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Post#81 » by MassimoPayne » Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:14 am

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MassimoPayne wrote:Tanking makes no sense. Imaging trading away Luka to win now and one week later we are talking about tanking.


They will try to survice somehow. Play some young guns and hope the Starts come back for the play in. That is the only realistic thing they can do



Trading Luka and the injuries are 2 separate things that are independent of each other. But most fans will inevitably connect them.

AD getting injured, PJ rolling his ankle, Gaff spraining his knee. Those were all unplanned and independent of the Luka trade. Things just happened and unfortunately for Dallas, they're getting the shorter end of the stick now. I remember the playoffs in the early 2000s when Dallas had to face Duncan and the Spurs and Dirk had them nasty bone spurs that had to be surgically removed. Those were first or 2nd round exits year in year out. You need a fully healthy squad in the playoffs to go for a deep run or Boston will just trample all over you 4-0.



Trading Luka and AD injruy are not two seperate things. You go all in with on of the most injury prone superstars we ever had. that is what you get. It was obvious that he will be injured again sooner or later. Unfortunately this was very soon
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Post#82 » by Bob8 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:15 am

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MassimoPayne wrote:Tanking makes no sense. Imaging trading away Luka to win now and one week later we are talking about tanking.


They will try to survice somehow. Play some young guns and hope the Starts come back for the play in. That is the only realistic thing they can do



Trading Luka and the injuries are 2 separate things that are independent of each other. But most fans will inevitably connect them.

AD getting injured, PJ rolling his ankle, Gaff spraining his knee. Those were all unplanned and independent of the Luka trade. Things just happened and unfortunately for Dallas, they're getting the shorter end of the stick now. I remember the playoffs in the early 2000s when Dallas had to face Duncan and the Spurs and Dirk had them nasty bone spurs that had to be surgically removed. Those were first or 2nd round exits year in year out. You need a fully healthy squad in the playoffs to go for a deep run or Boston will just trample all over you 4-0.


Is it the separate thing? AD was traded already injured and apparently his already existing injury was the reason for this new injury. Incompetence to trade for 32 years old, injury prone player and not even do full medical on him and after that hurry him to play with injury is something else. That's not bad luck but malpractice.
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Post#83 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:21 am

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arkuo wrote:
MassimoPayne wrote:Tanking makes no sense. Imaging trading away Luka to win now and one week later we are talking about tanking.


They will try to survice somehow. Play some young guns and hope the Starts come back for the play in. That is the only realistic thing they can do



Trading Luka and the injuries are 2 separate things that are independent of each other. But most fans will inevitably connect them.

AD getting injured, PJ rolling his ankle, Gaff spraining his knee. Those were all unplanned and independent of the Luka trade. Things just happened and unfortunately for Dallas, they're getting the shorter end of the stick now. I remember the playoffs in the early 2000s when Dallas had to face Duncan and the Spurs and Dirk had them nasty bone spurs that had to be surgically removed. Those were first or 2nd round exits year in year out. You need a fully healthy squad in the playoffs to go for a deep run or Boston will just trample all over you 4-0.


Is it the separate thing? AD was traded already injured and apparently his already existing injury was the reason for this new injury. Incompetence to trade for 32 years old, injury prone player and not even do full medical on him and after that hurry him to play with injury is something else. That's not bad luck but malpractice.


...and karma...
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Post#84 » by arkuo » Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:26 am

MassimoPayne wrote:
arkuo wrote:
MassimoPayne wrote:Tanking makes no sense. Imaging trading away Luka to win now and one week later we are talking about tanking.


They will try to survice somehow. Play some young guns and hope the Starts come back for the play in. That is the only realistic thing they can do



Trading Luka and the injuries are 2 separate things that are independent of each other. But most fans will inevitably connect them.

AD getting injured, PJ rolling his ankle, Gaff spraining his knee. Those were all unplanned and independent of the Luka trade. Things just happened and unfortunately for Dallas, they're getting the shorter end of the stick now. I remember the playoffs in the early 2000s when Dallas had to face Duncan and the Spurs and Dirk had them nasty bone spurs that had to be surgically removed. Those were first or 2nd round exits year in year out. You need a fully healthy squad in the playoffs to go for a deep run or Boston will just trample all over you 4-0.



Trading Luka and AD injruy are not two seperate things. You go all in with on of the most injury prone superstars we ever had. that is what you get. It was obvious that he will be injured again sooner or later. Unfortunately this was very soon


Yeah. What I meant was AD getting injured in the same game, PJ getting injured in the same game, and Gaff spraining his ankle a game after wasn't planned. You can't and don't plan for these things. The narrative will be different if AD finished the game with 50-20 (which he was on track to do) and the win. I'm not happy with Nico as with all of you. But some things need to be taken in perspective.

