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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Giannis out until after the break 

Post#1121 » by crowhead76 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:39 pm

With the addition of KPJ I wonder if we see Rollins get a chance to start next to Dame.
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Post#1122 » by Plossum » Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:59 pm

Our two man lineup data is somewhat interesting. Dame and Giannis I would classify as good with a +4.2 over a pretty decent sample.

But good things happen with Green on the court. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Giannis and Khris was our best two man combo: +11.5 in 342mins together. But after that it’s AJ and Midds, AJ and Dame, AJ and Giannis as our best two man combos.

We really need to start the Dairy and up his minutes to 30+. Good things happen with him on the floor and I don’t know why the brains trust is holding him back.
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Post#1123 » by drone3 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:02 pm

Dairy should be scoring at least 6 3s a game. This is purely a coaching thing.. He is more than capable
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Post#1124 » by Plossum » Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:06 pm

drone3 wrote:Dairy should be scoring at least 6 3s a game. This is purely a coaching thing.. He is more than capable

Agree. I always get the sense Doc plays him because he has to rather than wants to.
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Post#1125 » by Daver » Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:11 pm

crowhead76 wrote:With the addition of KPJ I wonder if we see Rollins get a chance to start next to Dame.




Not a chance though if doc csn start a no scoring dude like ajax next to dame for no apparent reason then i guess he could start rollins next to dame also again for no apparent reason
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Post#1126 » by Milbucks96 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:17 pm

Plossum wrote:Our two man lineup data is somewhat interesting. Dame and Giannis I would classify as good with a +4.2 over a pretty decent sample.

But good things happen with Green on the court. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Giannis and Khris was our best two man combo: +11.5 in 342mins together. But after that it’s AJ and Midds, AJ and Dame, AJ and Giannis as our best two man combos.

We really need to start the Dairy and up his minutes to 30+. Good things happen with him on the floor and I don’t know why the brains trust is holding him back.

He unlocks a lot, he’s just a solid player with his elite shooting and good perimeter defense.
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Post#1127 » by tedbrogen » Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:30 pm

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Plossum wrote:Our two man lineup data is somewhat interesting. Dame and Giannis I would classify as good with a +4.2 over a pretty decent sample.

But good things happen with Green on the court. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Giannis and Khris was our best two man combo: +11.5 in 342mins together. But after that it’s AJ and Midds, AJ and Dame, AJ and Giannis as our best two man combos.

We really need to start the Dairy and up his minutes to 30+. Good things happen with him on the floor and I don’t know why the brains trust is holding him back.

He unlocks a lot, he’s just a solid player with his elite shooting and good perimeter defense.


This so much. He’s the best combo of elite shooting and perimeter defense of all the guards, and it’s not even close. He has a quick, high release on his shot. He’s already got legit shot gravity as teams absolutely do not want to leave him open and know he’s very difficult to bother with a closeout. He’s starting to figure out how to attack close outs and foul bait with shot fakes. He plays physical D and generally stays in front of his man. Last night he got switched into Embiid and he drew an offensive foul on Embiid.

He just keeps getting better at every aspect of basketball. Whatever his ceiling is, he will absolutely reach it. Feed him as many minutes as he can handle. Take those minutes from Ajax and Prince.
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Post#1128 » by yb90 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:36 pm

Without looking at his stats. How many minutes should AJ be playing a game?
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Post#1129 » by drone3 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:27 am

yb90 wrote:Without looking at his stats. How many minutes should AJ be playing a game?
Ajax or Dairy?
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Post#1130 » by tedbrogen » Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:27 am

yb90 wrote:Without looking at his stats. How many minutes should AJ be playing a game?


30. More if he can handle it. Full time starting SG minutes as long as it doesn’t cause so much fatigue that he loses his legs. He should probably be fourth in minutes on the team after Giannis, Dame, Kuz, in my opinion.

