Dalllas Mavericks sent a messags to rest of the superstars

[OnlyTheTruth]

Hey all,

I've been thinking about this Luka trade and while many think Lakers had a highway robbery, true but I cannot help that other GMs took notice of how Dallas handled Luka. Generational talent yes, but being out of shape, frequently injured, mediocre defense, Cry baby on the floor, is he really someone who you build a team around to win ? Which brings me to this question. If the Celtics fail to repeat or have poor playoff performance, and knowing Celtics salary cap, do you move Jaylen Brown ? What do you do.

[ConstableGeneva]

Jaylen Brown is not a superstar.

Anyway, no one is untouchable for the right price.

Easiest way for Cs to get under tax is to move one of their max contracts, so yes, I'd move JB for the right return as soon as this summer. If one of the new ownership's goals is to get under tax, that is. Holiday, White, or Porzingis won't get as much return as JB would.

[chrisab123]

Jaylen Brown is not a superstar.

Anyway, no one is untouchable for the right price.

Easiest way for Cs to get under tax is to move one of their max contracts, so yes, I'd move JB for the right return as soon as this summer. If one of the new ownership's goals is to get under tax, that is. Holiday, White, or Porzingis won't get as much return as JB would.

What do you define as a superstar in the NBA? I personally view Brown as a top 15 guy. So yeah debatable if you call him that at this point but you can also argue he’s definitely achieved more than most of the “superstars” in his age range. So if you’re looking for the best team to contend why would you trade a horse for two ponies? Or just dump a top 15 guy who is producing?

[ConstableGeneva]

Jaylen Brown is not a superstar.

Anyway, no one is untouchable for the right price.

Easiest way for Cs to get under tax is to move one of their max contracts, so yes, I'd move JB for the right return as soon as this summer. If one of the new ownership's goals is to get under tax, that is. Holiday, White, or Porzingis won't get as much return as JB would.

What do you define as a superstar in the NBA? I personally view Brown as a top 15 guy. So yeah debatable if you call him that at this point but you can also argue he’s definitely achieved more than most of the “superstars” in his age range. So if you’re looking for the best team to contend why would you trade a horse for two ponies? Or just dump a top 15 guy who is producing?

If the owners want the best team to contend, they wouldn't break up a championship team.

JB is still producing because he's being given the usage and shots of a top 1 or top 2 guy. His oncourt impact doesn't match that of a max player. (Maybe that changes in the postseason.) You can get similar production from someone who's getting paid less or a combination of tier 3 players. Brad just needs to find the right deal to achieve both goals -- get under tax and still be a contender.

If they just want to get under the 2nd apron, that's easy to do without having to deal JB. But if they want to avoid the more prohibitive repeater tax, JB would be the most likely candidate to get dealt or two of White/KP/Holiday. My personal preference would be the former.

[hugepatsfan]

What exactly is the connection to the Luka trade here? I don’t get it.

[bisme37]

What exactly is the connection to the Luka trade here? I don’t get it.

Me either.

Jaylen is already signed and not fat and plays defense and is the reigning Finals MVP.

Luka was due to sign the largest contract in NBA history in June, and is chronically out of shape and injured, and refuses to play defense despite the Mavs being on his ass about it for years, and is not the Finals MVP.

Vastly different players with different contractual situations and relationships with their team.

[LewisnotMiller]

Jaylen and Luka are more opposite than comparative.
Regardless, trading Luka is one thing. But trading him for less than a king's ransom?? Eeesh. Hard to defend that.

[ThePigeon]

Luka trade has more to do with the Las Vegas NBA franchise and the Nike brand than his weight or max contract
LaQuin and Edelson want an NBA team in Vegas. They started by dismantling Dallas
Luka moving to LA greatly helps the Nike brand

I would not be shocked if Luka refuses to extend in LA if a Vegas team is created (and is allowed to sign player to max contracts). It is a business controlled by business people after all

[playa-hater]

Jaylen and Luka are more opposite than comparative.
Regardless, trading Luka is one thing. But trading him for less than a king's ransom?? Eeesh. Hard to defend that.

