How tainted would any future LeBron rings be with Luka as the main man?

[Big J]

I’ll answer this question with another question:

Does anybody here think Steph Curry’s rings are tainted with two of them from Durant being the main guy? Heck, even his first one he lost Finals MVP to a 6th man. Those are tainted right?

That's because Curry won in 2022 without Durant and Durant has done squat since they parted. Curry proved he was the alpha by doing that.

Curry only proved he was an alpha on the 2022 team though.

I’m not saying I disagree, just saying that’s essentially the same thing this OP is talking about. Lebron already proved to win titles by being the alpha in the past. How would this hypothetical title be any different than the Curry example?

Because the difference is Curry winning one AFTER Durant left. Lebron was great when he won his rings, but he's no longer at an alpha stage in his career. He'd have to win one of his own after winning one with Luka for this to be a 1 to 1 comparison.

[Dino353]

I don't think anyone judges LeBron as the GOAT due to amount of rings, at least I don't. Amount of rings says nothing about a player's greatness. LeBron is judged off what he did 03-20 not what he's doing right now.

His fans and klutch' influencers tell us a different story...

By the way, nobody but his hardcore fans and who is on klutch' paybook consider him the goat.
He is in the conversation to be top 10-15 with guys like Kareem, MJ ( real GOAT ), Duncan, Magic, Bird, Kobe, Shaq, Dream, Wilt...

Look at this massive cope. Hope you get much needed help with your LeBron Derangement Syndrome, son.

I do not have LeBron "Derangement Syndrome" and I am not your son dude. I'm just saying judging LeBron after his 4th title makes no sense because he no longer had anything to prove at that point.

[ScrantonBulls]

His fans and klutch' influencers tell us a different story...

By the way, nobody but his hardcore fans and who is on klutch' paybook consider him the goat.
He is in the conversation to be top 10-15 with guys like Kareem, MJ ( real GOAT ), Duncan, Magic, Bird, Kobe, Shaq, Dream, Wilt...

Look at this massive cope. Hope you get much needed help with your LeBron Derangement Syndrome, son.

I do not have LeBron "Derangement Syndrome" and I am not your son dude. I'm just saying judging LeBron after his 4th title makes no sense because he no longer had anything to prove at that point.

I wasn't talking to you! Sorry for the confusion. I replied to Luke. Your post was reasonable.

[Dino353]

I don't think anyone judges LeBron as the GOAT due to amount of rings, at least I don't. Amount of rings says nothing about a player's greatness. LeBron is judged off what he did 03-20 not what he's doing right now.

His fans and klutch' influencers tell us a different story...

By the way, nobody but his hardcore fans and who is on klutch' paybook consider him the goat.
He is in the conversation to be top 10-15 with guys like Kareem, MJ ( real GOAT ), Duncan, Magic, Bird, Kobe, Shaq, Dream, Wilt...

And that's completely fine, you're just tossing out your opinion which I highly disagree with. He's the best basketball player I've ever seen, I haven't seen anyone better.

[Memories]

That's because Curry won in 2022 without Durant and Durant has done squat since they parted. Curry proved he was the alpha by doing that.

Curry only proved he was an alpha on the 2022 team though.

I’m not saying I disagree, just saying that’s essentially the same thing this OP is talking about. Lebron already proved to win titles by being the alpha in the past. How would this hypothetical title be any different than the Curry example?

Because the difference is Curry winning one AFTER Durant left. Lebron was great when he won his rings, but he's no longer at an alpha stage in his career. He'd have to win one of his own after winning one with Luka for this to be a 1 to 1 comparison.

So then by that logic, no one should be disputing players like Kobe since he did just that? Duncan for winning after David Robinson?

Just curious where we draw the line?

[CobraCommander]

If LBJ gets a ring with Luka this year it will add to both of their legacies - Luka a top 5 player this year and LeBron is no worse than 7th right now -

Name 7 guys better than LBJ… and don’t say Brunson, Edwards Brown, PG13, Booker, KD, Steph, AD… hell we know Luka better than Lebron right now but Lebron having a better year…. Durability and winning games - lbj is the man… in year 100.

