How should Boston handle KP going forward??

[Parliament10]

I think I made only 2 threads in 5 years, but here goes.

Is it just coincidence that Boston seemingly plays better without KP then with? I don't do numbers, but since his return their seems to be some evidence.

Do we stay the course? Lessen his load on offense? Is it possible to lessen his load or will KP just keep doing what he does??

Bring him in as 6th man? (side note) I would start Kornet over Al in that case. Kornet playing better than Al and stays inside near the Rim on offense. Defense similar for me between the 2.

Is my theory of too many mouths to feed legit? I mean Tatum sometimes barely gets it going when we are fully healthy. Was tonight against the NYK just a coincidence for Tatum?? what about White and even Jrue getting more opportunities.

KP is still the best rim protector. Would KP blow a gasket if he was told to be the 6th man??

Would Joe even have the courage to ask??

Can we consider starting KP on a game-to-game basis depending on matchups??

What will give us the best Chance to win 19??

Opinions ??

I think that you continue to Start Porzingis. But, may want to split the Starters into 2 Units, after that.
It seems like there are often too many mouths to feed.

Tatum can run with up to 4 Bench guys. Bring Zinger and Brown back in together, to run another Unit.
White also fills in nicely, as the 3rd player, when KP is OUT.

[Fierce1]

I think I made only 2 threads in 5 years, but here goes.

Is it just coincidence that Boston seemingly plays better without KP then with? I don't do numbers, but since his return their seems to be some evidence.

Do we stay the course? Lessen his load on offense? Is it possible to lessen his load or will KP just keep doing what he does??

Bring him in as 6th man? (side note) I would start Kornet over Al in that case. Kornet playing better than Al and stays inside near the Rim on offense. Defense similar for me between the 2.

Is my theory of too many mouths to feed legit? I mean Tatum sometimes barely gets it going when we are fully healthy. Was tonight against the NYK just a coincidence for Tatum?? what about White and even Jrue getting more opportunities.

KP is still the best rim protector. Would KP blow a gasket if he was told to be the 6th man??

Would Joe even have the courage to ask??

Can we consider starting KP on a game-to-game basis depending on matchups??

What will give us the best Chance to win 19??

Opinions ??

I think that you continue to Start Porzingis. But, may want to split the Starters into 2 Units, after that.
It seems like there are often too many mouths to feed.

Tatum can run with up to 4 Bench guys. Bring Zinger and Brown back in together, to run another Unit.
White also fills in nicely, as the 3rd player, when KP is OUT.

Agree.

Splitting the starters into 2 units will help that too many mouths to feed dilemma.

[playa-hater]

I think I made only 2 threads in 5 years, but here goes.

Is it just coincidence that Boston seemingly plays better without KP then with? I don't do numbers, but since his return their seems to be some evidence.

Do we stay the course? Lessen his load on offense? Is it possible to lessen his load or will KP just keep doing what he does??

Bring him in as 6th man? (side note) I would start Kornet over Al in that case. Kornet playing better than Al and stays inside near the Rim on offense. Defense similar for me between the 2.

Is my theory of too many mouths to feed legit? I mean Tatum sometimes barely gets it going when we are fully healthy. Was tonight against the NYK just a coincidence for Tatum?? what about White and even Jrue getting more opportunities.

KP is still the best rim protector. Would KP blow a gasket if he was told to be the 6th man??

Would Joe even have the courage to ask??

Can we consider starting KP on a game-to-game basis depending on matchups??

What will give us the best Chance to win 19??

Opinions ??

I think that you continue to Start Porzingis. But, may want to split the Starters into 2 Units, after that.
It seems like there are often too many mouths to feed.

Tatum can run with up to 4 Bench guys. Bring Zinger and Brown back in together, to run another Unit.
White also fills in nicely, as the 3rd player, when KP is OUT.