This and just This ^ If anyone decides to trade any player for reasons known or perhaps unknown, Fine. But to not get the best value in return is Bad. To Not even attempt to get the Best Value in return is beyond Business negligent. Possibly corrupt. Nico, may have been the instigator of the "worst trade in History of Sports" but the Owners/Governors should be held to the Fire even more so.

[playa-hater]

Luka trade has more to do with the Las Vegas NBA franchise and the Nike brand than his weight or max contract
LaQuin and Edelson want an NBA team in Vegas. They started by dismantling Dallas
Luka moving to LA greatly helps the Nike brand

I would not be shocked if Luka refuses to extend in LA if a Vegas team is created (and is allowed to sign player to max contracts). It is a business controlled by business people after all

Perhaps that is/was the Goal of the Owners. But it seems like the "Cat is out of the Bag" and I just can't see how Adam Silver can let that happen now. It would be like Proving everything that happened is/was corrupt and he is/was in the Know.

Meanwhile an entire fan base gets termination in Dallas.

[Bob8]

What exactly is the connection to the Luka trade here? I don’t get it.

Me either.

Jaylen is already signed and not fat and plays defense and is the reigning Finals MVP.

Luka was due to sign the largest contract in NBA history in June, and is chronically out of shape and injured, and refuses to play defense despite the Mavs being on his ass about it for years, and is not the Finals MVP.

Vastly different players with different contractual situations and relationships with their team.

You wanted to say that the best scorer of the last season, who was averaging 34/9/10 and brought his team in the Finals was going to sign 70 mio per year. And you're not giving him max? Him being fat and doing all that is positive, persuade him to work and he's 40/15/15 player easily. Does anyone really believe that not in shape, lazy player can ever be 5x in a row in first All Nba team and average 34/9/10. Btw he played the most total minutes in Nba last year with the highest usage.

Davis said he will sign extension in Dallas and his last season is worth 62 mio, it's safe to say he won't get much less than Luka and he's 6 years older and far more injury prone. And far less marketable.

Luka will make you more than 350 mio easily, just watch what is going on in LA, he's money machine. Not giving supermax to global superstar is the stupidest argument ever.

Haters are really pathetic.

[ThePigeon]

Luka trade has more to do with the Las Vegas NBA franchise and the Nike brand than his weight or max contract
LaQuin and Edelson want an NBA team in Vegas. They started by dismantling Dallas
Luka moving to LA greatly helps the Nike brand

I would not be shocked if Luka refuses to extend in LA if a Vegas team is created (and is allowed to sign player to max contracts). It is a business controlled by business people after all

Perhaps that is/was the Goal of the Owners. But it seems like the "Cat is out of the Bag" and I just can't see how Adam Silver can let that happen now. It would be like Proving everything that happened is/was corrupt and he is/was in the Know.

Meanwhile an entire fan base gets termination in Dallas.

Of course Adam Silver was in the know. He maybe even suggested it
Just like the Gasol trade, the CP3 attempted trade, the Shaq trade
LA is the no 1 franchise to the NBA organization and it needs to be guarded and enhanced

WWE/WWF

[165bows]

What exactly is the connection to the Luka trade here? I don’t get it.

Me either.

Jaylen is already signed and not fat and plays defense and is the reigning Finals MVP.

Luka was due to sign the largest contract in NBA history in June, and is chronically out of shape and injured, and refuses to play defense despite the Mavs being on his ass about it for years, and is not the Finals MVP.

Vastly different players with different contractual situations and relationships with their team.

You wanted to say that the best scorer of the last season, who was averaging 34/9/10 and brought his team in the Finals was going to sign 70 mio per year. And you're not giving him max? Him being fat and doing all that is positive, persuade him to work and he's 40/15/15 player easily. Does anyone really believe that not in shape, lazy player can ever be 5x in a row in first All Nba team and average 34/9/10. Btw he played the most total minutes in Nba last year with the highest usage.

Davis said he will sign extension in Dallas and his last season is worth 62 mio, it's safe to say he won't get much less than Luka and he's 6 years older and far more injury prone. And far less marketable.

