FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025

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FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025 

Post#1 » by MadNESS » Sun Feb 9, 2025 4:28 pm

Started a new thread since the last one is 100 pages long now...
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Re: FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025 

Post#2 » by Laimbeer » Mon Feb 10, 2025 3:44 am

Hubie Brown Draft

Bucks
Colonels (ABA)
Hawks
Knicks
Grizzlies

Any thoughts on expanding the pool? Have an exception perhaps? Duke alums?
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Re: FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025 

Post#3 » by durantbird » Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:35 am

Laimbeer wrote:Hubie Brown Draft

Bucks
Colonels (ABA)
Hawks
Knicks
Grizzlies

Any thoughts on expanding the pool? Have an exception perhaps? Duke alums?

If we do it, I'd at least do it "any player who player there" rather than seasons in Hawks etc. Also I'd add Duke
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Re: FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025 

Post#4 » by Laimbeer » Mon Feb 10, 2025 3:48 pm

durantbird wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:Hubie Brown Draft

Bucks
Colonels (ABA)
Hawks
Knicks
Grizzlies

Any thoughts on expanding the pool? Have an exception perhaps? Duke alums?

If we do it, I'd at least do it "any player who player there" rather than seasons in Hawks etc. Also I'd add Duke


Agreed.
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Re: FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025 

Post#5 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Feb 10, 2025 5:43 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
durantbird wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:Hubie Brown Draft

Bucks
Colonels (ABA)
Hawks
Knicks
Grizzlies

Any thoughts on expanding the pool? Have an exception perhaps? Duke alums?

If we do it, I'd at least do it "any player who player there" rather than seasons in Hawks etc. Also I'd add Duke


Agreed.

Is this enough top-end talent?

Kareem
Giannis
Moses
Ewing
Oscar
Tatum
T-Mac
Dwight
Dame
Hill
Rose
Penny
Gilmore
Reed
Frazier

It's a weird and interesting pool, but my only concern would be whether the teams at the bottom would have enough to compete. Kareem and Giannis seem levels above everyone else except maybe Oscar.
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Re: FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025 

Post#6 » by Laimbeer » Mon Feb 10, 2025 5:49 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
durantbird wrote:If we do it, I'd at least do it "any player who player there" rather than seasons in Hawks etc. Also I'd add Duke


Agreed.

Is this enough top-end talent?

Kareem
Giannis
Moses
Ewing
Oscar
Tatum
T-Mac
Dwight
Dame
Hill
Rose
Penny
Gilmore
Reed
Frazier

It's a weird and interesting pool, but my only concern would be whether the teams at the bottom would have enough to compete. Kareem and Giannis seem levels above everyone else except maybe Oscar.


No MVPs?
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Re: FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025 

Post#7 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Feb 10, 2025 5:53 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Agreed.

Is this enough top-end talent?

Kareem
Giannis
Moses
Ewing
Oscar
Tatum
T-Mac
Dwight
Dame
Hill
Rose
Penny
Gilmore
Reed
Frazier

It's a weird and interesting pool, but my only concern would be whether the teams at the bottom would have enough to compete. Kareem and Giannis seem levels above everyone else except maybe Oscar.


No MVPs?

Maybe no multiple MVPs, which would remove Kareem, Giannis, and Moses. Although people might not want to ban players in an already shallow draft.
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Post#8 » by durantbird » Mon Feb 10, 2025 6:03 pm

Yeah, I'm just not sure the talent level is enough all in all. If we ban some players it gets worse. Maybe better to go a different direction for a draft
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Post#9 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Feb 10, 2025 7:32 pm

COuld easily add the 76ers and the Pistons as Hubie was an announcer for both those teams.

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Duke
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Re: FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025 

Post#10 » by Laimbeer » Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:31 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:Is this enough top-end talent?

Kareem
Giannis
Moses
Ewing
Oscar
Tatum
T-Mac
Dwight
Dame
Hill
Rose
Penny
Gilmore
Reed
Frazier

It's a weird and interesting pool, but my only concern would be whether the teams at the bottom would have enough to compete. Kareem and Giannis seem levels above everyone else except maybe Oscar.


No MVPs?

Maybe no multiple MVPs, which would remove Kareem, Giannis, and Moses. Although people might not want to ban players in an already shallow draft.


I like Larry's suggestion to add the Pistons and Sixers.

Wilt
Doc
Embiid
Barkley
Kareem
Giannis
Moses
Ewing
Oscar
Tatum
T-Mac

There's no LeBron or anything - not sure if the top of this list is too much of an advantage to be feasible.
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Re: FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025 

Post#11 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:10 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
No MVPs?

Maybe no multiple MVPs, which would remove Kareem, Giannis, and Moses. Although people might not want to ban players in an already shallow draft.