Brook should be 20-25 max and sometimes less depending on matchups. Prince should be 15-20 max, probably less. Ajax should be 10-15 minutes when they need energy or need a pest, less when they clearly have energy (like last night). When Trent is on a heater, feed him as many minutes as possible too. If he isn’t, pull him.
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Post#1131 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:31 am

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I mean, if you're looking for a reason beyond the obvious (Doc's lineups and offensive philosophy) then sorry, can't cheer on Giannis letting mid-rangers fly (yay most inefficient shot in basketball!) as he posts career highs in usage, shot attempts, etc. while having the worst FT efficiency of his career and then turn around and ask, "why isn't the offense better?"


I’ve come to the conclusion Giannis is who he is. And we live with his Westbrook tendencies because no one can coach it out of him. Thus it’s all about figuring out which players complement him best.
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Post#1132 » by ReginaldDwight » Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:32 am

yb90 wrote:Without looking at his stats. How many minutes should AJ be playing a game?

20 if hes hot you extend his shifts.
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Post#1133 » by yb90 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:42 am

drone3 wrote:
yb90 wrote:Without looking at his stats. How many minutes should AJ be playing a game?
Ajax or Dairy?

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Post#1134 » by jakecronus8 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 2:00 am

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Ron Swanson wrote:
I mean, if you're looking for a reason beyond the obvious (Doc's lineups and offensive philosophy) then sorry, can't cheer on Giannis letting mid-rangers fly (yay most inefficient shot in basketball!) as he posts career highs in usage, shot attempts, etc. while having the worst FT efficiency of his career and then turn around and ask, "why isn't the offense better?"


I’ve come to the conclusion Giannis is who he is. And we live with his Westbrook tendencies because no one can coach it out of him. Thus it’s all about figuring out which players complement him best.

I’m fine with all of this except the free throw garbage. I don’t understand why he won’t change things up.
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Post#1135 » by Neuromancer56 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 3:27 am

I can't believe I didn't want to trade Khris for Jimmy.
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Post#1136 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Feb 11, 2025 3:44 am

Neuromancer56 wrote:I can't believe I didn't want to trade Khris for Jimmy.

Heat didn't want Khris.
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Post#1137 » by soxperry » Tue Feb 11, 2025 3:48 am

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Neuromancer56 wrote:I can't believe I didn't want to trade Khris for Jimmy.

Heat didn't want Khris.


I dont that thats relevant to the thesis of his post.

I think everyone got a reminder of how impactful Butler can be even on a bad shooting night.
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Post#1138 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:20 am

I feel like if we included the 2031 1st then Jimmy would be a Buck right now. You'll never convince me otherwise. It is what it is though, and the team felt like it was better to prioritize for salary flexibility in the off-season. I would have just gone for it and taken the 1.5 year Jimmy window.
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Post#1139 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:28 am

Horst with an interview in the JS. I'd send out a link, but this site sucks and you still can't embed Bluesky.
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Post#1140 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:37 am

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2025/02/10/milwaukee-bucks-gm-jon-horst-trading-khris-middleton-kyle-kuzma-kevin-porter/78393707007/

One part. Horst asked if he talked to Giannis before making the trade

Horst: It didn't happen.

I think he and I would say that we've grown in this area and you learn, you go through a lot of this stuff together and you do it in different ways. And that's a hundred percent honest truth.


So contrary, I know there was a couple people that put out he stamped of approval and whatever. Well the same people put that out thought we were trading for a player we had no interest in trading for. So, their accuracy level is very low.

Just for the record, I didn't talk to him about this. And that comes out of a career together, of going through transactions, understanding what he expects of us to run a franchise and do our jobs, what we expect of him to do his job. And he trusts. And it doesn't mean he agrees with it.

He would or would not have stamped it. I don't know. And I decided not to put him in that position. And we talked about this kind of going through some of the other big things.

This is the biggest thing, ever. And so that wouldn't have been fair in my opinion. I'm willing to live with him either agreeing or disagreeing with it and whatever the aftermath that is because it's my job. It's my job to analyze these things, generate them, make recommendations, have group discussions and make decisions. And this time around it wasn't the right thing to talk to him about it.


And I also have not talked to him about it afterwards yet. Don't need to. I don't want to ask him afterwards. Are you OK? It's a business, and my job's really hard a few times a year. His job's really hard every night.
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