2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 7 - It’s about to go down

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Super bowl flu

Ducking Mitchell and Wiggins

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I’m a fan of Herros game, I’m just not a fan of his game as a primary nor secondary option. He just doesn’t have enough handles nor creation ability to do it for me, nor does he have the defense to round out his deficiencies on the offensive end.

I think his current level of play is his ceiling. Although he may be more talented, I see him in the mold of Lou Williams, Eric Gordon, J Clarkson, Jason Terry, Ginobilli. I see elite scoring role player.

I think if the Heat ever have the chance to unload him for a legitimate primary option, they’ll do it.

He’s gone the second Ant comes available

[heater4life]

I’m a fan of Herros game, I’m just not a fan of his game as a primary nor secondary option. He just doesn’t have enough handles nor creation ability to do it for me, nor does he have the defense to round out his deficiencies on the offensive end.

I think his current level of play is his ceiling. Although he may be more talented, I see him in the mold of Lou Williams, Eric Gordon, J Clarkson, Jason Terry, Ginobilli. I see elite scoring role player.

I think if the Heat ever have the chance to unload him for a legitimate primary option, they’ll do it.

He’s gone the second Ant comes available

Or if they’re able to land Luka in 26, they use Herro to fill out the roster

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Get this kid on some Prilosec geez

[wadenation305]

We're not getting Luka. The Lakers can still give him 340 mil over 5 vs 250 over 4 from anyone else. That's a 90 Mil difference. These guys are always going to go for the bigger number. If he thinks about leaving, he will sign the contract first and then demand a trade. At that point the Lakers got him for pennies on the dollar but will want the entire family fortune for him. Just like housing now days.

[fishfuego.]

Herro is going nowhere.
The likes of Wiggins, JJJ, Duncan, and just about anyone with the exclusion of Bam, Ware, will be offered before hand, and young Jovic being a twist my arm last alternative IMO.
The Heat values Herro more than many fans in the Heat’s fan-hood space.

[Kobewade11]

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Get this kid on some Prilosec geez

What does this mf be eating?

[jbsays]

Are the new guys playing tonight?

[EMC5466]

Are the new guys playing tonight?

Yes.

[Umbooki]

Nothing is guaranteed nowadays (except for AD getting hurt, apparently), but I don’t see Luka leaving LA. Hell, I’m not even sure if LeBron and Klutch can give him the boot if they wanted to. The Lakers got their shiny new toy for the next decade.

We gotta get one of Trae or KD. Maybe look to Ant if you’re feeling frisky.

[twix2500]

Are the new guys playing tonight?

Yes but Herro has gas so he may call out today.

[jbsays]

Are the new guys playing tonight?

Yes but Herro has gas so he may call out today.

It will be hard to stomach the offense without Herro.

[batterybro42]

Herro is going nowhere.
The likes of Wiggins, JJJ, Duncan, and just about anyone with the exclusion of Bam, Ware, will be offered before hand, and young Jovic being a twist my arm last alternative IMO.
The Heat values Herro more than many fans in the Heat’s fan-hood space.

I went go game 3 of the Boston series last year, came into town a day early and stayed across the street. Went to go check out the official team store. At the time I figured Herro was for sure getting moved that summer. Go to the store it almost all Herro gear could barely find and Jimmy stuff, all promotional things geared to Herro, I thought I had walked into some alternative reality where he was Miami's franchise player and just nobody told me. It was so odd that I really thought about it at the time, and here we are.

[SA37]

Spoiler:

I think the thing about Trae is that he is this unbelievable shooter, yet has a career 35.3% 3 point percentage, and 34.0% this year. His best year was 38.2%. Not counting Steph Curry's 5 game 19-20 season where he shot 24.5%, his worst 3 point shooting season was 38.0%, and basically every other year has been in the 40+%. And on way better volume. So you feel like you are getting Steph, yet he is pretty inefficient.

He rarely has an eFG >50% (weirdly he alternates each year between under and over), though he does get to the line a lot.

But then obviously there is the playmaking, though he is extremely heliocentric. We do have the right kind of guys for him in Bam and Ware as lob threats, and Wiggins and Herro as shooters to make more space, plus the other guys.

