Official Brandon Ingram Thread

[RaptorLakerJay]

Is his game different from Rudy Gay? While Rudy was that guy we needed at the 3, I don't want Ingram to be one of those high volume shots players that look good on the stat sheet, but really shoot teams out of games.

I haven't watched much of him

Rudy never had more than 2.8 assists prior to joining the Raptors. I think BI is a better playmaker. There was a shot chart on the previous pages which shows that while Ingram takes lot of mid-range jumpers and also poor quality shots, he actually shoots them at elite efficiency.

[Rapsfan07]

out of this year's top 5 (Cooper, Ace, Harper, Kasp, Edgecombe), anyone have any predictions as to which one of these players will end up better than a healthy Ingram?

I think they all got a chance, but at the same time it's very possible that Ingram ends up as the #2/3 best player among these 5.

Cooper, Ace and Harper all project to have higher ceilings than a healthy Ingram. The guy has been in the NBA for 9 seasons he’s not going turn into Jayson Tatum next season, but being the best version of Brandon Ingram is still good.

I’d argue ace is floor Rashard Lewis and Ceiling slightly better Ingram if he can stay healthy if not he will top out as Ingram. Flagg should be better no doubt but Harper I’m not sure what I think about him yet

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Cooper and Harper are my bets to be better players than Ingram if I had to bet, though nothing is guaranteed. I am not sold Ace Baily at all but I do this Kasp and Edgecombe will turn out to be good players.

I'd have Ingram 3rd in this draft if he were entering this year.

[HumbleRen]

Rudy Gay has never averaged 27/6/6 in a playoff series lol.

BI is already our best playmaker and scorer. We don’t have to overthink things. He’s at minimum a top 5 scorer that we ever had in our franchise.

The fit will be just fine, the only concern is his health.

[Kingsway_fan]

Rudy Gay has never averaged 27/6/6 in a playoff series lol.

BI is already our best playmaker and scorer. We don’t have to overthink things. He’s at minimum a top 5 scorer that we ever had in our franchise.

The fit will be just fine, the only concern is his health.

That would be amazing... looking forward to seeing him perform with Yak and Barrett...

[PD28]

Barnes will no longer be facing the top defender on the other team. I just hope Darko can reel in Ingram's poor shot attempt quality.

[MiamiSPX]

Anyone know where the full clip of this interview is?

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Yup...I saw that on the broadcast as well.

Twice...yes...twice did BI shout out Jak since arriving in Toronto. I think the BI/Jak bromance about to happen.

And y'all wanted Jak traded...he is the reason why guys want to come to Toronto!!!

Apologize to Jakob!!!

Confirmed, Ingram now Shakril's 2nd favorite player.

[YogurtProducer]

If Ingram is a legit first option then so is Pascal. The reality is both aren’t. But they are both great players.

BI hasn't had the chance to reach his scoring ceiling because he has had to be the main facilitator in the offence the past three years since Lonzo Ball departed after the 20-21 season and CJ Mac became the "point guard".

That means BI hasn't been freed up to focus on his own offence since he was 23 (was an all star at 22).....

Turn those possessions where he was creating assists into one's where he is looking to score....he'll put up 27-29ppg

I analyzed some game tape during my dead night shift and you are absolutely right. He's going to move away from the passing role he was thrown into and focus on scoring. He should be around an efficient 25+ a game for us which would be well worth his 45M AAV. The rest will fall on Barnes to become an adequate shooter and secondary scorer.

Are you back on the Ingram train already?

[Stromile12]

I don't know if we will get a large enough sample size this season to see how Ingram and others play with each other but I am optimistic about the fit. I think the first few games he plays it will be a feeling out process and a game of hot potato with the ball.

[WuTang_CMB]

BI hasn't had the chance to reach his scoring ceiling because he has had to be the main facilitator in the offence the past three years since Lonzo Ball departed after the 20-21 season and CJ Mac became the "point guard".

