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Post#1641 » by Chanel Bomber » Sun Feb 9, 2025 1:55 pm

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Chanel Bomber wrote:Not convinced at all by the Fox acquisition for Spurs. I don't think he moves the needle for them tbh.

Is he even better than Lavine? I tend to think they'd have been better off with Lavine while keeping some of their extra picks for a bigger trade down the road.




They're better, but that team is still a work in progress, also them starting CP3 over Castle makes no sense at all. LaMelo was killing them in the first half in large part because CP3 was starting, they went with Castle on him in the 2nd half, he quieted it all down and held him to 2-11 for the 2nd half. If I were building that team, I'd zig while everyone is expecting me to zag, I'd try my next target in FA/tade would be Jaren Jackson, putting him and Wemby together as a frontcourt would be lethal since Jaren is mobile enough to guard wing 4s, and he's too big for them to defend.


I don't see how LaVine grows with that team much, Zach turns 30 next month, Fox won't be 28 till December. Also, they gave up virtually nothing to get him, only 1 pick was good and that's the Minnesota 2031, Bulls pick wasn't going to convey, the Hornets pick is going to be 2 seconds, and the Spurs pick is 2027 which will be junk if Victor is healthy. They still have the Hawks picks, almost all their own picks and the Mavs 2030 pick.

I agree the trade wasn't destructive but I don't think it will help them reach a much higher level.

I don't expect Fox to make Wemby better or make life particularly easier for him. His skill set is not one that is most compatible let alone symbiotic with other high-usage players. One certainty however is that he'll be on the books for a significant chunk of their cap after his extension.

Lavine's two years older but he's a far better shooter and slasher than Fox imo, and I think his profile would've been more conducive to helping Wemby expand his repertoire.

The Minnesota and SA picks could've helped them land a bigger fish down the line. They have more than enough assets still, I agree, but I think patience would've been better here. We'll see, maybe he'll prove me wrong, but Fox to me is PG Randle really.

JJJ is a beast who'd elevate any team he's on. One of the most underrated players in the NBA. Him and Wemby would be insane.
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Post#1642 » by Reign23 » Sun Feb 9, 2025 2:24 pm

lol Mavs won the trade and can win the title this year :lol: some takes are just....
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Post#1643 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Feb 9, 2025 2:34 pm

Reign23 wrote:lol Mavs won the trade and can win the title this year :lol: some takes are just....

Not a single person said the Mavs won the trade :lol:
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Post#1644 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Feb 9, 2025 2:44 pm

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Chanel Bomber wrote:Not convinced at all by the Fox acquisition for Spurs. I don't think he moves the needle for them tbh.

Is he even better than Lavine? I tend to think they'd have been better off with Lavine while keeping some of their extra picks for a bigger trade down the road.




They're better, but that team is still a work in progress, also them starting CP3 over Castle makes no sense at all. LaMelo was killing them in the first half in large part because CP3 was starting, they went with Castle on him in the 2nd half, he quieted it all down and held him to 2-11 for the 2nd half. If I were building that team, I'd zig while everyone is expecting me to zag, I'd try my next target in FA/tade would be Jaren Jackson, putting him and Wemby together as a frontcourt would be lethal since Jaren is mobile enough to guard wing 4s, and he's too big for them to defend.


I don't see how LaVine grows with that team much, Zach turns 30 next month, Fox won't be 28 till December. Also, they gave up virtually nothing to get him, only 1 pick was good and that's the Minnesota 2031, Bulls pick wasn't going to convey, the Hornets pick is going to be 2 seconds, and the Spurs pick is 2027 which will be junk if Victor is healthy. They still have the Hawks picks, almost all their own picks and the Mavs 2030 pick.

I agree the trade wasn't destructive but I don't think it will help them reach a much higher level.

I don't expect Fox to make Wemby better or make life particularly easier for him. His skill set is not one that is most compatible let alone symbiotic with other high-usage players. One certainty however is that he'll be on the books for a significant chunk of their cap after his extension.