Luka will make you more than 350 mio easily, just watch what is going on in LA, he's money machine. Not giving supermax to global superstar is the stupidest argument ever.

Haters are really pathetic.

Wtf is this craziness

This is not true lol it was DDR Luka was 19th in minutes

[Bob8]

Me either.

Jaylen is already signed and not fat and plays defense and is the reigning Finals MVP.

Luka was due to sign the largest contract in NBA history in June, and is chronically out of shape and injured, and refuses to play defense despite the Mavs being on his ass about it for years, and is not the Finals MVP.

Vastly different players with different contractual situations and relationships with their team.

You wanted to say that the best scorer of the last season, who was averaging 34/9/10 and brought his team in the Finals was going to sign 70 mio per year. And you're not giving him max? Him being fat and doing all that is positive, persuade him to work and he's 40/15/15 player easily. Does anyone really believe that not in shape, lazy player can ever be 5x in a row in first All Nba team and average 34/9/10. Btw he played the most total minutes in Nba last year with the highest usage.

Davis said he will sign extension in Dallas and his last season is worth 62 mio, it's safe to say he won't get much less than Luka and he's 6 years older and far more injury prone. And far less marketable.

Luka will make you more than 350 mio easily, just watch what is going on in LA, he's money machine. Not giving supermax to global superstar is the stupidest argument ever.

Haters are really pathetic.

Wtf is this craziness

This is not true lol it was DDR Luka was 19th in minutes

RS and playoffs.

We know that fat, lazy, Luka with bad conditioning is averaging 34/9/10, if Mavs FO was not satisfied with that, I would imagine that they believe that slimmer and with great work ethic should average at least 45/15/15. They probably didn't trade him wanting 1 point and 1 rebound more.

Is really that difficult to understand that Luka had last year insane numbers, individual success being the best scorer in Nba and 3rd in MVP, and team success. Does that bode well with Nico's criticism? How many times were Mavs in Finals in their history? And the best part of that nonsense is that they probably won't make even playoffs this year. Should Nico trade everyone? Nico for sure should send himself in the China, in the middle of the night to survive streets of Dallas.

[165bows]

You wanted to say that the best scorer of the last season, who was averaging 34/9/10 and brought his team in the Finals was going to sign 70 mio per year. And you're not giving him max? Him being fat and doing all that is positive, persuade him to work and he's 40/15/15 player easily. Does anyone really believe that not in shape, lazy player can ever be 5x in a row in first All Nba team and average 34/9/10. Btw he played the most total minutes in Nba last year with the highest usage.

Davis said he will sign extension in Dallas and his last season is worth 62 mio, it's safe to say he won't get much less than Luka and he's 6 years older and far more injury prone. And far less marketable.

Luka will make you more than 350 mio easily, just watch what is going on in LA, he's money machine. Not giving supermax to global superstar is the stupidest argument ever.

Haters are really pathetic.

Wtf is this craziness

This is not true lol it was DDR Luka was 19th in minutes

RS and playoffs.

We know that fat, lazy, Luka with bad conditioning is averaging 34/9/10, if Mavs FO was not satisfied with that, I would imagine that they believe that slimmer and with great work ethic should average at least 45/15/15. They probably didn't trade him wanting 1 point and 1 rebound more.

Is really that difficult to understand that Luka had last year insane numbers, individual success being the best scorer in Nba and 3rd in MVP, and team success. Does that bode well with Nico's criticism? How many times were Mavs in Finals in their history? And the best part of that nonsense is that they probably won't make even playoffs this year. Should Nico trade everyone? Nico for sure should send himself in the China, in the middle of the night to survive streets of Dallas.

This is trash analysis he didn’t even play that many minutes and he was awful in the finals despite the entire media being in the bag for him the whole country could see he was fat and exhausted. He got punked by JB for goodness sakes.

[Bob8]

Wtf is this craziness

This is not true lol it was DDR Luka was 19th in minutes

RS and playoffs.

We know that fat, lazy, Luka with bad conditioning is averaging 34/9/10, if Mavs FO was not satisfied with that, I would imagine that they believe that slimmer and with great work ethic should average at least 45/15/15. They probably didn't trade him wanting 1 point and 1 rebound more.

