Mavericks ( Patrick Dumont) owner craps on Lukas work ethic

[NO-KG-AI]

But it doesnt make them wrong. They can be ignorant about Shaq, and still be parroting someone who is right.

Time will see how this plays out. I think Mavs dodged a huge bullet. I realize thats a minority view right now.

Its not really a minority view it jsut doesn't make any sense at all. If they wanted to trade him to "dodge a bullet" they could have gotten young assets. Trading for an older player now that has way worse concerns about longevity is just not logical.

The problem is Kyrie doesn't have the time for those young assets to blossom. He's got a P.O. this summer. If he were to walk, that better return would have to account for that. If Kyrie walks, you also have to deal with the public fallout of going from a contender to a rebuilding team.

Finally, I feel like fans are sleeping on just how good that Lively/AD front court could be over the next 2-4 playoffs.

Trading a 25 year old superstar that willed you to the finals to fot Kyrie’s timeline is hilarious. Lmfao.

[doogie_hauser]

Mavericks ownership rapidly becoming as toxic and disliked as Donald Sterling at the Clips

[jbk1234]

Its not really a minority view it jsut doesn't make any sense at all. If they wanted to trade him to "dodge a bullet" they could have gotten young assets. Trading for an older player now that has way worse concerns about longevity is just not logical.

The problem is Kyrie doesn't have the time for those young assets to blossom. He's got a P.O. this summer. If he were to walk, that better return would have to account for that. If Kyrie walks, you also have to deal with the public fallout of going from a contender to a rebuilding team.

Finally, I feel like fans are sleeping on just how good that Lively/AD front court could be over the next 2-4 playoffs.

Trading a 25 year old superstar that willed you to the finals to fot Kyrie’s timeline is hilarious. Lmfao.

I'm not saying the decision to trade Luka was right. I'm saying that having made that decision, taking back AD, Christie, and and unprotected 1st makes more sense than a rebuilding package.

[Baz]

What a massive jerk. He is a fat idiot who knows nothing about basketball talking about work ethic. Luka dragged your team to the FINALS last year while carrying an injury. F this dude. I wish him all the worst.

[rockmanslim]

I actually miss Mark Cuban right now

How culpable is Cuban in all this? He did choose to sell the team to them. Or maybe he didn't have a choice? Maybe they made him an offer he couldn't refuse?

[rockmanslim]

Much of the reported reasoning is unflattering to Doncic: ...didn’t consistently give full effort on defense, although he made strides the past two seasons.

Imagine a team trading Dirk because he wasn't a good defender.

[wco81]

I actually miss Mark Cuban right now

How culpable is Cuban in all this? He did choose to sell the team to them. Or maybe he didn't have a choice? Maybe they made him an offer he couldn't refuse?

Cuban bought the team in 2000 for $285 million.

He sold it at the end of 2023 for a valuation of $3.8 to 3.9 billion, while retaining 27% share. So he got like $3 billion for the 73% share he sold.

The choice was to take $3 billion and have some share of the team, while supposedly being promised to run the basketball operations.

Apparently Dumont reneged on that term, so Cuban has no say in basketball operations.

But he's richer, though with the team giving away one of the best players in the league, maybe the franchise isn't worth as much.

If attendance and ratings decline, revenues will fall and so will the valuation, though they're one of the top 10 markets in the NBA.

[FrobeBryant]

I think the entire Mavericks FO needs to stfu for a while until the backlash blows over

[Optimus_Steel]

I actually miss Mark Cuban right now

How culpable is Cuban in all this? He did choose to sell the team to them. Or maybe he didn't have a choice? Maybe they made him an offer he couldn't refuse?

Cuban bought the team in 2000 for $285 million.

He sold it at the end of 2023 for a valuation of $3.8 to 3.9 billion, while retaining 27% share. So he got like $3 billion for the 73% share he sold.

The choice was to take $3 billion and have some share of the team, while supposedly being promised to run the basketball operations.

Apparently Dumont reneged on that term, so Cuban has no say in basketball operations.

