Packers News, Transactions - 2025 off-season - McManus Signed - 3 Years/$15 million

[Giannisland34]

Manning will get in eventually because of his name and 2 SB but shouldn't

Now post his playoff stats and his 2 Superbowl MVPs.

I totally get Packer fans being bitter about Eli having the same number of rings as Brett Favre & Aaron Rodgers combined.

And the fact that he beat the Packers in the playoffs at Lambeau in both of his Superbowl runs.

I didn't like it either.

But come on, you can't say Eli isn't worthy of the HOF.

He was 8-4 in POs.....

Outside of the the two SB runs he didn't do ****. Like nothing. Either didn't make the playoffs or win a PO game in 14 of the 16 years he played. Think about that. 14 out of 16 years absolutely nothing.

You're litterally putting him in the HoF based on two 4 game stretches separated by years

That's the bar?

**** it. Flacco is 10-6 in the POs with a SB win. He should get in too then right?

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We as Packer fans have had to wait for Kramer and Sterling. While still waiting for Holmgren too. So Eli not being 1st ballot shouldn’t big any kind of big deal. I strongly feel he’ll get it in eventually. No matter how deserving or undeserving anybody thinks he is.

[RRyder823]

Now post his playoff stats and his 2 Superbowl MVPs.

I totally get Packer fans being bitter about Eli having the same number of rings as Brett Favre & Aaron Rodgers combined.

And the fact that he beat the Packers in the playoffs at Lambeau in both of his Superbowl runs.

I didn't like it either.

But come on, you can't say Eli isn't worthy of the HOF.

He was 8-4 in POs.....

Outside of the the two SB runs he didn't do ****. Like nothing. Either didn't make the playoffs or win a PO game in 14 of the 16 years he played. Think about that. 14 out of 16 years absolutely nothing.

You're litterally putting him in the HoF based on two 4 game stretches separated by years

That's the bar?

**** it. Flacco is 10-6 in the POs with a SB win. He should get in too then right?

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We as Packer fans have had to wait for Kramer and Sterling. While still waiting for Holmgren too. So Eli not being 1st ballot shouldn’t big any kind of big deal. I strongly feel he’ll get it in eventually. No matter how deserving or undeserving anybody thinks he is.

I agree he'll get in eventually. Most people do

The discussion started based on "should he" though

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[Matches Malone]

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[MickeyDavis]

We agreed to terms with X on 3/11 last year. The bigger names move first and we have cash. Gute did well last year. Youngest team to make the playoffs two years in a row is cool Now add another vet or two.

[humanrefutation]

You can't go into the Hall of Fame if you were never considered a top 5 QB during your playing career. Sorry dudes, but Eli should take solace in his two rings and leave the gold jackets for the very best of his era.

[Profound23]

You can only make one move:
Davante as a FA 2/40 with most of it guaranteed

Trade a third and late round pick for Deebo and sign him to an extension 3/75 with 37mil guaranteed

Trade a second for DK with an extension 3/80 with 45 mil guaranteed

Sign Tee Higgins as a FA to 4/135 mil with 95 mil guaranteed

Stick with what we have and draft a wr somewhere between 2nd-4th round

Don't address wr position at all

Which one are you choosing?

[rilamann]

Manning will get in eventually because of his name and 2 SB but shouldn't

Now post his playoff stats and his 2 Superbowl MVPs.

I totally get Packer fans being bitter about Eli having the same number of rings as Brett Favre & Aaron Rodgers combined.

And the fact that he beat the Packers in the playoffs at Lambeau in both of his Superbowl runs.

I didn't like it either.

But come on, you can't say Eli isn't worthy of the HOF.

He was 8-4 in POs.....

Outside of the the two SB runs he didn't do ****. Like nothing. Either didn't make the playoffs or win a PO game in 14 of the 16 years he played. Think about that. 14 out of 16 years absolutely nothing.

You're litterally putting him in the HoF based on two 4 game stretches separated by years

That's the bar?

**** it. Flacco is 10-6 in the POs with a SB win. He should get in too then right?

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Beat the Patriots of Tom Brady/Bill Belichick in the Superbowl TWICE.

Made the 18-0 Patriots 18-1.

2-time Superbowl MVP.

There's an era of NFL football where you can't talk about championships without bringing up the name Eli Manning.

The same era where when you talk about Tom Brady, you have to bring up the name Eli Manning.

Sure, he mostly gets in because 2 stretches of 4 games. But he literally won the Superbowl by beating Tom Brady both times and took home the Superbowl MVP both times.

It's insane to me that anyone would try and argue against Eli being in the hall of fame.

[MickeyDavis]

Easy no on Eli.

[RRyder823]

Now post his playoff stats and his 2 Superbowl MVPs.