Luka is not top 3 if you have SGA as MVP jokic as best player and Giannis as Giannis - then you have Tatum having a better year than Luka because of injury - but then it’s Luka then Maybe wemby and then Lebron -

[Handlez]

If he's still trying to be the alpha #1 option, that'll be such a shame and disrespect to Luka.

Would rather see Luka sit out than be used to boost LeBron.

[JujitsuFlip]

I don't think anyone judges LeBron as the GOAT due to amount of rings, at least I don't. Amount of rings says nothing about a player's greatness. LeBron is judged off what he did 03-20 not what he's doing right now.

His fans and klutch' influencers tell us a different story...

By the way, nobody but his hardcore fans and who is on klutch' paybook consider him the goat.
He is in the conversation to be top 10-15 with guys like Kareem, MJ ( real GOAT ), Duncan, Magic, Bird, Kobe, Shaq, Dream, Wilt...

Ain't no way LeBron is sitting at 15 all time, gimmea break lol

You've been on this forum since dude joined the league and that's your take? Wow.

[Tor_Raps]

As an avid Jordan stan, LeBron winning a title this year would be a MASSIVE pro on his resume.

[Yoshun]

I would be very, very surprised is the Lakers win it all this year.

[brutalitops]

Log off nephew.

[zimpy27]

With no one from the 2020 Lakers championship team in rotation you would have seen LeBron win 4 championships with 4 different teams under 4 different coaches.

I can't explain how insane that would be.

[SNPA]

If they never get a ring together…Kings fans win.

If they win a ring together and it becomes a which is weaker sauce Mickey or Luka ring debate? Kings fans win. It’s a win/win situation really.

[ScrantonBulls]

With no one from the 2020 Lakers championship team in rotation you would have seen LeBron win 4 championships with 4 different teams under 4 different coaches.

I can't explain how insane that would be.

Yep. He's already the GOAT. Another ring would put him into the "undisputed" GOAT category.

[Zvaart]

*if* he wins a title with Luka, why on earth would that title be “tainted”?

Because RealGM is full of idiots

[axeman23]

[michaelm]

I've noticed an uptick in coping threads from people who hate LeBron lately. They're definitely upset that he's got a potential title team and will be further cementing his status as the GOAT.

If he was a major contributor to a title at age 40 or more, particularly if he was the second best player it would obviously further enhance his status for anyone vaguely reasonable.

However given you yourself are not even vaguely reasonable you have rather dug a hole for yourself by devaluing Jordan’s titles because he had Pippen on his team.

[michaelm]

If LBJ gets a ring with Luka this year it will add to both of their legacies - Luka a top 5 player this year and LeBron is no worse than 7th right now -

Name 7 guys better than LBJ… and don’t say Brunson, Edwards Brown, PG13, Booker, KD, Steph, AD… hell we know Luka better than Lebron right now but Lebron having a better year…. Durability and winning games - lbj is the man… in year 100.

Luka is not top 3 if you have SGA as MVP jokic as best player and Giannis as Giannis - then you have Tatum having a better year than Luka because of injury - but then it’s Luka then Maybe wemby and then Lebron -

However if the Lakers win a title it will likely be because Luka actually is a top 3 player given the Lakers will need to be better than the teams of those you mention.

[axeman23]

That's because Curry won in 2022 without Durant and Durant has done squat since they parted. Curry proved he was the alpha by doing that.

Curry only proved he was an alpha on the 2022 team though.

I’m not saying I disagree, just saying that’s essentially the same thing this OP is talking about. Lebron already proved to win titles by being the alpha in the past. How would this hypothetical title be any different than the Curry example?

Because the difference is Curry winning one AFTER Durant left. Lebron was great when he won his rings, but he's no longer at an alpha stage in his career. He'd have to win one of his own after winning one with Luka for this to be a 1 to 1 comparison.

Yeah, poor Curry had to do it with only TWO HOFers that year, Dray and Klay. #thestruggleisreal

[SpreeS]

What rings?