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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#361 » by KrazyP » Sun Feb 9, 2025 11:24 pm

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mtcan wrote:Yup...I saw that on the broadcast as well.

Twice...yes...twice did BI shout out Jak since arriving in Toronto. I think the BI/Jak bromance about to happen.

And y'all wanted Jak traded...he is the reason why guys want to come to Toronto!!!

Apologize to Jakob!!!


Yeah it's almost like Yak is more valued around the league by NBA players, more so than on realgm...that can't mean anything.

Honestly hard to believe that a bunch average nobodies on an internet message board that can't play or manage for **** think they know better than people who have been playing for their entire lives or executives that dedicate all their time and energy to knowing basketball.


Everybody loves to talk about the the spacing a 3pt shooting C can bring to a team but there’s never much talk about how much scorers like Ingram, Barrett, Dick, etc can benefit from a high IQ C like Yak that can pass, screen and finish.

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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#362 » by Scase » Sun Feb 9, 2025 11:35 pm

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Westside Gunn wrote:Is his game different from Rudy Gay? While Rudy was that guy we needed at the 3, I don't want Ingram to be one of those high volume shots players that look good on the stat sheet, but really shoot teams out of games.

I haven't watched much of him

It physically pained Rudy Gay to pass the ball, dude was a black hole on offense. Ingram is a facilitator but also deadly scorer one on one in the midrange. Ingram has a high basketball IQ and plays the game the right way.

BI is also a hell of a lot more efficient than Rudy ever was.
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Post#363 » by Blazing_royale » Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:09 am

Man i'm so excited for BI. We haven't had a legit first option since Kawhi.
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Post#364 » by Tripod » Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:10 am

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How about Sleepy Willow - a nod to his sleepy eye look and his thin frame.

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Post#365 » by Los_29 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:21 am

Blazing_royale wrote:Man i'm so excited for BI. We haven't had a legit first option since Kawhi.


What makes BI a better option than Pascal?
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Post#366 » by Thaddy » Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:36 am

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Blazing_royale wrote:Man i'm so excited for BI. We haven't had a legit first option since Kawhi.


What makes BI a better option than Pascal?

He's a better shooter than Siakam. Siakam's having a good shooting year this year but in their careers BIs been better.

Siakam also has Hali setting him up. IQ and Barnes should be good in a similar way for BI. We will probably also see him taking even more 3s.

I would guess we look to see who our top 2 options are. Then we trade the redundant piece for more defense. I'm predicting it'll be Barrett for a 3+D forward.
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Post#367 » by Godaddycurse » Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:36 am

Los_29 wrote:
Blazing_royale wrote:Man i'm so excited for BI. We haven't had a legit first option since Kawhi.


What makes BI a better option than Pascal?


hopefully he can close out a game better. Pascal was great at many things but closing games out (IIRC) wasn't one of them
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#368 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Mon Feb 10, 2025 12:48 am

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Blazing_royale wrote:Man i'm so excited for BI. We haven't had a legit first option since Kawhi.


What makes BI a better option than Pascal?

i wouldn't call BI a classic franchise player or first option but he's a better shooter and passer than Pascal. RJ, IQ and Barnes are all better suited to be secondary players than creators. he can do a great job facilitating and scoring for this team.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#369 » by Scase » Mon Feb 10, 2025 1:49 am

Blazing_royale wrote:Man i'm so excited for BI. We haven't had a legit first option since Kawhi.

Well I've got some bad news for you.
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Post#370 » by Los_29 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 1:56 am

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Los_29 wrote:
Blazing_royale wrote:Man i'm so excited for BI. We haven't had a legit first option since Kawhi.


What makes BI a better option than Pascal?

He's a better shooter than Siakam. Siakam's having a good shooting year this year but in their careers BIs been better.

Siakam also has Hali setting him up. IQ and Barnes should be good in a similar way for BI. We will probably also see him taking even more 3s.

I would guess we look to see who our top 2 options are. Then we trade the redundant piece for more defense. I'm predicting it'll be Barrett for a 3+D forward.


If Ingram is a legit first option then so is Pascal. The reality is both aren’t. But they are both great players.
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Post#371 » by Thaddy » Mon Feb 10, 2025 2:05 am

Los_29 wrote:
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Los_29 wrote:
What makes BI a better option than Pascal?

He's a better shooter than Siakam. Siakam's having a good shooting year this year but in their careers BIs been better.

Siakam also has Hali setting him up. IQ and Barnes should be good in a similar way for BI. We will probably also see him taking even more 3s.

I would guess we look to see who our top 2 options are. Then we trade the redundant piece for more defense. I'm predicting it'll be Barrett for a 3+D forward.


If Ingram is a legit first option then so is Pascal. The reality is both aren’t. But they are both great players.

Ingram is better at creating for teammates with his gravity and for himself.

https://craftednba.com/players/brandon-ingram

https://craftednba.com/players/pascal-siakam

Siakam's stats also look better since he's been playing next to Haliburton instead of CJ McCallum
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Post#372 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Feb 10, 2025 2:19 am

Watching clips of Ingram prior injuries and man this guy just has bad luck. Just a bunch of freak injuries, unlike AD who sustains a lot of non-contact injuries or gets hurt with minimal contact.
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Post#373 » by AussieRules » Mon Feb 10, 2025 2:20 am

Los_29 wrote:
Blazing_royale wrote:Man i'm so excited for BI. We haven't had a legit first option since Kawhi.