AD finishing the game with 50-20 and Luka's first game as a Laker going like 1 for 8 from the 3 pt line. The story would have been different. But like I said, unlucky for Nico it turned out that way. And like Dirk41 said, maybe it's karma too.
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Post#85 » by Bob8 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:44 am

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MassimoPayne wrote:
arkuo wrote:

Trading Luka and the injuries are 2 separate things that are independent of each other. But most fans will inevitably connect them.

AD getting injured, PJ rolling his ankle, Gaff spraining his knee. Those were all unplanned and independent of the Luka trade. Things just happened and unfortunately for Dallas, they're getting the shorter end of the stick now. I remember the playoffs in the early 2000s when Dallas had to face Duncan and the Spurs and Dirk had them nasty bone spurs that had to be surgically removed. Those were first or 2nd round exits year in year out. You need a fully healthy squad in the playoffs to go for a deep run or Boston will just trample all over you 4-0.



Trading Luka and AD injruy are not two seperate things. You go all in with on of the most injury prone superstars we ever had. that is what you get. It was obvious that he will be injured again sooner or later. Unfortunately this was very soon


Yeah. What I meant was AD getting injured in the same game, PJ getting injured in the same game, and Gaff spraining his ankle a game after wasn't planned. You can't and don't plan for these things. The narrative will be different if AD finished the game with 50-20 (which he was on track to do) and the win. I'm not happy with Nico as with all of you. But some things need to be taken in perspective.

AD finishing the game with 50-20 and Luka's first game as a Laker going like 1 for 8 from the 3 pt line. The story would have been different. But like I said, unlucky for Nico it turned out that way. And like Dirk41 said, maybe it's karma too.


In track to score 50 points. :lol: AD has played 31 minutes already before his injury, which is another moronity by Kidd and Nico, to play a player coming from injury nonstop for first 3Q. Everything about AD game was planned by 2 idiots, bad luck has nothing with it.
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Post#86 » by arkuo » Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:11 am

Bob, you're on the ingore list. I can't see your post. Please feel free to not reply from here on out.
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Post#87 » by Bob8 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:30 am

arkuo wrote:Bob, you're on the ingore list. I can't see your post. Please feel free to not reply from here on out.


Who cares what you can see or not, apparently you see something. :lol:
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Post#88 » by Darren » Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:13 am

Injuries happen a lot. That's why team doesn't trade young core piece for ageing star. The Mavs is doing the unthinkable. I'm about to quit as a fan. I am still a big Lively fan and somewhat Kyrie fan for sure. I truely believe Lively could be as dominate as Shaq at 26. I think Lively and AD duo is a good combination against team like SAS and Boston.

To be frank, AD performs very well in the debut That's what a player can do. The awful trade has nothing to do with AD. AD has actually waived the trade kicker. It's sad for a trade like that. But it's good for Luka. The Mavs is about to waste Luka's career. Luka can now enjoy playing with Lebron and enjoy LA lifestyle with potentially a chance to team up with Jokic or Wemby soon. This is very good situation for Luka, salary aside.

Let's tank. Keep every core players rested. Bring in Sharp. Pull Kyrie and Klay off. This season is over. Let Kyrie coach the team and see what happen.
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Post#89 » by Archx » Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:27 am

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MassimoPayne wrote:They wanted to evaluate hin yesterday and we didn't hear anything?
Not a good sign


AD was at the game so maybe it's not as bad as we thought. But then again, Kidd skipping press conference for the first time is not a good sign either. In my opinion they are trying to figure out the fastest and safest way to bring him back. Them coming out saying he needs a surgery would be incredibly bad.

Brian Windhorst on Anthony Davis’s injury:

“I think he’s going to avoid surgery in the short term, but he’s going to be out a while from what I understand.”


Yeah Windbag is just guessing. He's just poking around and hope one thing hits. His batting average is very low. Tells me no one from Dallas is actually talking to him. He's usually connected to LA. Same with Ramona Shelbourne. I doubt Nico has him on speed dial.


You saw the tweet what Shams said? The point is AD is out few weeks to a month. That's already a lot of games. So if the injury is even worse than we think, now that will be a disaster for this team.

Darren wrote:Let's tank. Keep every core players rested. Bring in Sharp. Pull Kyrie and Klay off. This season is over. Let Kyrie coach the team and see what happen.


Why people can't understand that it is already too late to tank? Plus this team has good enough players to win some extra games as well. Tank is simply not possible at this point. Unless you're searching for players in 15+ draft range.

And good luck keeping Kyrie with that mentality or any other player that is about to become free agent. Nico will have to overpay big. Kyrie sounded like someone died in last press conference lol.
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Post#90 » by Bob8 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:39 am

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arkuo wrote:
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AD was at the game so maybe it's not as bad as we thought. But then again, Kidd skipping press conference for the first time is not a good sign either. In my opinion they are trying to figure out the fastest and safest way to bring him back. Them coming out saying he needs a surgery would be incredibly bad.