I think I would be more excited if:
1. His face wasn't so punchable
2. His offense was highly efficient to make up for the lack of defense.

If you have 2 guys like Herro and Trae, and they are efficient 3 point shooters and scorers on one end, but turnstiles on the other end, but the opposition is trading their 2's for our 3's, then I could see the appeal, but I think the issue with Trae is I don't know that he puts out more on the offensive end than what he gives up on the defensive end.

Like if he shot 40%+ from three, I'd be much more intrigued.

3. He's got the gait and frail build of an 80-year-old.

Young is a very skillful player, but it's hard to see his skills translating any better in Miami (or elsewhere) than they have in Atlanta. I think there is a similar case to be made for a guy like LaMelo Ball. Endless skill, entertainment value, and playmaking, but it just doesn't translate to winning basketball. Very Iverson-esque.

I see some of that with Herro, and I think Miami would be better off if it had a pass-first, defense-oriented point guard to get Herro off the ball. Jrue Holiday, FVV (although his shooting % are atrocious), Mike Conley...etc someone in that mold. Basically what Miami was hoping to get with Lowry.

My expectation is M Smart will be bought out before the start of next season and Miami will bring him in to try to play this role, although he doesn't really have the shooting or point guard skills to be optimal.

I would do bad things to get Lamelo Ball to be here. That to me is a guy who is simply just not being Coached, but he would not buck it if he was due to his upbringing. In Charlotte Lamelo is allowed to do whatever it is he wants, and he is 23 years old and still immature. He needs to be in a grown up organization, that calls him out for doing dumb stuff. I think he has the potential to be an elite defender, and a high level creator/facilitator, but he needs to be in an environment where that can happen.

Guys that I want and would keep an eye on moving forward

Edwards
Ball
Luka

I think there is merit depending on how the rest of this year goes, and the prospects we have this summer of grabbing one of those 3 via trade of trying to get KD in here for a one year rental run. He will be demanding a trade this summer.

Yeah, I don't get the "obsession" with either Ball brother. At least LaMelo is producing at an all-star level. I just don't think his game translates to winning basketball. He's still young, so we'll have to wait and see.

Luka and Edwards aren't going anywhere.

It's hard for me to imagine Miami will not re-visit the Durant trade idea, especially if somehow Miami ends up with a lotto pick and the GS pick conveys. I don't see Miami drafting 2 rookies and being content to just bring them in. If Durant makes it clear he wants to go to Miami, the price Phoenix can demand for Durant will drop considerably from what they were asking for at the deadline since he'll be a FA after next season.

Adebayo / Ware
Wiggins / Jovic
Durant / Anderson
Herro / Highsmith
Smart? / Mitchell?

[SA37]

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Super bowl flu

Super Bowl orgy.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Yea there’s no way Dallas trades Luka or even lets him walk, he’s definitely signing that supermax

[greg4012]

We're not getting Luka. The Lakers can still give him 340 mil over 5 vs 250 over 4 from anyone else. That's a 90 Mil difference. These guys are always going to go for the bigger number. If he thinks about leaving, he will sign the contract first and then demand a trade. At that point the Lakers got him for pennies on the dollar but will want the entire family fortune for him. Just like housing now days.

Luka is no longer eligible for the supermax (it would have been 5 years, $345M with Dallas).

I'd pretty confidently bet that Luka Doncic is going to opt for a contract that gives him the option to be a free agent in 2028 as that is when he will be eligible to sign a new contract at "Supermax levels" (35% of cap) due to accruing 10 years in the NBA.

Whether Luka extends with LA now or waits until 2026 free agency to sign a contract, I do not expect that contract to be any longer than 2 years with a 3rd year player option (that he will opt out of for 2028 free agency).

When a player is the caliber of Luka and still in his 20s, the longest contract isn't the driving factor if its not associated with higher $. It's keeping optionality open while being able to maximize earnings.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Mitchell with the starters at shootaround again

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Are the new guys playing tonight?

Yes but Herro has gas so he may call out today.

It will be hard to stomach the offense without Herro.

Been hard to stomach his offense recently. Hopefully he plays but if not maybe a night off will help

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Imagine if we would’ve traded Bam before last season for a guy who’s career is about to be over