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Post#562 » by djsunyc » Tue Feb 11, 2025 5:52 pm

if we draft cooper flagg, would he start right away? and would he be the SF while moving ingram over to SG?
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Post#563 » by Psubs » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:15 pm

djsunyc wrote:if we draft cooper flagg, would he start right away? and would he be the SF while moving ingram over to SG?


I would say no and let him earn the starting job. He'd have to play crazy enough to force Barrett to the bench! :o

Though I think he would get 26-28 mins right away.

I guess if they win the #1 pick, you know Flagg will be drafted so can plan a draft night trade immediately. Like San Antonio winning Wemby, can start planning right away. Consolidate some depth.
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Post#564 » by youngRAPZ » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:33 pm

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djsunyc wrote:if we draft cooper flagg, would he start right away? and would he be the SF while moving ingram over to SG?


I would say no and let him earn the starting job. He'd have to play crazy enough to force Barrett to the bench! :o

Though I think he would get 26-28 mins right away.

I guess if they win the #1 pick, you know Flagg will be drafted so can plan a draft night trade immediately. Like San Antonio winning Wemby, can start planning right away. Consolidate some depth.

I think Flagg is the only guy that should be a starter day 1. He’s no Risache or however you spell it lol.


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Post#565 » by dhackett1565 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:04 pm

I suspect unless there's a great trade return sitting there for RJ, we enter next season with him still here as well as our draftee, even if it's Flagg, and we start the rookie off the bench, let him earn his way into the starting lineup throughout the season and chase additional moves at the deadline or following draft if needed.
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Post#566 » by billy_hoyle » Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:41 pm

djsunyc wrote:if we draft cooper flagg, would he start right away? and would he be the SF while moving ingram over to SG?


So, this is only a 14% chance of happening (at best).

IF it were to happen, I think long and hard about an Ingram S&T.

I'd want to start Flagg right away and not have $80m tied up in SF/PF slots.

I think we are likely to end up with Jak, VJ, Maluach, Queen.
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Post#567 » by djsunyc » Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:24 pm

billy_hoyle wrote:
djsunyc wrote:if we draft cooper flagg, would he start right away? and would he be the SF while moving ingram over to SG?


So, this is only a 14% chance of happening (at best).

IF it were to happen, I think long and hard about an Ingram S&T.

I'd want to start Flagg right away and not have $80m tied up in SF/PF slots.

I think we are likely to end up with Jak, VJ, Maluach, Queen.


why can't you start ingram at SG, flagg at SF and barnes at PF?
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Post#568 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:36 pm

djsunyc wrote:if we draft cooper flagg, would he start right away? and would he be the SF while moving ingram over to SG?


that bench mob be tight ngl with Flagg
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Post#569 » by billy_hoyle » Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:38 pm

djsunyc wrote:
billy_hoyle wrote:
djsunyc wrote:if we draft cooper flagg, would he start right away? and would he be the SF while moving ingram over to SG?


So, this is only a 14% chance of happening (at best).

IF it were to happen, I think long and hard about an Ingram S&T.

I'd want to start Flagg right away and not have $80m tied up in SF/PF slots.

I think we are likely to end up with Jak, VJ, Maluach, Queen.


why can't you start ingram at SG, flagg at SF and barnes at PF?


You could try it. It may be very good. I'd expect the perimeter defence to be porous and opposing offences to eat paint.

Looks like the front office wants to give that a go anyway, with the extension to BI today. I have no real issue with it, just a preference to not play guys out of position.
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Post#570 » by bartron_44 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:55 pm

They have locked up Ingram for at least 2 more years after this, with a player option for a 3rd season for 120M.

I hope we get to see the new “starting 5” before the end of the year…

Quickley
Barrett
Ingram
Barnes
Poeltl


Im curious how much of an upgrade he turns out to be over Agbaji/Dick who have played that role so far this year. If he can put up similar numbers to what he did in NO, that is a potent starting 5. With shooters in Shead, Dick, Agbaji, Battle and Boucher coming off the bench. The spacing only gets better the deeper they go down the depth chart. As soon as Poeltl and Scottie come off they have 5 guys that you need to defend behind the arc.


As good as Poeltl is, if SB cant get back to his 3pt shooting form from last seasons version of Scottie Barnes, than Poeltl will likely need to upgraded somehow to take them to true contender status.Or turned into an expensive backup somehow …which would likely give them one of the best C duos in the NBA. Elite Cs seem to be dominating again in the NBA. So having 2 good ones wouldnt be a bad thing, that’s for sure.
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Post#571 » by Dexjackson » Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:34 am

bartron_44 wrote:They have locked up Ingram for at least 2 more years after this, with a player option for a 3rd season for 120M.