But he's richer, though with the team giving away one of the best players in the league, maybe the franchise isn't worth as much.

If attendance and ratings decline, revenues will fall and so will the valuation, though they're one of the top 10 markets in the NBA.

I have a feeling Cuban has been cash poor for some time. He used the Mavs to promote a crypto scam. That just reeks of desperation.

[ckman]

Problem is this backlash will never blow over, it’ll get worse when Luka dominating like he always did in LA while AD resting on bed

[Sedale Threatt]

Larry Bird once ate 7 wedding cakes in two weeks while he was injured. This SIL doesn't know his NBA history at all, and he only owns a team because he married a rich person's daughter. The dude should just shut up hole and let Mavs fans process this.

I love that Bird story. He said he preferred wedding cakes because he knew they wouldn't fck those up

[MrGoat]

Larry Bird once ate 7 wedding cakes in two weeks while he was injured. This SIL doesn't know his NBA history at all, and he only owns a team because he married a rich person's daughter. The dude should just shut up hole and let Mavs fans process this.

I love that Bird story. He said he preferred wedding cakes because he knew they wouldn't fck those up

It was 7 wedding cakes and 10 gallons of ice cream

https://celticswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/celtics/2023/11/30/nba-boston-celtics-bird-cake/77125611007/

"I was so bored, I'd sit around the house, drive my wife crazy, and eat and eat," Bird told McCallum. "In two and a half weeks, I was off. I ate ten gallons of ice cream and seven weddin' cakes. Why them? I ate weddin' cakes 'cause you knew they was gonna be good. I mean, who would (expletive) up a weddin' cake?"

Larry Bird probably looked like he was built like Patrick Dumont at the end of that

[Mephariel]

It’s pretty obvious Luka never had a great work ethic. It’s just are you willing to put up with that because of his talent. Some don’t care, others want their leader to set an example for others.

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All the Mavericks fans should vent their frustrations but ultimately the Mavericks success will be the best way to assess this move.

Mavericks look good defensively with Davis and if they continue to do well and get far in the playoffs, the fans will forget and forgive.


The owners, the ones with the billions, access to daily information and the ones who see every thing are more than welcome to make the move they deem best for their business.


Luka is a great, but ultimately I think most logical fans are angry because Mavericks didn't fleece Lakers.

Mavericks should have received minimum 3 first round picks without protection along with Davis.

The only way Mavs justify this is
A) Mavs win a title with AD while Luka never wins a title
There no B or C ot any other scenario
First time Luka wins a ring..this will be forever worst trade in Mavs history..100 years after Nico and owners are dead..still then

Nah, if the Mavericks wins a title, they should be proud of the trade. Doesn't matter what happens to Luka.

[sp6r=underrated]

The problem is Kyrie doesn't have the time for those young assets to blossom. He's got a P.O. this summer. If he were to walk, that better return would have to account for that. If Kyrie walks, you also have to deal with the public fallout of going from a contender to a rebuilding team.

Finally, I feel like fans are sleeping on just how good that Lively/AD front court could be over the next 2-4 playoffs.

Trading a 25 year old superstar that willed you to the finals to fot Kyrie’s timeline is hilarious. Lmfao.

I'm not saying the decision to trade Luka was right. I'm saying that having made that decision, taking back AD, Christie, and and unprotected 1st makes more sense than a rebuilding package.

If you're trading Luka, you could have gotten a much better package than the Lakers package.

That is what makes this trade so insane. It was a 2 part epic stupidity.
1. Trading generational players is moronic. They did this voluntarily.
2. If for some reason you're going to do it, you can easily get max # of picks and 2 good young players. Instead of negotiating with multiple teams they negotiated with 1 team and let them bargain them down to 1 pick.

Finally, your "fans are sleeping . . ." comment touches on why this trade is terrible for the Mavs outside of the basketball court. The mavs got way less marketable with casual fans and infuriated their longterm fans.

Just a deranged move.

[sp6r=underrated]

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All the Mavericks fans should vent their frustrations but ultimately the Mavericks success will be the best way to assess this move.

