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Re: REPORT: AD out indefinitely 

Post#301 » by Ballerhogger » Tue Feb 11, 2025 3:30 am

Parasite wrote:I wonder how much Nico was paid to do this “trade”

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Post#302 » by DAWill1128 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:24 am

The whole scenario is crazy to me, I thought the Mavs would win the conference again. Lively cleans up a lot, Washington is active, Klay can run hot, and Kyrie-Doncic can slow a game down to a snails pace and out iso anybody.
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Post#303 » by nbaguy1 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:46 am

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Dan Z wrote:This quickly turned into an even worse trade for Dallas.

I'm still surprised that they didn't shop Luka around the league to start a bidding war and that they didn't get more from LA. At least get Knecht and every pick you can. I don't care if they didn't let them talk to Luka's age. Get those assets.


Why bother having a bidding war when a team like the Lakers will give you 30% of the value?

This is like a guy having a $10 million dollar mansion and he wants to sell it, and he doesn't put it up on the market just selling it to a random guy for $3 million.

Its mathematically and stuff a 1000 times worse. Emotionally and demographically a 1000.000.000 times worse at least
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Post#304 » by Dan Z » Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:15 am

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The owners were in on the trade. They knew. Some are even wondering if they were the driving force.


Then that's bad ownership.


100%

I don't think anyone is saying the opposite.


I should add that my original comment was about part owners who may not have known about the trade (I bet some didn't know). I'd be upset if I was them.
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Post#305 » by chrisab123 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:58 am

The more I really think about this, the more I’m guessing that Luka and his agent aren’t exactly as innocent as they seem. Nico is terrible, however, you mean to tell me that the only team you called, by choice, is in your conference? Like you don’t call Boston about like Brown or call Cleveland about Mitchell or any other east all star? What probably happened is someone told Nico that Luka was signing with the Lakers the first chance he got if he didn’t get a super max. Nico decided the risk was too great to give the contract and wanted to get something for Luka. Lukas agent probably then gets involved and tells him if he’s being traded it’s Lakers or bust. This is legitimately the only way at this point I can make sense of not shopping Luka around the league.
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Post#306 » by Dr Aki » Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:52 pm

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Post#307 » by maverick_41 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:18 pm

I don't care if Davis is out. It's fine.
Most importantly he is slim, sober and not a slav.

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Post#308 » by Jeremy Lin 7 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:23 pm

maverick_41 wrote:I don't care if Davis is out. It's fine.
Most importantly he is slim, sober and not a slav.

Is that you Nico Harrison?
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Post#309 » by ryguy613 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:38 pm

maverick_41 wrote:I don't care if Davis is out. It's fine.
Most importantly he is slim, sober and not a slav.


damn, we found the Maverick fan that approves of the trade.

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Post#310 » by DirtyDez » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:41 pm

Still want to know who initiated this deal whether it was ownership or management.
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Post#311 » by bwgood77 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:41 pm

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So you’d rather ignore the truth than admit that the Lakers shouldn’t be as successful as they are? How does success even mean anything when it’s not a fair game?


so like... are we arguing that all of the lakers titles are rigged or just some of them? how many titles am i allowed to celebrate. you tell me.


They're not all rigged, but they're certainly all bull. The Lakers never built a team the hard way.

1980s: Kareem demanded a trade from Milwaukee, joined an MVP-level player in LAL.

1990s/early 2000s: Shaq signed as a FA.

Late 2000s: Pau traded to Lakers for peanuts.

2010s: LeBron signed as a FA. AD demanded a trade to the Lakers (this was the first time the Lakers ever paid fair value for a star player in a trade).

2020s: Luka traded to LAL for peanuts.

The Lakers' entire history of success comes down to FAs signing there, players demanding trades there, and other teams inexplicably trading them star players for peanuts. The last part is the rigged part. The rest is BS from a fan of the sport perspective. The Lakers get bailed out of mediocrity/suckage every time while other teams have to toil in the draft for years/decades.


Kobe traded for Vlade. Also, how did the best team end up with the pick to take Magic, who was obviously going to be a megastar and already was in college?
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Post#312 » by bwgood77 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:44 pm

I guess they got the pick as "compensation from the Jazz when the Jazz signed Gail Goodrich in free agency in 76-77)? Then a couple years later they had gotten a first round pick in 79 from someone for a trade of Don Ford which ended up also the #1 pick, and they took James Worthy. How does someone get that lucky?
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Post#313 » by Broadcaster » Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:13 pm

nikster wrote:
Broadcaster wrote:I’m not trying to suggest anything crazy. I’m not saying the Lakers haven’t won legitimately before. I’m not disagreeing that people have come to the Lakers because they want to. We do live in a world where money matters most though. With this move not being a free-agency choice, and with it potentially having a large revenue benefit, it seems like a pretty nice coincidence. It also seems like an easy out that Nico or the owners are idiots just like it seemed like an easy out to only blame Donaghy.