Lavine's two years older but he's a far better shooter and slasher than Fox imo, and I think his profile would've been more conducive to helping Wemby expand his repertoire.

The Minnesota and SA picks could've helped them land a bigger fish down the line. They have more than enough assets still, I agree, but I think patience would've been better here. We'll see, maybe he'll prove me wrong, but Fox to me is PG Randle really.

JJJ is a beast who'd elevate any team he's on. One of the most underrated players in the NBA. Him and Wemby would be insane.

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Post#1646 » by Wildcat » Sun Feb 9, 2025 5:02 pm

Montmorencie wrote:Kudos to AD for making debut about Shengun and the high seeded Rockets. Unlike Luka and Jimmy, he didn't wait for plumbers in the schedule to make an appearance


I'm certainly not a Jimmy fan, but literally the first game he could play was Saturday's game. He was traded the day they had a game. No one plays on the same day a trade goes down.

I can't speak for Luka, though. I don't remember when he was suppose to come back from injury. While with Dallas, I'm not sure if he was scheduled to come back before or after the trade.
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Post#1647 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sun Feb 9, 2025 7:23 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
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Chanel Bomber wrote:Not convinced at all by the Fox acquisition for Spurs. I don't think he moves the needle for them tbh.

Is he even better than Lavine? I tend to think they'd have been better off with Lavine while keeping some of their extra picks for a bigger trade down the road.




They're better, but that team is still a work in progress, also them starting CP3 over Castle makes no sense at all. LaMelo was killing them in the first half in large part because CP3 was starting, they went with Castle on him in the 2nd half, he quieted it all down and held him to 2-11 for the 2nd half. If I were building that team, I'd zig while everyone is expecting me to zag, I'd try my next target in FA/tade would be Jaren Jackson, putting him and Wemby together as a frontcourt would be lethal since Jaren is mobile enough to guard wing 4s, and he's too big for them to defend.


I don't see how LaVine grows with that team much, Zach turns 30 next month, Fox won't be 28 till December. Also, they gave up virtually nothing to get him, only 1 pick was good and that's the Minnesota 2031, Bulls pick wasn't going to convey, the Hornets pick is going to be 2 seconds, and the Spurs pick is 2027 which will be junk if Victor is healthy. They still have the Hawks picks, almost all their own picks and the Mavs 2030 pick.

I agree the trade wasn't destructive but I don't think it will help them reach a much higher level.

I don't expect Fox to make Wemby better or make life particularly easier for him. His skill set is not one that is most compatible let alone symbiotic with other high-usage players. One certainty however is that he'll be on the books for a significant chunk of their cap after his extension.

Lavine's two years older but he's a far better shooter and slasher than Fox imo, and I think his profile would've been more conducive to helping Wemby expand his repertoire.

The Minnesota and SA picks could've helped them land a bigger fish down the line. They have more than enough assets still, I agree, but I think patience would've been better here. We'll see, maybe he'll prove me wrong, but Fox to me is PG Randle really.

JJJ is a beast who'd elevate any team he's on. One of the most underrated players in the NBA. Him and Wemby would be insane.



I think he'll make Wemby's life easier just by being a capable scorer, and I think because he's not a true PG it will eventually mean Wemby has the ball more as an offensive engine, like Sabonis. I don't like what I've seen from Wemby playing off CP3, he's much more inclined to be a jumpshooter & finisher playing off someone that can set him up. I feel like he was creating more for others last season than he is this year.

Long term you want Wemby to start creating offense and being a hub passer, I know Fox can play off someone doing that role, I don't know if LaVine can do that. I look at it like this, the best bigs in the NBA don't need superstar teammates, it's a luxury if they have one, but Jokic won with Murray and Giannis won with Middleton.