I totally get Packer fans being bitter about Eli having the same number of rings as Brett Favre & Aaron Rodgers combined.

And the fact that he beat the Packers in the playoffs at Lambeau in both of his Superbowl runs.

I didn't like it either.

But come on, you can't say Eli isn't worthy of the HOF.

He was 8-4 in POs.....

Outside of the the two SB runs he didn't do ****. Like nothing. Either didn't make the playoffs or win a PO game in 14 of the 16 years he played. Think about that. 14 out of 16 years absolutely nothing.

You're litterally putting him in the HoF based on two 4 game stretches separated by years

That's the bar?

**** it. Flacco is 10-6 in the POs with a SB win. He should get in too then right?

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Beat the Patriots of Tom Brady/Bill Belichick in the Superbowl TWICE.

Made the 18-0 Patriots 18-1.

2-time Superbowl MVP.

There's an era of NFL football where you can't talk about championships without bringing up the name Eli Manning.

The same era where when you talk about Tom Brady, you have to bring up the name Eli Manning.

Sure, he mostly gets in because 2 stretches of 4 games. But he literally won the Superbowl by beating Tom Brady both times and took home the Superbowl MVP both times.

It's insane to me that anyone would try and argue against Eli being in the hall of fame.

It's not "mostly" because of 2 4 game stretches. You're putting him in entirely based on those 2 4 game stretches.

Don't be shocked, or think it's absurd, that people think that the HoF should take more than that

It's insane that anyone wants to argue he absolutely deserves to get in

And if it's just a "he beat Brady" thing well Joe Flacco has 2 wins over Brady in the POs. Should he get in? And is it insane that someone would think he shouldn't?

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[MikeIsGood]

You can't go into the Hall of Fame if you were never considered a top 5 QB during your playing career. Sorry dudes, but Eli should take solace in his two rings and leave the gold jackets for the very best of his era.

Legit cannot believe it's even a discussion here. A Giants board? Sure, go off. Absolutely anywhere else?

[Treebeard]

Acmepackingcompany's take on Free Agent CB's (using PFF metrics)

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2025/2/10/24363124/2025-nfl-free-agency-advanced-stats-for-the-cornerback-class

Packers Cornerbacks

+128.6 adjusted yards of value: Carrington Valentine (23rd among 98 qualifiers)
+34.3: Jaire Alexander (41st)
+15.1 Keisean Nixon (45th)
-63.8 Eric Stokes (70th)

As a reminder, a score of 0 would be dead average. Each of Valentine, Alexander and Nixon are playing like low-end CB1s to mid-level CB2s, in part because none of them have been starting at outside cornerback consistently, while Eric Stokes is well behind the trio.

How many cornerbacks on the free agent market would be an improvement to the group the Packers have? I’m glad you asked. Using these numbers, we can answer that exact question.
Top Free Agent Cornerbacks

+286.9: Rasul Douglas (6th)
+174.5 D.J. Reed (16th)
+142.0 Paulson Adebo (21st)
+115.4: Byron Murphy (25th)
+46.0: Charvarius Ward (38th)
+45.5: Asante Samuel (39th)
+19.5: Stephon Gilmore (44th)
-26.1 Jonathan Jones (60th)
-225.7: Carlton Davis (87th)

The list above includes all of the cornerbacks who made Pro Football Focus’ top 100 free agents list, excluding Nate Hobbs and Mike Hilton. Hobbs and Hilton combined for 113 outside cornerback snaps over the last two seasons. For perspective, Nixon, who mostly played nickelback until the second half of the 2024 season, posted 347. Again, the nickel is Bullard’s spot moving forward.

[MVP2110]

Acmepackingcompany's take on Free Agent CB's (using PFF metrics)

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2025/2/10/24363124/2025-nfl-free-agency-advanced-stats-for-the-cornerback-class

Packers Cornerbacks

+128.6 adjusted yards of value: Carrington Valentine (23rd among 98 qualifiers)
+34.3: Jaire Alexander (41st)
+15.1 Keisean Nixon (45th)
-63.8 Eric Stokes (70th)

As a reminder, a score of 0 would be dead average. Each of Valentine, Alexander and Nixon are playing like low-end CB1s to mid-level CB2s, in part because none of them have been starting at outside cornerback consistently, while Eric Stokes is well behind the trio.

