Super Bowl LIX - Eagles wins 40-22

[azcatz11]

Also, after the big 4 (Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen), I'll take Hurts as the #5 QB.

I wouldn't take him over Daniels, Kyler, Herbert, or Stroud. I would say he's top 10.

I would take him over Kyler. Kyler's not a winner. He shrinks in big moments. Hell, I'd take Geno over Kyler.

Hurts is the opposite of Murray. Hurts is a leader of men and has such a better temperament. Murray is like a child. And yes, that matters. Murray is like Trae Young.

[ITYSL]

I was rooting for the Eagles but wish it was a more competitive game.

Mahomes was getting destroyed by that Eagles' D-line but he also had a very bad game. One thing I notice about Mahomes is it does not seem like he reads the defense pre-snap as much as some of the greats like Manning and Brady. You don't see him going up to the line of scrimmage and adjusting coverages as much. Granted, there is only so much you can do when the Eagles' 4-man front was getting pressure without blitzing. It's hard to tell without seeing the all-22, but my guess is that some options were available earlier in the plays, but Mahomes sometimes has a tendency to hold onto the ball too long. Part of the downside of being so good at evading the rush is in not taking a good option early when it is available, with the mindset that a better opportunity will open up later and you can buy that time with your feet.

Either way, all credit to the Eagles on last night's game. Dominant defense from the D-line to the secondary. Hurts stepped up when he needed to, particularly seeing as the Chiefs D's No. 1 goal was stopping Saquon and they did that successfully. He's definitely in that 2nd tier for me behind Mahomes, Allen and Jackson; and has potential to move up.

[therealbig3]

I think taking playoffs into account, Mahomes is better than Rodgers and Manning. They have some embarrassing playoff moments on their resumes too. Mahomes at least has been far more successful and has played better as an individual than either of them in the playoffs.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Also, after the big 4 (Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen), I'll take Hurts as the #5 QB.

I wouldn't take him over Daniels, Kyler, Herbert, or Stroud. I would say he's top 10.

I get Daniels and CJ are great young talents but let's pump the brakes and let's see what they do next year at least Daniels. Remember people were hyping up both Purdy and Love as MVP candidates then you had the Lawrence and Tua hype trains. Hurts is at worst top 5. Granted he's not going to give you 35+ passing TDS. What he's going to give is you can't teach is heart, a winner and IQ. Can you honestly say if Philly had Murray in this post season Philly wins the way they did or even beats Mahomes? If you say yes your a damn liar or Kyler Murray.

[Dr Positivity]

Hurts has it easier with the best offensive line in the league, best running back and talented receivers.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Hurts has it easier with the best offensive line in the league, best running back and talented receivers.

I get that but you can't just insert any random QB and get the same or better productivity. What Hurts did this playoff run just look at his playoff numbers. Plus he's a year younger than Kyler. Right now there's only three to four quarterbacks that Philadelphia takes over Jalen Hurts. Mahomes, Burrow, Josh Allen or Lamar. I get that Jayden Daniels and CJ Stroud have that high upside potential as young quarterbacks but Jalen Hurts gives them chemistry with the team already in play is signed to a very reasonable contract in terms of a cap hit. If Arizona offered Philly Murray for Jalen 1 for 1 Philly easily says no. Like some ranking sites have Bo Nix, Stafford, Darnold, Goff and Baker Mayfield ranked ahead of Hurts


https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/jalen-hurts-career-postseason-stats

[therealbig3]

Also, after the big 4 (Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen), I'll take Hurts as the #5 QB.

I wouldn't take him over Daniels, Kyler, Herbert, or Stroud. I would say he's top 10.

He's outplayed every single one of those guys in the playoffs.

I still don't understand the Herbert hype. He's made the playoffs twice in 5 seasons, lost both times, and this last time was an embarrassment. And the first loss was a blown 27-0 lead to Lawrence and the Jaguars.

It's funny how some guys just don't get scrutiny at all, and others get nothing but, despite being wildly more successful and not falling flat on their face in big games.

[therealbig3]

Hurts has it easier with the best offensive line in the league, best running back and talented receivers.

It's true, Philly has a ton of talent to surround Hurts with, but you still have to perform. And even if these other QBs don't have the same talent around them, they still have good teams and they just haven't individually performed well.

[therealbig3]

Also, after the big 4 (Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen), I'll take Hurts as the #5 QB.

He's game reminds me of Russ. I still think he holds onto the ball too long at times. Which he's able to get away with because of that offensive line. Also, not a great pocket passer. But he does the little things. Is surrounded by a great roster. Credit to Howie Roseman. He's probably the best GM in the league.

He's 10x the leader and teammate that Russ was though.

[Cactus Jack]

Also, after the big 4 (Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen), I'll take Hurts as the #5 QB.

He's game reminds me of Russ. I still think he holds onto the ball too long at times. Which he's able to get away with because of that offensive line. Also, not a great pocket passer. But he does the little things. Is surrounded by a great roster. Credit to Howie Roseman. He's probably the best GM in the league.

He's 10x the leader and teammate that Russ was though.

He's more likeable than Russ for sure. But he's basically a younger version of him in my eyes. They we're both overlooked coming out of college. He's not going to put up a ton of crazy numbers. But he'll win a ton of games. Russ like Jalen, was a great fit in Seattle early on in his career. He had a great supporting cast around him & they won a lot because of it.

[GeorgeSears]

Hurts has it easier with the best offensive line in the league, best running back and talented receivers.