The position they're in with the Hawks picks, and almost all of their own picks this was a no brainer move to me. If you run the tankathon right now, they're ending up with the top pick like a 1/3 of the time because they currently have 2 top 10 picks. All of this is moot if they somehow end up getting Flagg too, which is in play :lol:
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Post#1649 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Feb 9, 2025 7:28 pm

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They're better, but that team is still a work in progress, also them starting CP3 over Castle makes no sense at all. LaMelo was killing them in the first half in large part because CP3 was starting, they went with Castle on him in the 2nd half, he quieted it all down and held him to 2-11 for the 2nd half. If I were building that team, I'd zig while everyone is expecting me to zag, I'd try my next target in FA/tade would be Jaren Jackson, putting him and Wemby together as a frontcourt would be lethal since Jaren is mobile enough to guard wing 4s, and he's too big for them to defend.


I don't see how LaVine grows with that team much, Zach turns 30 next month, Fox won't be 28 till December. Also, they gave up virtually nothing to get him, only 1 pick was good and that's the Minnesota 2031, Bulls pick wasn't going to convey, the Hornets pick is going to be 2 seconds, and the Spurs pick is 2027 which will be junk if Victor is healthy. They still have the Hawks picks, almost all their own picks and the Mavs 2030 pick.

I agree the trade wasn't destructive but I don't think it will help them reach a much higher level.

I don't expect Fox to make Wemby better or make life particularly easier for him. His skill set is not one that is most compatible let alone symbiotic with other high-usage players. One certainty however is that he'll be on the books for a significant chunk of their cap after his extension.

Lavine's two years older but he's a far better shooter and slasher than Fox imo, and I think his profile would've been more conducive to helping Wemby expand his repertoire.

The Minnesota and SA picks could've helped them land a bigger fish down the line. They have more than enough assets still, I agree, but I think patience would've been better here. We'll see, maybe he'll prove me wrong, but Fox to me is PG Randle really.

JJJ is a beast who'd elevate any team he's on. One of the most underrated players in the NBA. Him and Wemby would be insane.



I think he'll make Wemby's life easier just by being a capable scorer, and I think because he's not a true PG it will eventually mean Wemby has the ball more as an offensive engine, like Sabonis. I don't like what I've seen from Wemby playing off CP3, he's much more inclined to be a jumpshooter & finisher playing off someone that can set him up. I feel like he was creating more for others last season than he is this year.

Long term you want Wemby to start creating offense and being a hub passer, I know Fox can play off someone doing that role, I don't know if LaVine can do that. I look at it like this, the best bigs in the NBA don't need superstar teammates, it's a luxury if they have one, but Jokic won with Murray and Giannis won with Middleton.

The position they're in with the Hawks picks, and almost all of their own picks this was a no brainer move to me. If you run the tankathon right now, they're ending up with the top pick like a 1/3 of the time because they currently have 2 top 10 picks. All of this is moot if they somehow end up getting Flagg too, which is in play :lol:

If they do what Dallas should have done with Luka and extend him, they can trade him on a new contract with assets for an upgrade like Ball or Trae Young (if you consider either to be an upgrade)
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Post#1653 » by Capn'O » Sun Feb 9, 2025 9:40 pm

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Chanel Bomber wrote:
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They're better, but that team is still a work in progress, also them starting CP3 over Castle makes no sense at all. LaMelo was killing them in the first half in large part because CP3 was starting, they went with Castle on him in the 2nd half, he quieted it all down and held him to 2-11 for the 2nd half. If I were building that team, I'd zig while everyone is expecting me to zag, I'd try my next target in FA/tade would be Jaren Jackson, putting him and Wemby together as a frontcourt would be lethal since Jaren is mobile enough to guard wing 4s, and he's too big for them to defend.


I don't see how LaVine grows with that team much, Zach turns 30 next month, Fox won't be 28 till December. Also, they gave up virtually nothing to get him, only 1 pick was good and that's the Minnesota 2031, Bulls pick wasn't going to convey, the Hornets pick is going to be 2 seconds, and the Spurs pick is 2027 which will be junk if Victor is healthy. They still have the Hawks picks, almost all their own picks and the Mavs 2030 pick.