How many cornerbacks on the free agent market would be an improvement to the group the Packers have? I’m glad you asked. Using these numbers, we can answer that exact question.
Top Free Agent Cornerbacks

+286.9: Rasul Douglas (6th)
+174.5 D.J. Reed (16th)
+142.0 Paulson Adebo (21st)
+115.4: Byron Murphy (25th)
+46.0: Charvarius Ward (38th)
+45.5: Asante Samuel (39th)
+19.5: Stephon Gilmore (44th)
-26.1 Jonathan Jones (60th)
-225.7: Carlton Davis (87th)

The list above includes all of the cornerbacks who made Pro Football Focus’ top 100 free agents list, excluding Nate Hobbs and Mike Hilton. Hobbs and Hilton combined for 113 outside cornerback snaps over the last two seasons. For perspective, Nixon, who mostly played nickelback until the second half of the 2024 season, posted 347. Again, the nickel is Bullard’s spot moving forward.

The more I think about the Packers needs and dig into the numbers I just keep lowering how much of a need CB truly is for Green Bay. Our pass defense ended up rating really well, especially when you add the context of a lackluster pass rush. My top priorities would be WR, LB, & building the trenches

[RRyder823]

Acmepackingcompany's take on Free Agent CB's (using PFF metrics)

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2025/2/10/24363124/2025-nfl-free-agency-advanced-stats-for-the-cornerback-class

Packers Cornerbacks

+128.6 adjusted yards of value: Carrington Valentine (23rd among 98 qualifiers)
+34.3: Jaire Alexander (41st)
+15.1 Keisean Nixon (45th)
-63.8 Eric Stokes (70th)

As a reminder, a score of 0 would be dead average. Each of Valentine, Alexander and Nixon are playing like low-end CB1s to mid-level CB2s, in part because none of them have been starting at outside cornerback consistently, while Eric Stokes is well behind the trio.

How many cornerbacks on the free agent market would be an improvement to the group the Packers have? I’m glad you asked. Using these numbers, we can answer that exact question.
Top Free Agent Cornerbacks

+286.9: Rasul Douglas (6th)
+174.5 D.J. Reed (16th)
+142.0 Paulson Adebo (21st)
+115.4: Byron Murphy (25th)
+46.0: Charvarius Ward (38th)
+45.5: Asante Samuel (39th)
+19.5: Stephon Gilmore (44th)
-26.1 Jonathan Jones (60th)
-225.7: Carlton Davis (87th)

The list above includes all of the cornerbacks who made Pro Football Focus’ top 100 free agents list, excluding Nate Hobbs and Mike Hilton. Hobbs and Hilton combined for 113 outside cornerback snaps over the last two seasons. For perspective, Nixon, who mostly played nickelback until the second half of the 2024 season, posted 347. Again, the nickel is Bullard’s spot moving forward.

The more I think about the Packers needs and dig into the numbers I just keep lowering how much of a need CB truly is for Green Bay. Our pass defense ended up rating really well, especially when you add the context of a lackluster pass rush. My top priorities would be WR, LB, & building the trenches

This is the drum I've been beating for months. The games where our pass rush didn't suck unsurprisingly our CBs managed to keep guys in check but when the they allowed guys to sit back for 5-6 seconds every drop back yeah they struggled.

I still can't get behind WR being a #1 or #2 priority and am suprised your putting LB as a top one also (i get Quay is a punching bag around here but the emergence of Cooper mitigated any sort of a need imo)

Top needs for this team imo are D line (both Interior and Edge) followed by Oline simply because you can never have enough good players there

After that it really depends how things fall on place

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[MVP2110]

Acmepackingcompany's take on Free Agent CB's (using PFF metrics)

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2025/2/10/24363124/2025-nfl-free-agency-advanced-stats-for-the-cornerback-class

The more I think about the Packers needs and dig into the numbers I just keep lowering how much of a need CB truly is for Green Bay. Our pass defense ended up rating really well, especially when you add the context of a lackluster pass rush. My top priorities would be WR, LB, & building the trenches

This is the drum I've been beating for months. The games where our pass rush didn't suck unsurprisingly our CBs managed to keep guys in check but when the they allowed guys to sit back for 5-6 seconds every drop back yeah they struggled.

I still can't get behind WR being a #1 or #2 priority and am suprised your putting LB as a top one also (i get Quay is a punching bag around here but the emergence of Cooper mitigated any sort of a need imo)

Top needs for this team imo are D line (both Interior and Edge) followed by Oline simply because you can never have enough good players there

After that it really depends how things fall on place

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To clarify it's more LB depth since Cooper is basically the only LB I trust on our team. As good as our pass coverage was on the boundaries it was brutal in the middle of the field

[jakecronus8]

You can only make one move:
Davante as a FA 2/40 with most of it guaranteed

Trade a third and late round pick for Deebo and sign him to an extension 3/75 with 37mil guaranteed

Trade a second for DK with an extension 3/80 with 45 mil guaranteed

Sign Tee Higgins as a FA to 4/135 mil with 95 mil guaranteed

Stick with what we have and draft a wr somewhere between 2nd-4th round

Don't address wr position at all

Which one are you choosing?