I like Larry's suggestion to add the Pistons and Sixers.

Wilt
Doc
Embiid
Barkley
Kareem
Giannis
Moses
Ewing
Oscar
Tatum
T-Mac

There's no LeBron or anything - not sure if the top of this list is too much of an advantage to be feasible.

Yeah, that does make sense since he's known more for being a broadcaster than a coach.
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Re: FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025 

Post#12 » by durantbird » Sun Feb 16, 2025 3:22 pm

Not Loyal, Not Journeyman: 2-3 Clubs

Top end talent: MJ, LBJ, Wade, Hakeem, Garnett, Wilt, Kawhi, Luka, AD, Ewing, Price, Clyde, Oscar, Karl Malone, Klay, SGA, Walton, Barkley, Pippen, Nash, Frazier, Erving, Petrovic, Mourning, probably many other that I missed

Might be best to limit to to a smaller timeframe

Or using an only 2 clubs guys framework: MJ, Hakeem, Luka, Price, Frazier, Clyde, Klay, Oscar, Karl Malone, SGA, Petrovic, Bosh, Brunson

Or 3 clubs only: LBJ, Wade, Garnett, Wilt, Kawhi, AD, Ewing, Walton, Barkley, Pippen, Nash, Erving, Mourning
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Re: FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025 

Post#13 » by Laimbeer » Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:34 am

Do a draft of the 2025 NBA roster, similar to what is happening. Three independent drafts, each with three teams. At end we can rank each pod, and those three advance to a ranking for the winner. Would require nine sign ups, no more, no less.
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
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Re: FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025 

Post#14 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Feb 17, 2025 1:46 pm

In an effort to get som lesser drafted guys.

FGA draft in which the starters are allowed to have a minimum FGA requirement

And the starting lineup must have:
1 player who attempted more than 24+ FGA in a season
1 player who attempted more than 20+ FGA in a season
3 player who attempted 10-15 FGA in a season.

Bench can have a maximum of 15 FGA
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Re: FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025 

Post#15 » by durantbird » Mon Feb 17, 2025 6:36 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:In an effort to get som lesser drafted guys.

FGA draft in which the starters are allowed to have a minimum FGA requirement

And the starting lineup must have:
1 player who attempted more than 24+ FGA in a season
1 player who attempted more than 20+ FGA in a season
3 player who attempted 10-15 FGA in a season.

Bench can have a maximum of 15 FGA

We had the slotted draft which is similar. As flaco pointed out then, we should be really careful with the mathematics when applying FGA restrictions on all players, otherwise we might get some odd situations.
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Re: FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025 

Post#16 » by Laimbeer » Fri Feb 21, 2025 12:34 am

Draft Lockdown Draft. A draft year is locked down after two players are taken from it. Go back as far as we need to get just enough players. For example, 10 drafters would need 80 players, so we'd use the last 40 drafts - 1984 to 2023.
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2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
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Re: FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025 

Post#17 » by Fadeaway_J » Fri Feb 21, 2025 12:54 am

Laimbeer wrote:Draft Lockdown Draft. A draft year is locked down after two players are taken from it. Go back as far as we need to get just enough players. For example, 10 drafters would need 80 players, so we'd use the last 40 drafts - 1984 to 2023.

This is actually where I got the idea from the current game. :lol: We did a version of this many years ago, but it was four per draft instead of two.
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Post#18 » by durantbird » Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:53 pm

We're only at the start of the 2-3 teams guys idea, but here's another one I thought of right now:

Every one of your 8 players needs to belong to a different category in terms of how many teams he played for.

Example of a valid team:

A guy who played for 1 team

A guy who played for 2 teams

A guy who played for 4 teams

A guy who played for 5 teams

A guy who played for 7 teams

A guy who played for 8 teams

A guy who played for 9 teams

A guy who played for 10 teams
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Re: FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025 

Post#19 » by migya » Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:08 am

Draft game idea - Alternating picks of player on chosen season championship team and team with worst record in the nba. Can be from teams from different seasons. Not picking pairs, just one at a time but stating when making pick the team and season.
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Re: FUTURE DRAFT GAMES THREAD - 2/9/2025 

Post#20 » by durantbird » Fri Feb 28, 2025 4:36 pm

Franchise Pairs by Common Theme:

Hawks & Pelicans (birds)

Timberwolves & Grizzlies (forest beasts)

Heat & Suns (fire & heat)

Magic & Wizards (fantasy & magic)

Spurs & Mavericks (cowboys & the Wild West)

Pacers & Pistons (racing & automotive)

Rockets & Clippers (fast-moving vehicles)

76ers & Nuggets (historical events)

Warriors & Cavaliers (fighters & nobility)

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