Brian Windhorst on Anthony Davis’s injury:

“I think he’s going to avoid surgery in the short term, but he’s going to be out a while from what I understand.”


Yeah Windbag is just guessing. He's just poking around and hope one thing hits. His batting average is very low. Tells me no one from Dallas is actually talking to him. He's usually connected to LA. Same with Ramona Shelbourne. I doubt Nico has him on speed dial.


You saw the tweet what Shams said? The point is AD is out few weeks to a month. That's already a lot of games. So if the injury is even worse than we think, now that will be a disaster for this team.

Darren wrote:Let's tank. Keep every core players rested. Bring in Sharp. Pull Kyrie and Klay off. This season is over. Let Kyrie coach the team and see what happen.


Why people can't understand that it is already too late to tank? Plus this team has good enough players to win some extra games as well. Tank is simply not possible at this point. Unless you're searching for players in 15+ draft range.

And good luck keeping Kyrie with that mentality or any other player that is about to become free agent. Nico will have to overpay big. Kyrie sounded like someone died in last press conference lol.


Injury is very likely worse than 2 weeks+, because they would have already said something in that case.

They will pay him 200 mio. It's difficult to find serious team with cap room, who will want him and pay him that money. So staying with Mavs is the most realistic situation.
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Post#91 » by arkuo » Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:43 am

Archx wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Archx wrote:
AD was at the game so maybe it's not as bad as we thought. But then again, Kidd skipping press conference for the first time is not a good sign either. In my opinion they are trying to figure out the fastest and safest way to bring him back. Them coming out saying he needs a surgery would be incredibly bad.

Brian Windhorst on Anthony Davis’s injury:

“I think he’s going to avoid surgery in the short term, but he’s going to be out a while from what I understand.”


Yeah Windbag is just guessing. He's just poking around and hope one thing hits. His batting average is very low. Tells me no one from Dallas is actually talking to him. He's usually connected to LA. Same with Ramona Shelbourne. I doubt Nico has him on speed dial.


You saw the tweet what Shams said? The point is AD is out few weeks to a month. That's already a lot of games. So if the injury is even worse than we think, now that will be a disaster for this team.

Darren wrote:Let's tank. Keep every core players rested. Bring in Sharp. Pull Kyrie and Klay off. This season is over. Let Kyrie coach the team and see what happen.


Why people can't understand that it is already too late to tank? Plus this team has good enough players to win some extra games as well. Tank is simply not possible at this point. Unless you're searching for players in 15+ draft range.

And good luck keeping Kyrie with that mentality or any other player that is about to become free agent. Nico will have to overpay big. Kyrie sounded like someone died in last press conference lol.



Yeah as it stands it does look like a 3 to 4 week thing. If he opts for surgery then he's pretty much out of the season.
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Post#92 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:21 pm

Not the perfect timing to write this but west is very weak... Spurs are improved but nothing special, sacto is bad, Suns are a mess, GSW is a play-in team.

If, a big if, two of AD/Lively/Gafford will come back after ASG we can stay in play-in zone and probably go to the PO.

For sure we are no more a contender without a Batman but tanking is not an option. So...
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Post#93 » by arkuo » Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:31 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:Not the perfect timing to write this but west is very weak... Spurs are improved but nothing special, sacto is bad, Suns are a mess, GSW is a play-in team.

If, a big if, two of AD/Lively/Gafford will come back after ASG we can stay in play-in zone and probably go to the PO.

For sure we are no more a contender without a Batman but tanking is not an option. So...


If tanking is not an option, then I can see the team just riding it out to see how far they could go if they can get into the playoffs.
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Post#94 » by Archx » Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:37 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:Not the perfect timing to write this but west is very weak... Spurs are improved but nothing special, sacto is bad, Suns are a mess, GSW is a play-in team.

If, a big if, two of AD/Lively/Gafford will come back after ASG we can stay in play-in zone and probably go to the PO.

For sure we are no more a contender without a Batman but tanking is not an option. So...



Gafford timetable is 14 days then he will be evaluated. So we can expect another 3 weeks for Gafford probably. And Lively is scheduled to return basically right before playoffs/play ins. AD (if no surgery) will miss around 10-12 games.
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Post#95 » by arkuo » Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:42 pm

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41Dirk41 wrote:Not the perfect timing to write this but west is very weak... Spurs are improved but nothing special, sacto is bad, Suns are a mess, GSW is a play-in team.

If, a big if, two of AD/Lively/Gafford will come back after ASG we can stay in play-in zone and probably go to the PO.

For sure we are no more a contender without a Batman but tanking is not an option. So...



Gafford timetable is 14 days then he will be evaluated. So we can expect another 3 weeks for Gafford probably. And Lively is scheduled to return basically right before playoffs/play ins. AD (if no surgery) will miss around 10-12 games.