Amazing to think Tatum is even better with backups vs the starters most of the time "it seems"

Maybe we should have Tatum become 6th man kidding.... I think OR Start Tatum with 4 backups!! That will teach our starters

[Jellybeans]

You know why this thread sux?
It doenst talk about our entire starting 5 in last +/- 5 weeks before this last week.
Everyone was in the biggest hole in some time.
JB was god awful on D and simply didnt wanna play it.Kept running into wall trying to create for others and turning ball over and over.
Jrue/DWhite wasnt as bad JB but still wasnt great.DWhite couldnt buy a bucket for like full month.Jrue lost his corner 3.
JT started to miss layups and everyone else said we can do it too.
Too much ball watching and not so much moving off the ball.

[Parliament10]

You know why this thread sux?
It doenst talk about our entire starting 5 in last +/- 5 weeks before this last week.
Everyone was in the biggest hole in some time.
JB was god awful on D and simply didnt wanna play it.Kept running into wall trying to create for others and turning ball over and over.
Jrue/DWhite wasnt as bad JB but still wasnt great.DWhite couldnt buy a bucket for like full month.Jrue lost his corner 3.
JT started to miss layups and everyone else said we can do it too.
Too much ball watching and not so much moving off the ball.

Saying that the Thread Sucks, is kind of harsh. It could be taken personally.
Seems like you're explaining why the whole Team hasn't been good?

You should just stick to explaining that.

~ Parl

[snowman]

How should Boston handle KP going forward?

1) Get more playing time as a starting unit with Tatum, Brown, White and Holiday.
2) Alternate KP and Horford on back to backs.
3) Keep Kornet and Queta involved as much as possible without messing up the starting rotation.
4) Extend KP this summer for at least another 2 years.

[GoCeltics123]

It's a tough one. They have a +1.5 net rating with him on the court this year, essentially they've been an average team when he's playing. 16-11 with him, 21-6 without him. I think that's for 2 reasons:

1. His post-ups are still effective, but when you constantly go to them, it bogs the offense down and really slows the team down as a whole. They're 30th in pace with him this year, they just don't run enough. With Kornet, they very clearly play a lot faster because he runs hard.

2. Defensively, I think the Celtics on the perimeter as a whole have been lazy; they constantly look to KP as a backstop, like last year. With Al playing earlier this year, they had to play harder and switch more, so their numbers were better. I think that's an effort thing and not just a KP one, although his pick and roll defense hasn't been great.

I'm not really sure the exact solution tbh, he's played well as a whole, but I think he needs to change the way he's playing to benefit the team. He probably should be used more as a floor spacer with less post-ups, that way there's more space for guys to drive and kick. Is his ideal role a 6th man? It could be. Idk.

However, like others have said, his presence against OKC and Cleveland is 100% needed. You can't beat those teams (maybe Cleveland but definitely not OKC) without him, as his size is needed against Mobley and Chet. You saw against the Cavs, he didn't play well offensively but he completely made Mobley a non-factor.

[phincsfan]

They're just all shooting bad at the moment which puts pressure on the overall transition D. Teams are running on them a lot. They can clean that up, but lots of misses gives way to lots of running opportunities. The C's did that all last season to everybody.

Everybody fit in perfect last season because the hoop was the size of a hula hoop for them all. Everybody ate. This season they're scraping and grinding to get wins.

Keep KP in the starting line-up, but the remaining back to backs Luke and AL become options rather than just AL. Keep AL fresh for his final playoff push.

I loved seeing 26+ minutes each for Luke and Neems.

[31to6]

When this team really clicks, it's like an All Star team. I haven't seen that in green since the 1980s, and KP can be a big part of it, so I say keep trying to find that mojo with him this season and especially these playoffs. There's no reason they can't figure it out/make it work.

[Fierce1]

When this team really clicks, it's like an All Star team. I haven't seen that in green since the 1980s, and KP can be a big part of it, so I say keep trying to find that mojo with him this season and especially these playoffs. There's no reason they can't figure it out/make it work.

And they have 2 months to figure it out.

[fallguy]

It's not KP's fault he returned right as the rest of the team decided to phone it in on defense for six weeks.