What makes BI a better option than Pascal?


Because Pascal is not a legit shot creator especially for himself. He scores better off a primary scorer. BI is 99th percentile as an isolation scorer, who’s also a better 3pt shooter and floor spacer.
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Post#374 » by AussieRules » Mon Feb 10, 2025 2:27 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:Watching clips of Ingram prior injuries and man this guy just has bad luck. Just a bunch of freak injuries, unlike AD who sustains a lot of non-contact injuries or gets hurt with minimal contact.


The refs allowed Lu Dort to purposely injure BI. It’s gonna take me a while to forgive the nba for that. Speaking of bad luck, his teammate Naji Marshall also put him concussion protocol during a game early in the season when BI was putting the Jazz on a grill. He also had blood clot issues in the last year on the lakers after Indiana kept chanting “ LeBron’s gonna trade you” every time he went to the freethrow line, he didn’t miss a single freethrow in that game on the road. That boy is tuff!

Hopefully the raptors medical staff can work their wonders on BI like they did with Kawhi.
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Post#375 » by Blazing_royale » Mon Feb 10, 2025 2:32 am

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Blazing_royale wrote:Man i'm so excited for BI. We haven't had a legit first option since Kawhi.

Well I've got some bad news for you.


I should have re-worded it. A legit option on Offence. Someone that can create and facilitate. We were never going to get someone close to BI talent on the offense through trade (without giving up something significant), free market and if we're ever lucky draft one.
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Post#376 » by Nebuchadnezzar » Mon Feb 10, 2025 3:45 am

Los_29 wrote:
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What makes BI a better option than Pascal?

He's a better shooter than Siakam. Siakam's having a good shooting year this year but in their careers BIs been better.

Siakam also has Hali setting him up. IQ and Barnes should be good in a similar way for BI. We will probably also see him taking even more 3s.

I would guess we look to see who our top 2 options are. Then we trade the redundant piece for more defense. I'm predicting it'll be Barrett for a 3+D forward.


If Ingram is a legit first option then so is Pascal. The reality is both aren’t. But they are both great players.


BI hasn't had the chance to reach his scoring ceiling because he has had to be the main facilitator in the offence the past three years since Lonzo Ball departed after the 20-21 season and CJ Mac became the "point guard".

That means BI hasn't been freed up to focus on his own offence since he was 23 (was an all star at 22).....

Turn those possessions where he was creating assists into one's where he is looking to score....he'll put up 27-29ppg
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Post#377 » by Thaddy » Mon Feb 10, 2025 3:49 am

Nebuchadnezzar wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Thaddy wrote:He's a better shooter than Siakam. Siakam's having a good shooting year this year but in their careers BIs been better.

Siakam also has Hali setting him up. IQ and Barnes should be good in a similar way for BI. We will probably also see him taking even more 3s.

I would guess we look to see who our top 2 options are. Then we trade the redundant piece for more defense. I'm predicting it'll be Barrett for a 3+D forward.


If Ingram is a legit first option then so is Pascal. The reality is both aren’t. But they are both great players.


BI hasn't had the chance to reach his scoring ceiling because he has had to be the main facilitator in the offence the past three years since Lonzo Ball departed after the 20-21 season and CJ Mac became the "point guard".

That means BI hasn't been freed up to focus on his own offence since he was 23 (was an all star at 22).....

Turn those possessions where he was creating assists into one's where he is looking to score....he'll put up 27-29ppg

I analyzed some game tape during my dead night shift and you are absolutely right. He's going to move away from the passing role he was thrown into and focus on scoring. He should be around an efficient 25+ a game for us which would be well worth his 45M AAV. The rest will fall on Barnes to become an adequate shooter and secondary scorer.
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Post#378 » by RoteSchroder » Mon Feb 10, 2025 4:11 am

out of this year's top 5 (Cooper, Ace, Harper, Kasp, Edgecombe), anyone have any predictions as to which one of these players will end up better than a healthy Ingram?

I think they all got a chance, but at the same time it's very possible that Ingram ends up as the #2/3 best player among these 5.
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Post#379 » by Pointgod » Mon Feb 10, 2025 4:30 am

RoteSchroder wrote:out of this year's top 5 (Cooper, Ace, Harper, Kasp, Edgecombe), anyone have any predictions as to which one of these players will end up better than a healthy Ingram?

I think they all got a chance, but at the same time it's very possible that Ingram ends up as the #2/3 best player among these 5.


Cooper, Ace and Harper all project to have higher ceilings than a healthy Ingram. The guy has been in the NBA for 9 seasons he’s not going turn into Jayson Tatum next season, but being the best version of Brandon Ingram is still good.
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Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#380 » by youngRAPZ » Mon Feb 10, 2025 4:55 am

Pointgod wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:out of this year's top 5 (Cooper, Ace, Harper, Kasp, Edgecombe), anyone have any predictions as to which one of these players will end up better than a healthy Ingram?

I think they all got a chance, but at the same time it's very possible that Ingram ends up as the #2/3 best player among these 5.


Cooper, Ace and Harper all project to have higher ceilings than a healthy Ingram. The guy has been in the NBA for 9 seasons he’s not going turn into Jayson Tatum next season, but being the best version of Brandon Ingram is still good.

I’d argue ace is floor Rashard Lewis and Ceiling slightly better Ingram if he can stay healthy if not he will top out as Ingram. Flagg should be better no doubt but Harper I’m not sure what I think about him yet

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