2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV

[bwgood77]

I was thinking about it last night. Do you think if Booker retired right now, he would make the Hall of Fame?

If he had one Championship to his name, then yes, I think he would have a strong case.

I look at it along the lines of DeMar DeRozen. Great player and great shooter. If DeMar DeRozen retired right now, would he be considered for the Hall of Fame? If it's a no, then Booker has no shot at HoF.

And speaking of the HoF, I think it is criminal that Amar'e Stoudemire is nominated over Shawn Marion for the HoF. Marion having a far superior career compared to STAT.

Yeah, I was watching Marion highlights the other day and it's crazy to think back how awesome he was, especially when comparison are made like "next Marion". He was SO good defensively and such a great SF rebounder and second jumper. And just super athletic, steals, some amazing blocks. Weird shooting but was ok at hitting the 3. Amar'e was more dominating at finishing inside and maybe a short baseline jumper but I don't know if he was nearly as good at anything else.

[BobbieL]

I was thinking about it last night. Do you think if Booker retired right now, he would make the Hall of Fame?

If he had one Championship to his name, then yes, I think he would have a strong case.

I look at it along the lines of DeMar DeRozen. Great player and great shooter. If DeMar DeRozen retired right now, would he be considered for the Hall of Fame? If it's a no, then Booker has no shot at HoF.

And speaking of the HoF, I think it is criminal that Amar'e Stoudemire is nominated over Shawn Marion for the HoF. Marion having a far superior career compared to STAT.

Yeah, I was watching Marion highlights the other day and it's crazy to think back how awesome he was, especially when comparison are made like "next Marion". He was SO good defensively and such a great SF rebounder and second jumper. And just super athletic, steals, some amazing blocks. Weird shooting but was ok at hitting the 3. Amar'e was more dominating at finishing inside and maybe a short baseline jumper but I don't know if he was nearly as good at anything else.

I know we can "what if" the hell out of trades made or not made - but KG for Amare - -and I think the Suns win the title. Rumor has it the Suns wanted to trade Marion but I think Marion and Garnett would have been defensively such a force. Oh well...

[BringinDaRuckus]

If he had one Championship to his name, then yes, I think he would have a strong case.

I look at it along the lines of DeMar DeRozen. Great player and great shooter. If DeMar DeRozen retired right now, would he be considered for the Hall of Fame? If it's a no, then Booker has no shot at HoF.

And speaking of the HoF, I think it is criminal that Amar'e Stoudemire is nominated over Shawn Marion for the HoF. Marion having a far superior career compared to STAT.

Yeah, I was watching Marion highlights the other day and it's crazy to think back how awesome he was, especially when comparison are made like "next Marion". He was SO good defensively and such a great SF rebounder and second jumper. And just super athletic, steals, some amazing blocks. Weird shooting but was ok at hitting the 3. Amar'e was more dominating at finishing inside and maybe a short baseline jumper but I don't know if he was nearly as good at anything else.

I know we can "what if" the hell out of trades made or not made - but KG for Amare - -and I think the Suns win the title. Rumor has it the Suns wanted to trade Marion but I think Marion and Garnett would have been defensively such a force. Oh well...

It's always fun to play the "What if..." game. I was definitely on board with the Suns getting KG back in the day. Although it was reportedly going to cost the Suns to give Amar'e, I was still on board.

But KG shot down the idea of going to the Suns when he heard that Amar'e would be the trade piece instead of Shawn Marion. I agree that having a front court of KG and Marion would have been stifling; it's just unfortunate that KG didn't feel Marion was good enough to play alongside with.

One thing I am glad that never occurred was the potential trade of Amar'e Stoudemire to the Cavs for J.J. Hickson. The Cavs were unwilling to trade Hickson. Cavs really bumbled that one.

[Fo-Real]

So would this team benefit from bringing in another big? Someone who might be a threat while still being a big body? Frank the Tank or his type? Is Pete Nance worth a 10 day contract? Plumlee really bothers me! I liked the Nick Richards pick up but I really thought he would be a higher energy player. He is a little too laid back for me.

[wheezy]

Yeah, I was watching Marion highlights the other day and it's crazy to think back how awesome he was, especially when comparison are made like "next Marion". He was SO good defensively and such a great SF rebounder and second jumper. And just super athletic, steals, some amazing blocks. Weird shooting but was ok at hitting the 3. Amar'e was more dominating at finishing inside and maybe a short baseline jumper but I don't know if he was nearly as good at anything else.

I know we can "what if" the hell out of trades made or not made - but KG for Amare - -and I think the Suns win the title. Rumor has it the Suns wanted to trade Marion but I think Marion and Garnett would have been defensively such a force. Oh well...

It's always fun to play the "What if..." game. I was definitely on board with the Suns getting KG back in the day. Although it was reportedly going to cost the Suns to give Amar'e, I was still on board.