That means BI hasn't been freed up to focus on his own offence since he was 23 (was an all star at 22).....

Turn those possessions where he was creating assists into one's where he is looking to score....he'll put up 27-29ppg

I analyzed some game tape during my dead night shift and you are absolutely right. He's going to move away from the passing role he was thrown into and focus on scoring. He should be around an efficient 25+ a game for us which would be well worth his 45M AAV. The rest will fall on Barnes to become an adequate shooter and secondary scorer.

Are you back on the Ingram train already?

[Thaddy]

BI hasn't had the chance to reach his scoring ceiling because he has had to be the main facilitator in the offence the past three years since Lonzo Ball departed after the 20-21 season and CJ Mac became the "point guard".

That means BI hasn't been freed up to focus on his own offence since he was 23 (was an all star at 22).....

Turn those possessions where he was creating assists into one's where he is looking to score....he'll put up 27-29ppg

I analyzed some game tape during my dead night shift and you are absolutely right. He's going to move away from the passing role he was thrown into and focus on scoring. He should be around an efficient 25+ a game for us which would be well worth his 45M AAV. The rest will fall on Barnes to become an adequate shooter and secondary scorer.

Are you back on the Ingram train already?

Not really, we are stuck with him. The hope is that the slight additional spacing (Barnes v. Zion) and better playmaking from IQ, compared to CJ, helps him become a top 5 player at SF.

[nikster]

Barnes will no longer be facing the top defender on the other team. I just hope Darko can reel in Ingram's poor shot attempt quality.

How Ingram integrated with this offense will be a big factor in determining our offensive ceiling. I'm still okay with him getting his mid range shots but ideally they are within the flow of the offense. Curious to see how he does as a cutter as well

[Los_29]

BI hasn't had the chance to reach his scoring ceiling because he has had to be the main facilitator in the offence the past three years since Lonzo Ball departed after the 20-21 season and CJ Mac became the "point guard".

That means BI hasn't been freed up to focus on his own offence since he was 23 (was an all star at 22).....

Turn those possessions where he was creating assists into one's where he is looking to score....he'll put up 27-29ppg

I analyzed some game tape during my dead night shift and you are absolutely right. He's going to move away from the passing role he was thrown into and focus on scoring. He should be around an efficient 25+ a game for us which would be well worth his 45M AAV. The rest will fall on Barnes to become an adequate shooter and secondary scorer.

Are you back on the Ingram train already?

Legendary flip flopping here. League of his own.

[Son Goku 25]

Ingram sounds a bit like KD.

I think we can get him to avg 4 more points if he's healthy at minimum, he's pretty unguardable unless you injure him. Plus he is a good play maker and ball handler, his length alone should make him an avg defender at minimum.. I'm excited.

[Tha Cynic]

The big thing the Raptors focus with on new players is changing their shot diet. I expect the Raptors will change where Ingram gets his scoring from. He’s very good at scoring inside when he gets there, but doesn’t do it enough. I expect the Raptors can generate more baskets for him going to the rim. He’s also a good 3 point shooter and has shot better than league average when he shoots more than 6 a game. As people have mentioned, he hasn’t played with a PG and won’t really play with one here, but Barnes like to pass and Ingram won’t need to initiate for others. They will work well together and hopefully better than Barnes and IQ in the pick and roll.

Also kind of funny and may work out well for the Raptors, but Ingram shoots above league average from the left arc at the 3 point line and is league average from everywhere else. Barnes is best from dead centre and left corner and IQ is elite from there top of the arc. Barrett is best from right arc of the 3 point line.

If someone told me we could push everyone on the team down one slot on the scoring side for a 2026 first round controlled by another team, and someone who won’t be 27 till later this year, I would say, go for it.

For those who keep bringing up Siakam - this is just a better fit position wise. Not sure why we are even talking about this. Ingram has proven to be a more talented 3 point shooter and plays a position we badly needed to improve.