I get that but you can't just insert any random QB and get tyre same or better productivity. What Hurts did this playoff run just look at his playoff numbers. Plus he's a year younger than Kyler. Right now there's only three to four quarterbacks that Philadelphia takes over Jalen Hurts. Mahomes, Burrow, Josh Allen or Lamar. I get that Jayden Daniels and CJ Stroud have that high upside potential as young quarterbacks but Jalen Hurts gives them chemistry with the team already in play is signed to a very reasonable contract in terms of a cap hit. If Arizona offered Philly Murray for Jalen 1 for 1 Philly easily says no. Like some ranking sites have Bo Nix, Stafford, Darnold, Goff and Baker Mayfield ranked ahead of Hurts


https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/jalen-hurts-career-postseason-stats

He's a perfect system QB for the Eagles system.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Hurts has it easier with the best offensive line in the league, best running back and talented receivers.

I get that but you can't just insert any random QB and get tyre same or better productivity. What Hurts did this playoff run just look at his playoff numbers. Plus he's a year younger than Kyler. Right now there's only three to four quarterbacks that Philadelphia takes over Jalen Hurts. Mahomes, Burrow, Josh Allen or Lamar. I get that Jayden Daniels and CJ Stroud have that high upside potential as young quarterbacks but Jalen Hurts gives them chemistry with the team already in play is signed to a very reasonable contract in terms of a cap hit. If Arizona offered Philly Murray for Jalen 1 for 1 Philly easily says no. Like some ranking sites have Bo Nix, Stafford, Darnold, Goff and Baker Mayfield ranked ahead of Hurts


https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/jalen-hurts-career-postseason-stats

He's a perfect system QB for the Eagles system.

Explain to me how he's a system quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles system when they've had three different offensive coordinators in three different years! Doug Nussmeier also join this team during this year as their quarterback coach

[LAKESHOW]

First things First with KC Chiefs Rah Rah boy, Nick Wright was Hilarious

[hermes]

so what was the best commercial?

[Mr B]

I get that but you can't just insert any random QB and get tyre same or better productivity. What Hurts did this playoff run just look at his playoff numbers. Plus he's a year younger than Kyler. Right now there's only three to four quarterbacks that Philadelphia takes over Jalen Hurts. Mahomes, Burrow, Josh Allen or Lamar. I get that Jayden Daniels and CJ Stroud have that high upside potential as young quarterbacks but Jalen Hurts gives them chemistry with the team already in play is signed to a very reasonable contract in terms of a cap hit. If Arizona offered Philly Murray for Jalen 1 for 1 Philly easily says no. Like some ranking sites have Bo Nix, Stafford, Darnold, Goff and Baker Mayfield ranked ahead of Hurts


https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/jalen-hurts-career-postseason-stats

He's a perfect system QB for the Eagles system.

Explain to me how he's a system quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles system when they've had three different offensive coordinators in three different years! Doug Nussmeier also join this team during this year as their quarterback coach

I think he meant bus driver.

[QB_Eagles]

so what was the best commercial?

The anti-racism ad where a white CB scored a pick six in the Super Bowl.

[wco81]

Also, Mahomes is awesome, he’s still a 3x champ and a 2x MVP, with maybe the greatest peak of all time, but the man has been blown out in 2 SBs already. Say what you want about Brady, but he always gave his team a fighting chance. All 3 of his SB losses were one possession games. I think there’s something to be said for that. Mahomes collapsed and looked shook, just like he did against the Bucs. Brady never got shook, there were times he didn’t play well, but he rarely compounded his mistakes and would more often than not lead a successful drive when his team needed it if they were down. Mahomes had a chance to cut the lead to 17-7 before half time and get the ball first to start the second half, and instead throws a terrible pick that leads to a TD. Game over at that point. Right after he threw a pick 6 the drive before.

Brady had a better supporting cast because he took way below market salaries to help the rest of the team. Mahomes has a big contract and so do some players like Chris Jones. So they were playing some sub-average players on the OL.

That said, he threw both picks deep in his own territory so it's questionable play calling. Only 7 runs so not keeping the Eagles honest.

[Mr B]

so what was the best commercial?

“No my grill doesn’t cut grass, my smoker mows my lawn”. The commercials with Shane Gillis and Post Malone were pretty funny.

[Mr B]

so what was the best commercial?

The anti-racism ad where a white CB scored a pick six in the Super Bowl.

Philly still employing their DEI program.

[wco81]

I get that but you can't just insert any random QB and get tyre same or better productivity. What Hurts did this playoff run just look at his playoff numbers. Plus he's a year younger than Kyler. Right now there's only three to four quarterbacks that Philadelphia takes over Jalen Hurts. Mahomes, Burrow, Josh Allen or Lamar. I get that Jayden Daniels and CJ Stroud have that high upside potential as young quarterbacks but Jalen Hurts gives them chemistry with the team already in play is signed to a very reasonable contract in terms of a cap hit. If Arizona offered Philly Murray for Jalen 1 for 1 Philly easily says no. Like some ranking sites have Bo Nix, Stafford, Darnold, Goff and Baker Mayfield ranked ahead of Hurts


https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/jalen-hurts-career-postseason-stats

He's a perfect system QB for the Eagles system.

Explain to me how he's a system quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles system when they've had three different offensive coordinators in three different years! Doug Nussmeier also join this team during this year as their quarterback coach

Because the system is the roster construction, the philosophy behind it, not whatever offense an OC brings.