We’re talking about billionaires managing a multi-billion dollar business. What do you think they’re going to care for? You don’t think they’ll do what’s necessary to maximize profit? What business wouldn’t? And what professional organization would ever actually hire a GM, or have an ownership group, that lacks that much awareness about the thing they’re managing? I think it’s far more likely that money, and people’s pursuit of it, has bigger influence than any of us will ever understand. I think it will definitely be a much greater priority than actually having a professional sport be fair.

If you want to follow the money...how does this help the owner of the Mavs who just invested in their team? What about the 28 other billionare owners that would like to have a player like Luka? The league is not a single entity
I also think incompetence at high level executives/management is a lot more common than you'd think.


It helps them if they want to move it to Vegas. Also, more revenue for the league on the whole would make the other owners more money. It’s also incredibly naive to call this incompetence. This has no rational and every attempt at rationalizing sounds like a stretch for the sake of covering up something that is clearly asinine.
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Post#314 » by M2J » Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:21 pm

DirtyDez wrote:Still want to know who initiated this deal whether it was ownership or management.



If you do know it was ownership, something's wrong
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Post#315 » by Ruma85 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:24 pm

Broadcaster wrote:
nikster wrote:
Broadcaster wrote:I’m not trying to suggest anything crazy. I’m not saying the Lakers haven’t won legitimately before. I’m not disagreeing that people have come to the Lakers because they want to. We do live in a world where money matters most though. With this move not being a free-agency choice, and with it potentially having a large revenue benefit, it seems like a pretty nice coincidence. It also seems like an easy out that Nico or the owners are idiots just like it seemed like an easy out to only blame Donaghy.

We’re talking about billionaires managing a multi-billion dollar business. What do you think they’re going to care for? You don’t think they’ll do what’s necessary to maximize profit? What business wouldn’t? And what professional organization would ever actually hire a GM, or have an ownership group, that lacks that much awareness about the thing they’re managing? I think it’s far more likely that money, and people’s pursuit of it, has bigger influence than any of us will ever understand. I think it will definitely be a much greater priority than actually having a professional sport be fair.

If you want to follow the money...how does this help the owner of the Mavs who just invested in their team? What about the 28 other billionare owners that would like to have a player like Luka? The league is not a single entity
I also think incompetence at high level executives/management is a lot more common than you'd think.


It helps them if they want to move it to Vegas. Also, more revenue for the league on the whole would make the other owners more money. It’s also incredibly naive to call this incompetence. This has no rational and every attempt at rationalizing sounds like a stretch for the sake of covering up something that is clearly asinine.


A lot people are talking about them moving too Vegas, wouldn't they need a valid reason to move the team?
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Re: REPORT: AD out indefinitely 

Post#316 » by Broadcaster » Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:27 pm

Ruma85 wrote:
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nikster wrote:If you want to follow the money...how does this help the owner of the Mavs who just invested in their team? What about the 28 other billionare owners that would like to have a player like Luka? The league is not a single entity
I also think incompetence at high level executives/management is a lot more common than you'd think.


It helps them if they want to move it to Vegas. Also, more revenue for the league on the whole would make the other owners more money. It’s also incredibly naive to call this incompetence. This has no rational and every attempt at rationalizing sounds like a stretch for the sake of covering up something that is clearly asinine.


A lot people are talking about them moving too Vegas, wouldn't they need a valid reason to move the team?


You say that like the world is fair. I’m sure they can ultimately do what they want if they have enough money behind them.
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Post#317 » by NyKnicks1714 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:32 pm

This is terrible for Dallas. Not just the injury itself, but the one thing that could help mitigate the backlash was winning games right away, and that's not going to happen.
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Post#318 » by Aventador » Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:34 pm

but luka fat tho
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Post#319 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:36 pm

Ruma85 wrote:
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nikster wrote:If you want to follow the money...how does this help the owner of the Mavs who just invested in their team? What about the 28 other billionare owners that would like to have a player like Luka? The league is not a single entity
I also think incompetence at high level executives/management is a lot more common than you'd think.


It helps them if they want to move it to Vegas. Also, more revenue for the league on the whole would make the other owners more money. It’s also incredibly naive to call this incompetence. This has no rational and every attempt at rationalizing sounds like a stretch for the sake of covering up something that is clearly asinine.


A lot people are talking about them moving too Vegas, wouldn't they need a valid reason to move the team?


Think they need league approval and follow a bunch of regulations and procedures. They can't just do it themselves
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Re: REPORT: AD out indefinitely 

Post#320 » by Broadcaster » Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:37 pm

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Ruma85 wrote:
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It helps them if they want to move it to Vegas. Also, more revenue for the league on the whole would make the other owners more money. It’s also incredibly naive to call this incompetence. This has no rational and every attempt at rationalizing sounds like a stretch for the sake of covering up something that is clearly asinine.


A lot people are talking about them moving too Vegas, wouldn't they need a valid reason to move the team?


Think they need league approval and follow a bunch of regulations and procedures. They can't just do it themselves


I’m sure the details could be worked out. Ultimately time will tell.

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