Is really that difficult to understand that Luka had last year insane numbers, individual success being the best scorer in Nba and 3rd in MVP, and team success. Does that bode well with Nico's criticism? How many times were Mavs in Finals in their history? And the best part of that nonsense is that they probably won't make even playoffs this year. Should Nico trade everyone? Nico for sure should send himself in the China, in the middle of the night to survive streets of Dallas.

This is trash analysis he didn’t even play that many minutes and he was awful in the finals despite the entire media being in the bag for him the whole country could see he was fat and exhausted. He got punked by JB for goodness sakes.

Playoffs are not only Finals. Kyrie looked good in the Finals? How is still with the Mavs?

We're not talking about analysis, but about facts.

25 years old player averaged 34/9/10 in RS, won scoring title and was 3rd in MVP, brought underdogs in the Finals, where they lost against extremely good team, playing the most total minutes in RS and playoffs combined with the highest usage. That kind of player is traded 7 months later without knowing anything in the middle of the night, because he supposedly doesn't care enough about conditioning? And the best part, he was traded for 6 years older injury prone player, who might have already finished this season after playing 3Qs for Mavs.

[jmr07019]

I didn’t view the Luka trade as the abomination that most others did but this is ridiculous. Fans should be allowed to bring a sign voicing displeasure with management.

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[fallguy]

I don't see the connection between Luka and Jaylen either.

That said, I would happily build a team around Luka.

[165bows]

RS and playoffs.

We know that fat, lazy, Luka with bad conditioning is averaging 34/9/10, if Mavs FO was not satisfied with that, I would imagine that they believe that slimmer and with great work ethic should average at least 45/15/15. They probably didn't trade him wanting 1 point and 1 rebound more.

Is really that difficult to understand that Luka had last year insane numbers, individual success being the best scorer in Nba and 3rd in MVP, and team success. Does that bode well with Nico's criticism? How many times were Mavs in Finals in their history? And the best part of that nonsense is that they probably won't make even playoffs this year. Should Nico trade everyone? Nico for sure should send himself in the China, in the middle of the night to survive streets of Dallas.

This is trash analysis he didn’t even play that many minutes and he was awful in the finals despite the entire media being in the bag for him the whole country could see he was fat and exhausted. He got punked by JB for goodness sakes.

Playoffs are not only Finals. Kyrie looked good in the Finals? How is still with the Mavs?

We're not talking about analysis, but about facts.

25 years old player averaged 34/9/10 in RS, won scoring title and was 3rd in MVP, brought underdogs in the Finals, where they lost against extremely good team, playing the most total minutes in RS and playoffs combined with the highest usage. That kind of player is traded 7 months later without knowing anything in the middle of the night, because he supposedly doesn't care enough about conditioning? And the best part, he was trade for 6 years older injury prone player, who might have already finished this season after playing 3Qs for Mavs.

Why are you cackling??? I could care less about these posts and these prepubescent rants

[Bob8]

This is trash analysis he didn’t even play that many minutes and he was awful in the finals despite the entire media being in the bag for him the whole country could see he was fat and exhausted. He got punked by JB for goodness sakes.

Playoffs are not only Finals. Kyrie looked good in the Finals? How is still with the Mavs?

We're not talking about analysis, but about facts.

25 years old player averaged 34/9/10 in RS, won scoring title and was 3rd in MVP, brought underdogs in the Finals, where they lost against extremely good team, playing the most total minutes in RS and playoffs combined with the highest usage. That kind of player is traded 7 months later without knowing anything in the middle of the night, because he supposedly doesn't care enough about conditioning? And the best part, he was trade for 6 years older injury prone player, who might have already finished this season after playing 3Qs for Mavs.

Why are you cackling??? I could care less about these posts and these prepubescent rants

People believing that 25 years old, top 3 player in Nba, global superstar, is being traded because he didn't care about conditioning is just laughable. Mavs imploded in 1 week, because of Nico's decision on every level possible.

You don't need to care, I would expect a little bit of common sense though. Too much?