I agree the trade wasn't destructive but I don't think it will help them reach a much higher level.

I don't expect Fox to make Wemby better or make life particularly easier for him. His skill set is not one that is most compatible let alone symbiotic with other high-usage players. One certainty however is that he'll be on the books for a significant chunk of their cap after his extension.

Lavine's two years older but he's a far better shooter and slasher than Fox imo, and I think his profile would've been more conducive to helping Wemby expand his repertoire.

The Minnesota and SA picks could've helped them land a bigger fish down the line. They have more than enough assets still, I agree, but I think patience would've been better here. We'll see, maybe he'll prove me wrong, but Fox to me is PG Randle really.

JJJ is a beast who'd elevate any team he's on. One of the most underrated players in the NBA. Him and Wemby would be insane.



I think he'll make Wemby's life easier just by being a capable scorer, and I think because he's not a true PG it will eventually mean Wemby has the ball more as an offensive engine, like Sabonis. I don't like what I've seen from Wemby playing off CP3, he's much more inclined to be a jumpshooter & finisher playing off someone that can set him up. I feel like he was creating more for others last season than he is this year.

Long term you want Wemby to start creating offense and being a hub passer, I know Fox can play off someone doing that role, I don't know if LaVine can do that. I look at it like this, the best bigs in the NBA don't need superstar teammates, it's a luxury if they have one, but Jokic won with Murray and Giannis won with Middleton.

The position they're in with the Hawks picks, and almost all of their own picks this was a no brainer move to me. If you run the tankathon right now, they're ending up with the top pick like a 1/3 of the time because they currently have 2 top 10 picks. All of this is moot if they somehow end up getting Flagg too, which is in play :lol:


That was I was about to say. Wemby will ultimately make his life easier. They still need their Manu.
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Post#1659 » by KnicksGadfly » Mon Feb 10, 2025 3:18 am

Sometimes I feel bad for Mavs fans and then I remember how they intentionally tanked towards the end to stop us from getting their pick. They can eat ****.
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Post#1660 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Mon Feb 10, 2025 3:31 am

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Chanel Bomber wrote:I agree the trade wasn't destructive but I don't think it will help them reach a much higher level.

I don't expect Fox to make Wemby better or make life particularly easier for him. His skill set is not one that is most compatible let alone symbiotic with other high-usage players. One certainty however is that he'll be on the books for a significant chunk of their cap after his extension.

Lavine's two years older but he's a far better shooter and slasher than Fox imo, and I think his profile would've been more conducive to helping Wemby expand his repertoire.

The Minnesota and SA picks could've helped them land a bigger fish down the line. They have more than enough assets still, I agree, but I think patience would've been better here. We'll see, maybe he'll prove me wrong, but Fox to me is PG Randle really.

JJJ is a beast who'd elevate any team he's on. One of the most underrated players in the NBA. Him and Wemby would be insane.



I think he'll make Wemby's life easier just by being a capable scorer, and I think because he's not a true PG it will eventually mean Wemby has the ball more as an offensive engine, like Sabonis. I don't like what I've seen from Wemby playing off CP3, he's much more inclined to be a jumpshooter & finisher playing off someone that can set him up. I feel like he was creating more for others last season than he is this year.

Long term you want Wemby to start creating offense and being a hub passer, I know Fox can play off someone doing that role, I don't know if LaVine can do that. I look at it like this, the best bigs in the NBA don't need superstar teammates, it's a luxury if they have one, but Jokic won with Murray and Giannis won with Middleton.

The position they're in with the Hawks picks, and almost all of their own picks this was a no brainer move to me. If you run the tankathon right now, they're ending up with the top pick like a 1/3 of the time because they currently have 2 top 10 picks. All of this is moot if they somehow end up getting Flagg too, which is in play :lol:


That was I was about to say. Wemby will ultimately make his life easier. They still need their Manu.




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