Draft a receiver. Spend your money in the trenches.

[ReginaldDwight]

Now post his playoff stats and his 2 Superbowl MVPs.

I totally get Packer fans being bitter about Eli having the same number of rings as Brett Favre & Aaron Rodgers combined.

And the fact that he beat the Packers in the playoffs at Lambeau in both of his Superbowl runs.

I didn't like it either.

But come on, you can't say Eli isn't worthy of the HOF.

He was 8-4 in POs.....

Outside of the the two SB runs he didn't do ****. Like nothing. Either didn't make the playoffs or win a PO game in 14 of the 16 years he played. Think about that. 14 out of 16 years absolutely nothing.

You're litterally putting him in the HoF based on two 4 game stretches separated by years

That's the bar?

**** it. Flacco is 10-6 in the POs with a SB win. He should get in too then right?

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Beat the Patriots of Tom Brady/Bill Belichick in the Superbowl TWICE.

Made the 18-0 Patriots 18-1.

2-time Superbowl MVP.

There's an era of NFL football where you can't talk about championships without bringing up the name Eli Manning.

The same era where when you talk about Tom Brady, you have to bring up the name Eli Manning.

Sure, he mostly gets in because 2 stretches of 4 games. But he literally won the Superbowl by beating Tom Brady both times and took home the Superbowl MVP both times.

It's insane to me that anyone would try and argue against Eli being in the hall of fame.

Its not the Super Bowl Hall of Fame.

[Treebeard]

Eli will get in eventually, he was very good. I think he also gets gravy points for being part of NFL royalty and for having success in one of the biggest media markets in the country. If his name was Bob Smith playing in Seattle or Carolina, he wouldn't have those extra perk points

[dbrodz7]

We agreed to terms with X on 3/11 last year. The bigger names move first and we have cash. Gute did well last year. Youngest team to make the playoffs two years in a row is cool Now add another vet or two.

3/11 is mine and Chourio's birthday. I am expecting Gute to deliver a nice present again this year.

[trwi7]

Matt Ryan has a better record, completion %, TD/INT ratio, more yards, better YPA, better QB rating and nobody is clamoring for him to get into the HOF.

Manning isn't even that different stat wise than Derek Carr and Carr has no chance at the HOF.

[Treebeard]

Acmepackingcompany.com's take on Interior DLine Free Agents(using PFF data):

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2025/2/12/24364082/2025-nfl-free-agency-advanced-stats-for-the-defensive-tackle-class-green-bay-packers

]Packers Defensive Tackles

+14.7 pressures vs. average: Devonte Wyatt (13th among 68 qualifiers)
+5.8: Kenny Clark (23rd)
-6.2: Karl Brooks (41st)
-7.1: T.J. Slaton (43rd)

I can hear the comment section starting up already. The numbers must be bunk if Devonte Wyatt is this high on the list. Here’s what I’ll say; these are the players who rank above Wyatt in pressures versus average: Quinnen Williams, Zach Allen, Osa Odighizuwa, DeForest Buckner, Ed Oliver, Chris Jones, Javon Hargrave, Dexter Lawrence, Nnamdi Madubuike (formerly Justin Madubuike), Maliek Collins, Jarren Reed and Christian Wilkins. Just behind him are the likes of Jalen Carter, Jeffery Simmons, Leonard Williams and Arik Armstead. Those are the league’s top defensive tackles.

The problem isn’t that Wyatt doesn’t produce when he’s on the field. It’s that he’s not on the field enough. Wyatt’s 11.9 percent pressure rate is better than all but Quinnen Williams, Hargrave, Odighizuwa, Buckner, Allen and Jones among qualifiers. The difference? Of the 12 players who rank above Wyatt in pressures versus average, they have averaged 755 pass-rushing snaps over the past two seasons. Wyatt has only posted 447 compared to Allen’s 1,011

Top Free Agent Defensive Tackles

+28.7: Osa Odighizuwa (3rd)
+17.5: Jarran Reed (11th)
+7.2: Milton Williams (22nd)
-6.7: Tershawn Wharton (42nd)
-9.5: B.J. Hill (48th)
-20.5: D.J. Jones (63rd)

As far as the free agent class goes, there are not many qualifiers who are going to be free agents. This shouldn’t be a surprise to people who follow the sport closely. Franchises rarely let quality linemen walk for nothing.

There are really three needle movers in this class. Two, Dallas’ Osa Odighizuwa and Philadelphia’s Milton Williams, are one-dimensional players. For perspective, at the combine, Odighizuwa was measured in at 282 pounds while Williams was 284. Both are quality pass-rushing defensive tackles, but adding them to the roster in Green Bay would only be multiplying the Packers’ Wyatt problem. It wouldn’t solve it.

They aren't seeing much FA help available from this group