2024-2025 Regular Season Game 55: Atlanta Hawks (25-28) at Orlando Magic (26-28) - 7pm

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Supporting Cast last 5 games stats
Gary Harris: 1pt/1reb/1ast
Anthony black: 10pt/3ast/2reb
Tristan Da silva: 6pt/2reb/1ast
Jonathan isaac: 4pt/5reb/1stl
Wendell Carter: 9pts/5reb/3ast

Weltman just needs 6 more first round picks in the top 10 and he can round out the roster.

How else can you do it without trades or free agency?

[Bensational]

Supporting Cast last 5 games stats
Gary Harris: 1pt/1reb/1ast
Anthony black: 10pt/3ast/2reb
Tristan Da silva: 6pt/2reb/1ast
Jonathan isaac: 4pt/5reb/1stl
Wendell Carter: 9pts/5reb/3ast

Probably just my bias, but those are decent numbers for AB given how raw he still is. I’m sure the efficiency isn’t very good but maybe the 8-9 game skewed his scoring numbers?

[SOUL]

In a weird way, the more they lose, the less expectations I have upon them, therefore the results don't really hurt. The same grit and solid play and depth from continuity had benefited us when we stood afloat, but now it makes us way too comfortable being capped offensively and gives us no ceiling this season for anything much higher than what we've seen.

FO fell in love with a bunch of JAGs. It is what it is, but you can't have 10-11 guys who are JAGs and be considered a serious threat.

[89Magicfan]

We’re slotted for the 11th pick in the lotto right now. Let that sink in.

Hawks won the lotto from the 11th seed last season. Let that sink in.

Lotto pick + Den pick + KCP + WCJ for [insert guard]

Nah. Jeff is salivating at possibly drafting a project to evaluate.

[Optimus_Steel]

Team is just not that good. At least Franz took a huge step forward this year.

Ive been saying for a while this is a lottery team. Solid playoff teams take care of the details, show urgency, intangibles, we have none of that. Going thru the motions. A ruined season. Just when you start getting excited again the same old Magic returns

Agree completely. And I agree with just about everyone about what we need. But the fact that they look like a lottery team is why I ultimately just did not care if they made a move at the deadline. Now if they don't make changes in the summer I will have my pitchfork as well.

We have great top pieces but we are an incomplete, inefficient, unbalanced team and its pretty clear what we need. The summer is critical for major structural changes, if this is pretty much the same team in training camp the mutiny is coming…

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[JF5]

You aren’t having a conversation.

You are just adding random remarks like I don’t know what I’m talking about. I do.

I’ve watched every game this season watching Franz and Paolo iso to the basket 99% of the time. I’m not randomly coming to this conclusion to piss people off. There is no functional offense being run here.

So either Jalen Suggs is 100% the key to this team winning basketball games or Tim Legler is correct that they aren’t utilizing their roster around their elite scorers correctly.

There’s no way you watched this game, and the last 5-6 possessions on offense, and came away with the idea that Mosely was drawing **** up on the sideline. He’s not. And that’s not really entirely an indictment of him. It’s the staff. It’s the personnel. It’s the Front Office also.

I like messing with you because it's clear you never read post that I or others specifically write in any other threads about our views of a team. I literally agreed that this offense is terrible, lol.

I've complained about it before Paolo went down the first time because it never involved other players moving off the ball, cutting, or having any secondary movements

You essentially like only getting your point across without reading which isn't good for a context of a conversation.

Huh?

You literally responded to a post asking me to do Mosely's job after I point out there is zero offense.

Then said I don't know what Im ever talking about?
But now you concede on the slightest pushback and say that you essentially agree, but you are just messing with me.

Write something worth reading and maybe I'll remember it more than you writing a 9 paragraph essay talking about the merits of Wendell Carter in the middle of a November game thread.

I find this odd from a guy who was and still is clamoring for Goga and Black to be starters for the past 2 seasons next to Franz and Banchero even though those fits never made complete sense.

I can easily say Fultz isn't right for the team or Wendell doesn't fit what this team needs offensively anymore given poorly he's regressed on that side of the ball.

I have a track record of saying I'm wrong or incorrect. You just stay stuck your guns and get angry at anyone even if the visuals and the stats say different. Hell I don't think we've much of a Goga and Black lineup because of how bad it is offensively.

[Idiosyncratic]

In a weird way, the more they lose, the less expectations I have upon them, therefore the results don't really hurt. The same grit and solid play and depth from continuity had benefited us when we stood afloat, but now it makes us way too comfortable being capped offensively and gives us no ceiling this season for anything much higher than what we've seen.

FO fell in love with a bunch of JAGs. It is what it is, but you can't have 10-11 guys who are JAGs and be considered a serious threat.

Agree. Also helps if you were like me and never really expected much to begin with lol.

It was fun improving with the same group of tight-knit guys, but now it is clear they have hit a wall and the real work starts. Yes some people here are correct that they should have moved on from some of them already and did things differently, but here we are now, we can't go back. Time to get creative and turn some of the roster over.

[Optimus_Steel]

What is the point of Gary Harris being on this roster?

[KillMonger]

Suggs is really the heart and soul of the team man, at this point it's hard to deny......the last time we played with crazy energy was the last time he was playing.....it's just different without suggs setting the tone....the break is much needed hopefully we'll have him back afterwards

[OnlyFranz22]

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Wow imagine having somebody who can get a bucket off the bench…..