I hope we get to see the new “starting 5” before the end of the year…

Quickley
Barrett
Ingram
Barnes
Poeltl


Im curious how much of an upgrade he turns out to be over Agbaji/Dick who have played that role so far this year. If he can put up similar numbers to what he did in NO, that is a potent starting 5. With shooters in Shead, Dick, Agbaji, Battle and Boucher coming off the bench. The spacing only gets better the deeper they go down the depth chart. As soon as Poeltl and Scottie come off they have 5 guys that you need to defend behind the arc.


As good as Poeltl is, if SB cant get back to his 3pt shooting form from last seasons version of Scottie Barnes, than Poeltl will likely need to upgraded somehow to take them to true contender status.Or turned into an expensive backup somehow …which would likely give them one of the best C duos in the NBA. Elite Cs seem to be dominating again in the NBA. So having 2 good ones wouldnt be a bad thing, that’s for sure.


I don't see how we can make Yak a backup. We're already so close to the tax. Unless we trade RJ.
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Post#572 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:10 am

I wonder which team will trade for Embiid. Timberwolves?
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Post#573 » by Thaddy » Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:13 am

I wonder what RJ and our lottery pick could fetch in the market. If our pick drops to 7th or lower it might be a good buy low move for another star.

We need an elite shooter in our starting line up. If the Suns blow it up maybe we can put together a competitive package for Booker. Barrett + 7th + 2026 1st swap + 2027 1st protected (top 10).

Poeltl / Wolf (POR 2nd)
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Agbaji
Booker / Dick
Quickley / Shead

Could that be a contender?
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Post#574 » by Dexjackson » Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:06 pm

Thaddy wrote:I wonder what RJ and our lottery pick could fetch in the market. If our pick drops to 7th or lower it might be a good buy low move for another star.

We need an elite shooter in our starting line up. If the Suns blow it up maybe we can put together a competitive package for Booker. Barrett + 7th + 2026 1st swap + 2027 1st protected (top 10).

Poeltl / Wolf (POR 2nd)
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Agbaji
Booker / Dick
Quickley / Shead

Could that be a contender?


I definitely think it could be a contender. I don't see the Suns going for that return though. I think it's pretty light. I'm not sure why they would want Barrett. I do wonder what RJ's value across the league is now (I.e. How much has it change since he was viewed as a "negative asset")?
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Post#575 » by Thaddy » Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:55 pm

Dexjackson wrote:
Thaddy wrote:I wonder what RJ and our lottery pick could fetch in the market. If our pick drops to 7th or lower it might be a good buy low move for another star.

We need an elite shooter in our starting line up. If the Suns blow it up maybe we can put together a competitive package for Booker. Barrett + 7th + 2026 1st swap + 2027 1st protected (top 10).

Poeltl / Wolf (POR 2nd)
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Agbaji
Booker / Dick
Quickley / Shead

Could that be a contender?


I definitely think it could be a contender. I don't see the Suns going for that return though. I think it's pretty light. I'm not sure why they would want Barrett. I do wonder what RJ's value across the league is now (I.e. How much has it change since he was viewed as a "negative asset")?

I doubt they do. We'd also be deep in the tax.

Assuming we pick 5th we're at 185.8M for 12 roster spots. We would have to fill 3 roster spots with less than 2M available.

We're almost definitely looking at some kind of trade. I think we sell Agbaji for high value and then look to off load Barrett before the deadline. If Agbaji gets us a late pick or a couple 2nd rounders we can package those with RJ for big man depth.

Poeltl / (Barrett trade)
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Walter
Dick / Johnson
Quickley / Shead

We are going to be balls to the wall against the tax and it'll cause flexibility issues when we're trying to improve or fill in holes on our team. This also pretty much means we're going to lose Boucher for nothing and let his contract expire.

A big move for Book or another star is pretty unlikely.
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Post#576 » by Thaddy » Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:58 pm

Dexjackson wrote:
Thaddy wrote:I wonder what RJ and our lottery pick could fetch in the market. If our pick drops to 7th or lower it might be a good buy low move for another star.

We need an elite shooter in our starting line up. If the Suns blow it up maybe we can put together a competitive package for Booker. Barrett + 7th + 2026 1st swap + 2027 1st protected (top 10).

Poeltl / Wolf (POR 2nd)
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Agbaji
Booker / Dick
Quickley / Shead

Could that be a contender?


I definitely think it could be a contender. I don't see the Suns going for that return though. I think it's pretty light. I'm not sure why they would want Barrett. I do wonder what RJ's value across the league is now (I.e. How much has it change since he was viewed as a "negative asset")?

I doubt they do. We'd also be deep in the tax.

Assuming we pick 5th we're at 185.8M for 12 roster spots. We would have to fill 3 roster spots with less than 2M available.

We're almost definitely looking at some kind of trade. I think we sell Agbaji for high value and then look to off load Barrett before the deadline. If Agbaji gets us a late pick or a couple 2nd rounders we can package those with RJ for big man depth.