If they somehow enter the playoff picture, their matchup is either OKC or Memphis at 1 or 2.
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Post#96 » by Archx » Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:14 pm

arkuo wrote:
Archx wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:Not the perfect timing to write this but west is very weak... Spurs are improved but nothing special, sacto is bad, Suns are a mess, GSW is a play-in team.

If, a big if, two of AD/Lively/Gafford will come back after ASG we can stay in play-in zone and probably go to the PO.

For sure we are no more a contender without a Batman but tanking is not an option. So...



Gafford timetable is 14 days then he will be evaluated. So we can expect another 3 weeks for Gafford probably. And Lively is scheduled to return basically right before playoffs/play ins. AD (if no surgery) will miss around 10-12 games.


If they somehow enter the playoff picture, their matchup is either OKC or Memphis at 1 or 2.


Honestly, really hard to tell right now. MEM could slip or even LAL could climb. Or even Mavs could climb if they somehow start winning again with easier schedule.

So all in all, there is a GOOD chance we could see Mavs and LAL in round 1 lol.
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Post#97 » by Bob8 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:02 pm

Archx wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Archx wrote:

Gafford timetable is 14 days then he will be evaluated. So we can expect another 3 weeks for Gafford probably. And Lively is scheduled to return basically right before playoffs/play ins. AD (if no surgery) will miss around 10-12 games.


If they somehow enter the playoff picture, their matchup is either OKC or Memphis at 1 or 2.


Honestly, really hard to tell right now. MEM could slip or even LAL could climb. Or even Mavs could climb if they somehow start winning again with easier schedule.

So all in all, there is a GOOD chance we could see Mavs and LAL in round 1 lol.


Everything is guessing at this point of course, but if I had to guess I would say Mavs 9-10 and Lakers 3-5. Mavs result depends a lot on, if Kyrie plays vast majority of remaining matches, if he can't, which is a real possibility, they can be easily out of play-in.
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Post#98 » by Andri » Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:26 pm

arkuo wrote:
MassimoPayne wrote:
arkuo wrote:

Trading Luka and the injuries are 2 separate things that are independent of each other. But most fans will inevitably connect them.

AD getting injured, PJ rolling his ankle, Gaff spraining his knee. Those were all unplanned and independent of the Luka trade. Things just happened and unfortunately for Dallas, they're getting the shorter end of the stick now. I remember the playoffs in the early 2000s when Dallas had to face Duncan and the Spurs and Dirk had them nasty bone spurs that had to be surgically removed. Those were first or 2nd round exits year in year out. You need a fully healthy squad in the playoffs to go for a deep run or Boston will just trample all over you 4-0.



Trading Luka and AD injruy are not two seperate things. You go all in with on of the most injury prone superstars we ever had. that is what you get. It was obvious that he will be injured again sooner or later. Unfortunately this was very soon


Yeah. What I meant was AD getting injured in the same game, PJ getting injured in the same game, and Gaff spraining his ankle a game after wasn't planned. You can't and don't plan for these things. The narrative will be different if AD finished the game with 50-20 (which he was on track to do) and the win. I'm not happy with Nico as with all of you. But some things need to be taken in perspective.

AD finishing the game with 50-20 and Luka's first game as a Laker going like 1 for 8 from the 3 pt line. The story would have been different. But like I said, unlucky for Nico it turned out that way. And like Dirk41 said, maybe it's karma too.


When you mismanage, it is easier for the bad luck to catch up
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Post#99 » by arkuo » Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:28 pm

Andri wrote:
arkuo wrote:
MassimoPayne wrote:

Trading Luka and AD injruy are not two seperate things. You go all in with on of the most injury prone superstars we ever had. that is what you get. It was obvious that he will be injured again sooner or later. Unfortunately this was very soon


Yeah. What I meant was AD getting injured in the same game, PJ getting injured in the same game, and Gaff spraining his ankle a game after wasn't planned. You can't and don't plan for these things. The narrative will be different if AD finished the game with 50-20 (which he was on track to do) and the win. I'm not happy with Nico as with all of you. But some things need to be taken in perspective.

AD finishing the game with 50-20 and Luka's first game as a Laker going like 1 for 8 from the 3 pt line. The story would have been different. But like I said, unlucky for Nico it turned out that way. And like Dirk41 said, maybe it's karma too.


When you mismanage, it is easier for the bad luck to catch up


I think those are 2 separate things (independent of each other). But we can agree to disagree.
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Post#100 » by arkuo » Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:30 pm

PJ rolling his ankle, Gaff spraining his knee, Lively getting a fracture, and whatever disease Dwight Powell has. You cant predict those. You can mismanage a team, which we will know in 3 years time, or manage things properly and still have injuries on top.

But because the Dallas fanbase is leaning on the emotional side, people get to connect those two together.

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