Hell or even giving a guy a chance to get a bucket off the bench.

Gross

[OnlyFranz22]

What is the point of Gary Harris being on this roster?

Because him Caleb and Jett are better than Mac.

Damn Mac must be a TERRIBLE teammate not to get a chance lmao. 26 years old, same size as Cole, GLeague MVP last year….

Yet he gets zero run when this team has sucked since December ? lol makes no sense

[basketballRob]

I like messing with you because it's clear you never read post that I or others specifically write in any other threads about our views of a team. I literally agreed that this offense is terrible, lol.

I've complained about it before Paolo went down the first time because it never involved other players moving off the ball, cutting, or having any secondary movements

You essentially like only getting your point across without reading which isn't good for a context of a conversation.

Huh?

You literally responded to a post asking me to do Mosely's job after I point out there is zero offense.

Then said I don't know what Im ever talking about?
But now you concede on the slightest pushback and say that you essentially agree, but you are just messing with me.

Write something worth reading and maybe I'll remember it more than you writing a 9 paragraph essay talking about the merits of Wendell Carter in the middle of a November game thread.

I find this odd from a guy who was and still is clamoring for Goga and Black to be starters for the past 2 seasons next to Franz and Banchero even though those fits never made complete sense.

I can easily say Fultz isn't right for the team or Wendell doesn't fit what this team needs offensively anymore given poorly he's regressed on that side of the ball.

I have a track record of saying I'm wrong or incorrect. You just stay stuck your guns and get angry at anyone even if the visuals and the stats say different. Hell I don't think we've much of a Goga and Black lineup because of how bad it is offensively.

Good point. The last couple of games it's mostly been AB, KCP, Franz, Paolo, and Black.

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[OrlChamps2030]

What is the point of Gary Harris being on this roster?

He’s involved in the money laundering scheme connected to the DeVos family and guys who played their collegiate basketball in the state of Michigan

[KillMonger]

one player is making 66 million....the other 6 million....which one is which?

[OnlyFranz22]

It’s sad, I don’t even watch the games anymore. I follow on the apps and catch up on the games when I have a chance.

If Mac got called up and actually had significant minutes I would tune in.

That guy is getting screwed over. He has done everything he can in G League. Kept the slam dunk contest off life support the last two years.

Baffling

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I like messing with you because it's clear you never read post that I or others specifically write in any other threads about our views of a team. I literally agreed that this offense is terrible, lol.

I've complained about it before Paolo went down the first time because it never involved other players moving off the ball, cutting, or having any secondary movements

You essentially like only getting your point across without reading which isn't good for a context of a conversation.

Huh?

You literally responded to a post asking me to do Mosely's job after I point out there is zero offense.

Then said I don't know what Im ever talking about?
But now you concede on the slightest pushback and say that you essentially agree, but you are just messing with me.

Write something worth reading and maybe I'll remember it more than you writing a 9 paragraph essay talking about the merits of Wendell Carter in the middle of a November game thread.

I find this odd from a guy who was and still is clamoring for Goga and Black to be starters for the past 2 seasons next to Franz and Banchero even though those fits never made complete sense.

I can easily say Fultz isn't right for the team or Wendell doesn't fit what this team needs offensively anymore given poorly he's regressed on that side of the ball.

I have a track record of saying I'm wrong or incorrect. You just stay stuck your guns and get angry at anyone even if the visuals and the stats say different. Hell I don't think we've much of a Goga and Black lineup because of how bad it is offensively.

I would never advocate for Black to be a starter on this team. I publicly said he makes no sense next to Paolo and Franz given their overlapping skill sets. If AB starts shooting a high % on volume or starts setting the table for them I’ll admit I was wrong.

At this point in the season they are better off just playing him to boost trade value. KCP is inconsequential from game to game.

Goga is the best Center on this team and has been for going on 2 seasons. It really isn’t an argument.

Visuals and stats? I don’t need to dive into basketball reference and advanced metrics to tell me what my eyes are seeing. I get mad when people make disingenuous arguments based on some hill they chose to die on 5 years ago.

The offense on this team is an afterthought from the FO to the coaching staff. It’s like they became complacent after two drafts and gave up addressing anything from roster decisions to playcalling.

[eyriq]

Well, that loss was unfortunate

[rcklsscognition]

We cannot generate offense for anyone. Franz gets his own and really is an impressive player, Paolo bullies for his, but no one else moves and the offense is garbage. Bring the ball up in 8 seconds, dribble around for 8 more, then iso something. Disgusting.

The JI sub was interesting in it stopped Trae, but we didn’t run another big with him and gave up like a thousand layups and boards. Questionable coaching.

Offensive we can’t get anyone an open look. I think one AB and WCJ pick and roll led to a good play.

Worst thing is we are 3 games out of 6th but just as easily could lose to the Bulls in the play in.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

We cannot generate offense for anyone. Franz gets his own and really is an impressive player, Paolo bullies for his, but no one else moves and the offense is garbage. Bring the ball up in 8 seconds, dribble around for 8 more, then iso something. Disgusting.

The JI sub was interesting in it stopped Trae, but we didn’t run another big with him and gave up like a thousand layups and boards. Questionable coaching.

Offensive we can’t get anyone an open look. I think one AB and WCJ pick and roll led to a good play.

Worst thing is we are 3 games out of 6th but just as easily could lose to the Bulls in the play in.

A vet point guard can help with that.