brownbobcat wrote:Los_29 wrote:brownbobcat wrote:I wouldn't agree, only OG was a very good value at the time of signing. FVV was fair market value while Norm took a while to earn his extension and would have only had RFA rights. I think they overpaid Siakam with the designated extension, and definitely overpaid Boucher and KO. IQ was probably 2-3M overpaid for a guy who'd never been a fulltime starter and wasn't All Star tier.
Fred was on like 20 million a year and made an all-star team. Great contract. Pascal made two all-star teams and two All-NBA teams. Not an overpay. Norm was on 10 million a year with us and was excellent. Another excellent deal. Ibaka was on a very reasonable deal as well.
Boucher makes 11 million a year. That’s not an overpay. KO, yeah 13m a year is too much. But he’s only locked in for two years and just got traded.
You can say everyone was overpaid last summer. Thats just the reality of where the league is. IQ has also had an injury plagued year. His deal was fine and will be fine long-term. The fact you’re nitpicking over a couple million tells me it’s more than reasonable.
So basically, Masai doesn’t have a history of overpaying players. In fact, it’s the opposite.
The operative phrase here is "at the time of signing."
FVV was not an All Star when he signed and he likely never will be again. FVV being an above average starter and being paid ~16-17% of the cap was fair market value. This was fairly close to what Lowry got on his first big contract. In comparison, IQ's cap average is somewhere around 19-20%. He had way less leverage being a RFA and also showed way less to the team as a starter - that's what makes him overpaid. You'll note I didn't bring up cases like DeMarre Carroll. That's because even though he underperformed, the reasonable expectation was that he'd be at least an average starter and there is absolutely zero leverage dealing with free agents signed with cap space.
The issue with Siakam was giving him that designated player exception when, again, he had very little leverage being 2 years away from free agency.
Norm - would've been RFA, overpaid at 9% as a mid-bench player
Ibaka - average starter, definitely overpaid at over 20%
You compare IQs contract to FVV and KL but forget the most important thing. IQs contract is flat and because of that it starts at a higher AAV but stays the same. So if IQ got a more normal back loaded contract he would probably be paid around the same as what FVV and Lowry got.
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