Mavericks look good defensively with Davis and if they continue to do well and get far in the playoffs, the fans will forget and forgive.


The owners, the ones with the billions, access to daily information and the ones who see every thing are more than welcome to make the move they deem best for their business.


Luka is a great, but ultimately I think most logical fans are angry because Mavericks didn't fleece Lakers.

Mavericks should have received minimum 3 first round picks without protection along with Davis.

The only way Mavs justify this is
A) Mavs win a title with AD while Luka never wins a title
There no B or C ot any other scenario
First time Luka wins a ring..this will be forever worst trade in Mavs history..100 years after Nico and owners are dead..still then

Nah, if the Mavericks wins a title, they should be proud of the trade. Doesn't matter what happens to Luka.

I'm in my 40s. If I were to quit my job, empty out my 401k (6 figures), spend all my saving on powerball tickets get lucky and become a billionaire because one of the tickets hit I'm still a total dumbass for doing the above.

And that's this trade for the Mavericks even if it works out it works out the way winning the lottery works out (random luck overcoming extreme stupidity)

[Mephariel]

The only way Mavs justify this is
A) Mavs win a title with AD while Luka never wins a title
There no B or C ot any other scenario
First time Luka wins a ring..this will be forever worst trade in Mavs history..100 years after Nico and owners are dead..still then

Nah, if the Mavericks wins a title, they should be proud of the trade. Doesn't matter what happens to Luka.

I'm in my 40s. If I were to quit my job, empty out my 401k (6 figures), spend all my saving on powerball tickets get lucky and become a billionaire because one of the tickets hit I'm still a total dumbass for doing the above.

And that's this trade for the Mavericks even if it works out it works out the way winning the lottery works out (random luck overcoming extreme stupidity)

Except sports is not luck. Teams compete for a championship. There is no magic formula. If the Mavs win with this team, they should take it and run with it. It could be a once in a lifetime chance to win a championship.

[Raps in 4]

Nah, if the Mavericks wins a title, they should be proud of the trade. Doesn't matter what happens to Luka.

I'm in my 40s. If I were to quit my job, empty out my 401k (6 figures), spend all my saving on powerball tickets get lucky and become a billionaire because one of the tickets hit I'm still a total dumbass for doing the above.

And that's this trade for the Mavericks even if it works out it works out the way winning the lottery works out (random luck overcoming extreme stupidity)

Except sports is not luck. Teams compete for a championship. There is no magic formula. If the Mavs win with this team, they should take it and run with it. It could be a once in a lifetime chance to win a championship.

Sure, but they would need to get extremely lucky to win a title with this roster.

[-Luke-]

Most pathetic and spineless organization in the NBA. And I'm saying that as someone who was somewhat of a Mavs fan for years. Donnie Nelson and Cuban knew how to treat your franchise player. They also had some questionable moves over the years like breaking up the 2011 title team. Bad moves happen. Disgraceful behavior shouldn't happen.

[NO-KG-AI]

Trading a 25 year old superstar that willed you to the finals to fot Kyrie’s timeline is hilarious. Lmfao.

I'm not saying the decision to trade Luka was right. I'm saying that having made that decision, taking back AD, Christie, and and unprotected 1st makes more sense than a rebuilding package.

If you're trading Luka, you could have gotten a much better package than the Lakers package.

That is what makes this trade so insane. It was a 2 part epic stupidity.
1. Trading generational players is moronic. They did this voluntarily.
2. If for some reason you're going to do it, you can easily get max # of picks and 2 good young players. Instead of negotiating with multiple teams they negotiated with 1 team and let them bargain them down to 1 pick.

Finally, your "fans are sleeping . . ." comment touches on why this trade is terrible for the Mavs outside of the basketball court. The mavs got way less marketable with casual fans and infuriated their longterm fans.

Just a deranged move.

But just wait till AD and Kyrie get fully healthy for the whole year bro, then it’s over.

[-Luke-]

Dumont work ethic=getting married

Perfect comment, lol.