Poeltl / (Barrett trade)
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Walter
Dick / Johnson
Quickley / Shead

We are going to be balls to the wall against the tax and it'll cause flexibility issues when we're trying to improve or fill in holes on our team. This also pretty much means we're going to lose Boucher for nothing and let his contract expire.

A big move for Book or another star is pretty unlikely.

IQ is good but we're going to regret his contract in the future. If we had him for 25-27M that extra room would give us a lot more breathing space.
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Post#577 » by Dexjackson » Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:37 pm

Thaddy wrote:
Dexjackson wrote:
Thaddy wrote:I wonder what RJ and our lottery pick could fetch in the market. If our pick drops to 7th or lower it might be a good buy low move for another star.

We need an elite shooter in our starting line up. If the Suns blow it up maybe we can put together a competitive package for Booker. Barrett + 7th + 2026 1st swap + 2027 1st protected (top 10).

Poeltl / Wolf (POR 2nd)
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Agbaji
Booker / Dick
Quickley / Shead

Could that be a contender?


I definitely think it could be a contender. I don't see the Suns going for that return though. I think it's pretty light. I'm not sure why they would want Barrett. I do wonder what RJ's value across the league is now (I.e. How much has it change since he was viewed as a "negative asset")?

I doubt they do. We'd also be deep in the tax.

Assuming we pick 5th we're at 185.8M for 12 roster spots. We would have to fill 3 roster spots with less than 2M available.

We're almost definitely looking at some kind of trade. I think we sell Agbaji for high value and then look to off load Barrett before the deadline. If Agbaji gets us a late pick or a couple 2nd rounders we can package those with RJ for big man depth.

Poeltl / (Barrett trade)
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Walter
Dick / Johnson
Quickley / Shead

We are going to be balls to the wall against the tax and it'll cause flexibility issues when we're trying to improve or fill in holes on our team. This also pretty much means we're going to lose Boucher for nothing and let his contract expire.

A big move for Book or another star is pretty unlikely.

IQ is good but we're going to regret his contract in the future. If we had him for 25-27M that extra room would give us a lot more breathing space.


I would rather trade Gradey than Ochai personally but I can see the rationale for trading Ochai (GD has one extra year on his rookie deal than Ochai). I just like Ochai better has a 3&D player fit on this team. Ideally if we can get a promising backup 5 and expiring for RJ next year I would take it. Then you let GD, Ochai, Walter fill in his minutes. I think that is a much better balanced team moving forward too.
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Post#578 » by youngRAPZ » Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:55 pm

Dexjackson wrote:
Thaddy wrote:I wonder what RJ and our lottery pick could fetch in the market. If our pick drops to 7th or lower it might be a good buy low move for another star.

We need an elite shooter in our starting line up. If the Suns blow it up maybe we can put together a competitive package for Booker. Barrett + 7th + 2026 1st swap + 2027 1st protected (top 10).

Poeltl / Wolf (POR 2nd)
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Agbaji
Booker / Dick
Quickley / Shead

Could that be a contender?


I definitely think it could be a contender. I don't see the Suns going for that return though. I think it's pretty light. I'm not sure why they would want Barrett. I do wonder what RJ's value across the league is now (I.e. How much has it change since he was viewed as a "negative asset")?

They don’t have their own picks and will be stuck with Beal so they will need to stay competitive. Not that I think that deal would happen or anything just answering why they might possible want RJ.


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Post#579 » by Tripod » Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:17 pm

If we ever lucked into Flagg, I start him on the bench. There will be plenty of minutes in the game and with injuries. Him playing vs other bench guys to start would be great.

Then I also.move RJ to the bench in favor of Ochai for his 3+D

IQ, Och, BI, Barnes, Yak
Shead, RJ, Gradey, Walter, Battle, Flagg
Mogbo & Chomche-905 time to work on offense
Port pick in 905 too

That's a hell of a bench that shouldn't see a dip in production and it spreads the ball around more. Ideally Gradey or Walter get moves for a backup C with similar upside and we would be cooking.

The best thing is you can see that we finally have playable depth to withstand some injuries. And we also have lots of youth for internal growth although we all know, development isn't linear so there will be ups and downs.
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Post#580 » by Rapsfan07 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:40 pm

billy_hoyle wrote:
djsunyc wrote:if we draft cooper flagg, would he start right away? and would he be the SF while moving ingram over to SG?


So, this is only a 14% chance of happening (at best).

IF it were to happen, I think long and hard about an Ingram S&T.

I'd want to start Flagg right away and not have $80m tied up in SF/PF slots.

I think we are likely to end up with Jak, VJ, Maluach, Queen.


Would really like to end up with Flagg or Harper but I'd be very happy with VJ as well. I think he's going to be an all-star.

Jak I'd be less happy about but okay. Not super Interested in Queen either but I'd prefer him over Maluach.
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