[Tha Cynic]

I analyzed some game tape during my dead night shift and you are absolutely right. He's going to move away from the passing role he was thrown into and focus on scoring. He should be around an efficient 25+ a game for us which would be well worth his 45M AAV. The rest will fall on Barnes to become an adequate shooter and secondary scorer.

Are you back on the Ingram train already?

Not really, we are stuck with him. The hope is that the slight additional spacing (Barnes v. Zion) and better playmaking from IQ, compared to CJ, helps him become a top 5 player at SF.

Understandable that someone may have initial reactions, and then do some research and adjust their takes. From there it makes sense that you would look for positives since we know he’s here. You do you.

Personally, I think him moving into our team as best scorer and being a good 3 point shooter is a positive. This is even better if we can add a high first round pick. In the East we are shaping up to be a competitive team next season if we can stay healthy. I don’t see teams like Orlando or Indiana as having better rosters than Toronto. Even a healthy 76ers team doesn’t scare me.

[YogurtProducer]

Are you back on the Ingram train already?

Not really, we are stuck with him. The hope is that the slight additional spacing (Barnes v. Zion) and better playmaking from IQ, compared to CJ, helps him become a top 5 player at SF.

Understandable that someone may have initial reactions, and then do some research and adjust their takes. From there it makes sense that you would look for positives since we know he’s here. You do you.

Personally, I think him moving into our team as best scorer and being a good 3 point shooter is a positive. This is even better if we can add a high first round pick. In the East we are shaping up to be a competitive team next season if we can stay healthy. I don’t see teams like Orlando or Indiana as having better rosters than Toronto. Even a healthy 76ers team doesn’t scare me.

He went from loving it, to melting down about it, to liking it again, to actually being netural on it? All without seeing Ingram play a minute

But I agree with all that you said. The gap between Toronto and the tier 2 teams was never as big as advertised.

Essentially going into next year we could add Ingram, top pick, and Quickley who has barely played. That is a lot of additions

[Tha Cynic]

Not really, we are stuck with him. The hope is that the slight additional spacing (Barnes v. Zion) and better playmaking from IQ, compared to CJ, helps him become a top 5 player at SF.

Understandable that someone may have initial reactions, and then do some research and adjust their takes. From there it makes sense that you would look for positives since we know he’s here. You do you.

Personally, I think him moving into our team as best scorer and being a good 3 point shooter is a positive. This is even better if we can add a high first round pick. In the East we are shaping up to be a competitive team next season if we can stay healthy. I don’t see teams like Orlando or Indiana as having better rosters than Toronto. Even a healthy 76ers team doesn’t scare me.

He went from loving it, to melting down about it, to liking it again, to actually being netural on it? All without seeing Ingram play a minute

But I agree with all that you said. The gap between Toronto and the tier 2 teams was never as big as advertised.

Essentially going into next year we could add Ingram, top pick, and Quickley who has barely played. That is a lot of additions

I mean this board overreacts play by play and makes player projections for their entire careers based on quarters lol. This case person clearly didn’t like it based on what they have seen, and then did some research. If you don’t like it based on research, you can either mope about it or look to see why the team did what they did and look for positives.

I think we’re good enough where our pick may be worse than Indiana’s but health will play a huge role.

[LoveMyRaps]

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[Tor_Raps]

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I believe he can only sign a 3 year extension if it's before the season ends and 4/5 in the offseason.

3/120 would be my guess if it's done now, hopefully there isn't a player option with that.

[LoveMyRaps]

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I believe he can only sign a 3 year extension if it's before the season ends and 4/5 in the offseason.

3/120 would be my guess if it's done now, hopefully there isn't a player option with that.

I'd be happy with 3/120 - w/ the 3rd year being a team option.

I feel like Masai & co. want to keep the books clear for 2027 FA when SGA becomes available.

Both RJ and Poelt come off the books that summer.