But KG shot down the idea of going to the Suns when he heard that Amar'e would be the trade piece instead of Shawn Marion. I agree that having a front court of KG and Marion would have been stifling; it's just unfortunate that KG didn't feel Marion was good enough to play alongside with.

One thing I am glad that never occurred was the potential trade of Amar'e Stoudemire to the Cavs for J.J. Hickson. The Cavs were unwilling to trade Hickson. Cavs really bumbled that one.

I think that KG trade rumor was when I started reading the board. IHG/traxxe/ray ray or whoever leaked the discussions on that (+and the Steph Curry to the Suns draft day one).

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Picking up Wood would be a pretty smart/ solid low risk option! He could play backup 4/5 and has size and versatility if we're going to try and compete this season.

[dremill24]

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Picking up Wood would be a pretty smart/ solid low risk option! He could play backup 4/5 and has size and versatility if we're going to try and compete this season.

He hasnt played all season and still does not have a timetable for returning to play. Likely would not have been waived otherwise, the Lakers could probably use him if healthy

[garrick]

Every part of his body is at risk on a basketball court. Physically broken and unable to play professional basketball on a daily basis. Hard to believe it but it's what it is.

Then again, KD looked like that a few years ago.

Kevin Durant has never been like Beal, he has had some specific injuries (usually on his legs) and he made a full recovery and that's it.

Torn Achilles, left MCL sprain, Jones fracture...all were specific injuries that deserved a good amount of time out and sometimes surgery and rehab to be back on the court.

Beal is missing multiple games in multiple times with weird small things. And it's not bad luck because it happens to him all the **** time.

It's sad because he is on the Suns and we need him on the court, but it's not surprising anyone at this point.

It's due to his playstyle because he often attacks the rim hard which leads to him getting hit and getting injured somehow.

If he can model his game to be more like Klay it would prevent him from getting injured but on this team with no creators or finishers he still kind of has to try to be a finisher/penetrator sadly. This team was always a terrible fit for him.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Picking up Wood would be a pretty smart/ solid low risk option! He could play backup 4/5 and has size and versatility if we're going to try and compete this season.

He hasnt played all season and still does not have a timetable for returning to play. Likely would not have been waived otherwise, the Lakers could probably use him if healthy

Thanks man! The report around early November said he was recovering from his meniscus surgery and suffered a setback but was expected out for about another 4 weeks, then more recent reports give no real timetable. Definitely frustrating to not have updated info but I suppose it is what it is.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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How many more games do you guys think we'll win out of the remaining games left?

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Post was on my undrafted steals list last summer for us to consider for center depth! No big deal really......................

[lilfishi22]

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Post was on my undrafted steals list last summer for us to consider for center depth! No big deal really......................

You covered almost every drafted and undrafted player at every position. One of them would've hit eventually

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[Ghost of Kleine]

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Well, it looks like the Bulls are definitely rebuilding! And I still think w should aggressively pursue Ball this summer if we find a way to get under the 2nd apron far enough! Even if it'd cost us a CLE 27 or 29 1st.

[lilfishi22]

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I'm guessing this is off the back of that report that he was looking to go back to Europe after this year? I suppose he's right....if he gets another contract after this one, he'll obviously stay but if not, he'll have a similarly lucrative deal in Europe.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Post was on my undrafted steals list last summer for us to consider for center depth! No big deal really......................

You covered almost every drafted and undrafted player at every position. One of them would've hit eventually

True !

But , obviously not all the players are in the undrafted ranges now are they. Sure I try to cover as many possibilities for us as are in our ranges without any specific information being shared on prospects of interest or archetype targets the suns might have interest in.

Without any semblance of information towards this, the results are much broader with more possibilities. We've also had numerous needs/ issues to be addressed as well, resulting in more variance of potential prospects to consider. I'm always happy to focus on more specific prospects and smaller lists if anyone has questions or interests in a specific archetype player or talent that someone finds intriguing.

[Frank Lee]

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How many more games do you guys think we'll win out of the remaining games left?

2 games under .500

[thamadkant]

Bulls are tanking....

I would focus on them as a trade partner to get Jalen Smith back, maybe Lonzo Ball if either can be had for cheap. I really liked what Jalen Smith brought to the Suns back then and he can play the PF/C spot again. Monty didnt like him, but he fits the stretch 5 shot blocker that Bud needs.

Maybe a couple of second rounders and filler for Jalen Smith.
Lonzo Ball is trickier as I dont think he's near 100% and may not even pass physical.

[thamadkant]

Also Ishbia not blowing it up knowing Suns have a terrible schedule left and sitting 11th is just perplexing... and concerning. He thinks the Suns are just in a slump? or is he just emotionally invested rather than being smart and objective.