't know. I think they were tired of defense like this and Luka not giving it all.

Again, I'm not for trade

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edit. Wrong video

[nbaguy1]

"Im not running. I make the ball run"-Johan Cruyff. Many such players. Its top skill that can get away with that and when you can, it ads a whole other layer to what a team can do. These corpo guys are morons, evil, or both

[RoyceDa59]

Spoiler:

He’s not wrong.

I love Luka and his raw talent is insane. I hope he dominates for another decade+ .

But his habits will catch up to him really fast if he doesn’t change his entire mindset asap.

I’d hate to see him oft-injured, slow, and a shell of his prime self by [emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]. There’s no going back to eliminate those nagging injuries that pile up in your [emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]’s if you don’t take training seriously.

Hoping he completely changes his tune in LA and gets on a strict training regiment with LeBron’s team.

Bro stop posting these walls of emojis. Another mod just talked to you about it the other day. It's weird. -b

[dirkdiggler4177]

Another possibility is that Luka is an alcoholic and refused to get help.

[DaPessimist]

Business is about results. Maybe if Luka wasn't already delivering results this argument would make sense.

[Mavrelous]

Just to make sure, I'm not for the trade, but did you watch the Celtics and Rockets game? The team played its best defense this season. Against the Rockets especially, they were all fired up and played excellently. Pushing the ball, moving the ball, Thompson actually moved around and got open shots and they set a team record in blocked shots. I think if the team loved Luka as much as we fans do there would be a different vibe to this team, but they had so much fun out there. I don't think I have seen Thompson this happy with the Mavs before. It might be that they want to prove themself, but I don't know. I think they were tired of defense like this and Luka not giving it all.

Again, I'm not for trade

Watch on YouTube

The trade will be judged in the long run, not the Rockets game against a depleted team that couldn't hit a shot and lost 6 in a row.
Luka has defensive lapses, but he is judhed by his overall impact, and the team is elite defensively with him on the floor and he repays you with offense, without him this team doesn't make the PO, and the team never cracked .5 record in games he missed.
For or against the trade isn't the discussion here but owners comments, and his comments don't fit the reality, and do a dissetvice to an icon who served the team above and beyond.

[leolozon]

Larry Bird once ate 7 wedding cakes in two weeks while he was injured. This SIL doesn't know his NBA history at all, and he only owns a team because he married a rich person's daughter. The dude should just shut up hole and let Mavs fans process this.

Didn't Bird smoke cigarettes and drink a bunch of beer during his days?

Bird was also known to be the first and last guy out of the gym. Back in those days, people did coke in the NBA. It was a different time.

Luka looks to be a lot in the gym. The problem is him having bad eating and probably drinking habits.

[damanick10]

Its not fair to the die hard Mavs fans that the ownership and FO are a bunch of clowns that have ruined the franchise. Sorry guys....

[Damkac]

Wow, has any star ever got so much undeserved distespect from his (former) team?

Most teams do this actually.

Any examples? I don't remember any team s-itting so much on their former player, even on ones who demanded a trade.

Wow, has any star ever got so much undeserved distespect from his (former) team?

Fans: Omg, why did they trade him?

Mavs: He did not have a work ethic, did not play defense, was overweight and was always injured

Fans: Omg, why are you so disrespectful?

I get it, you are Mavs fan. But how can you defend Mavs FO after what they did?
Luka has no work ethic? And somehow he lead his team to the finals while puting video game like numbers? So what would happen if he started working hard? Would he average 100 points a game?

[dirkdiggler4177]

Larry Bird once ate 7 wedding cakes in two weeks while he was injured. This SIL doesn't know his NBA history at all, and he only owns a team because he married a rich person's daughter. The dude should just shut up hole and let Mavs fans process this.

Didn't Bird smoke cigarettes and drink a bunch of beer during his days?

Bird was also known to be the first and last guy out of the gym. Back in those days, people did coke in the NBA. It was a different time.

Luka looks to be a lot in the gym. The problem is him having bad eating and probably drinking habits.

Yeah, I agree with that. Like you don't become Luka without being in the gym. But you never heard anyone ever talk about his work ethic. Like when Kidd joined the Mavs, the first thing he talked about was Dirk work habits. You have the same with Curry who was a bad and light defender, but he worked himself into being decent. Same with Jokic and him being fat. He worked himself out of it and is clearly a student of the game. I think that is what they saw, he just did not push himself.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Dirk didn't get serious about his diet and routine until he turned 27.

Luka is only 25. His brain hasn't even fully matured yet, who knows.


Should have given him time to mature more. In the meantime, guy is all NBA 1st team, 5 times in a row, will be a future HOFer, possibly the GOAT Mav, took you to the Finals...

think this Dumont guy is not a good leader.