[playa-hater]

You know why this thread sux?
It doenst talk about our entire starting 5 in last +/- 5 weeks before this last week.
Everyone was in the biggest hole in some time.
JB was god awful on D and simply didnt wanna play it.Kept running into wall trying to create for others and turning ball over and over.
Jrue/DWhite wasnt as bad JB but still wasnt great.DWhite couldnt buy a bucket for like full month.Jrue lost his corner 3.
JT started to miss layups and everyone else said we can do it too.
Too much ball watching and not so much moving off the ball.

Saying that the Thread Sucks, is kind of harsh. It could be taken personally.
Seems like you're explaining why the whole Team hasn't been good?

You should just stick to explaining that.

~ Parl

I actually have thick skin with the exception of ONE poster, Any guesses??

[playa-hater]

It's not KP's fault he returned right as the rest of the team decided to phone it in on defense for six weeks.

for the defensive part, you are right, but the offensive part seems rather inefficient and stale as a whole, and it also seems we start off so slow offensively. I actually think "stale offense" will lead to less energized/lazy/unfocused defense.

Again, this thread isn't about blaming KP or any player but rather how can Boston maximize their team. Don't think anyone thinks we are playing anywhere near our capabilities.

[fallguy]

It's not KP's fault he returned right as the rest of the team decided to phone it in on defense for six weeks.

for the defensive part, you are right, but the offensive part seems rather inefficient and stale as a whole, and it also seems we start off so slow offensively. I actually think "stale offense" will lead to less energized/lazy/unfocused defense.

Again, this thread isn't about blaming KP or any player but rather how can Boston maximize their team. Don't think anyone thinks we are playing anywhere near our capabilities.

I don't see how KP makes the offense stale. I still haven't heard a good argument to that effect.

[playa-hater]

It's not KP's fault he returned right as the rest of the team decided to phone it in on defense for six weeks.

for the defensive part, you are right, but the offensive part seems rather inefficient and stale as a whole, and it also seems we start off so slow offensively. I actually think "stale offense" will lead to less energized/lazy/unfocused defense.

Again, this thread isn't about blaming KP or any player but rather how can Boston maximize their team. Don't think anyone thinks we are playing anywhere near our capabilities.

I don't see how KP makes the offense stale. I still haven't heard a good argument to that effect.

The effort to get him going early while other players standing around watching KP either "Logo Launching" with rarely anyone in the so called Dunker's spot seems "stale" IMO. Tatum often gets very little touches early on and often results in slow starts for Tatum and ball-movement in general. White also rarely is involved early and Jrue has totally taken a back-seat on Most nights. Does anyone move or Cut consistently anymore with our starters?

Again, this doesn't all fall on KP. and Yes KP will be needed Bigtime against certain Matchups like Cleveland and OKC. Just wondering out loud and looking for opinions at this point.

[Tyakack]

You know why this thread sux?
It doenst talk about our entire starting 5 in last +/- 5 weeks before this last week.
Everyone was in the biggest hole in some time.
JB was god awful on D and simply didnt wanna play it.Kept running into wall trying to create for others and turning ball over and over.
Jrue/DWhite wasnt as bad JB but still wasnt great.DWhite couldnt buy a bucket for like full month.Jrue lost his corner 3.
JT started to miss layups and everyone else said we can do it too.
Too much ball watching and not so much moving off the ball.

Saying that the Thread Sucks, is kind of harsh. It could be taken personally.
Seems like you're explaining why the whole Team hasn't been good?

You should just stick to explaining that.

~ Parl

I actually have thick skin with the exception of ONE poster, Any guesses??

I just got done reading you two going back and forth. I was about to jump in but I didn't wanna make it worse lol.

[ryan in Maine]

What happened to Cookies & Cream?

[31to6]

What happened to Cookies & Cream?

one of them passes to the other one once every 3 or 4 games and Scal yells it at the top of his lungs

[ryan in Maine]

What happened to Cookies & Cream?

one of them passes to the other one once every 3 or 4 games and Scal yells it at the top of his lungs

I miss the good old days of last season...

[GoCeltics123]

I really liked the way the Celtics used KP last night. Lot of points from the dunker spot, 3 point line or off cuts to the hoop. Post-ups mainly when JT isn't out there. Everything looked crisper.

That KP fits great on this team