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[slos]

I don’t know what happens this season. Obviously playoff health is what matters the most. Whatever happens though I can’t see a blow up as an option next offseason.

Bucks can bring a couple of Kuzmas in summer and try again. You have the full MLE and then you can trade Pat + 2nds for another contributor. Do that and evaluate again in the deadline.

[RiotPunch]

At this point, I'm kind of expecting to get the news that Giannis wants out this off-season. Won't really be surprised or upset by it either.

Might be the best option. Front office doesn't have to go through the PR nightmare of trading Giannis like they did with Khris and can still get a huge haul before Giannis begins to breakdown.

Come on, we have to have at least 1 season after a Dame trade to see what we look like with Giannis surrounded with defenders, and a PG who plays hard.

Hard for me to imagine what this would look like. Finding a Lillard suitor and then making the pieces fit. I definitely don't trust Horst/Doc to pull off such a maneuver.

[fan230]

I don’t know what happens this season. Obviously playoff health is what matters the most. Whatever happens though I can’t see a blow up as an option next offseason.

Bucks can bring a couple of Kuzmas in summer and try again. You have the full MLE and then you can trade Pat + 2nds for another contributor. Do that and evaluate again in the deadline.

I doubt that Pat will be traded anywhere; best chance would be to Chicago, geographical neighbor of Milwaukee.

[pifhluk23]

According to this article after the 2025 draft we will have 5 picks available to trade. And we did not end up with rights to Mathias Lesort.

https://www.brewhoop.com/2025/2/11/24362199/milwaukee-bucks-khris-middleton-kyle-kuzma-trade-2026-second-round-pick

[soxperry]

Its kind of astonishing how fast it happened but several teams now go 5-6 deep with guys who, if they aren't all stars, are still very very good at their role and are just consistently good. Not Giannis level consistent but consistent none the less.

Cleveland
Boston
New York
OKC

We have 2 of those guys. Kuzma could become a third, we'll see. If his role is narrowed to repeatable actions, i like it. Bobby is so hot and cold. Brook seems more off than on offensively. None of our SGs good enough to qualify no matter how consistent they are except KPJ. I dont see him finding that any time soon. Prince no. Sims no. Rollins? There's at least some hope there but im not banking on it.

So how do we add two more real guys? I have to believe that our 31 1st and salary gets us one. Maybe we really could just outright sign the other on the MLE. But whoever said we need more Kuzmas might be right. Targeting sub prime targets with upside if the fit works out could be our meal ticket.

[randy84]

When your starting SG is averaging 3.8 pts per game and your starting SF was a league minimum street FA, there isn't any way you can be serious about contending for a championship. That is just having a bad GM.

[soxperry]

According to this article after the 2025 draft we will have 5 picks available to trade. And we did not end up with rights to Mathias Lesort.

https://www.brewhoop.com/2025/2/11/24362199/milwaukee-bucks-khris-middleton-kyle-kuzma-trade-2026-second-round-pick

Wow. I was completely oblivious to cash as a trade asset.

4M to San Antonio
2M to New York

I was wondering why San Antonio would just take a useless player off our hands and why New York would give us a usable piece for a washed vet. It all makes way more sense now.

[soxperry]

Might be the best option. Front office doesn't have to go through the PR nightmare of trading Giannis like they did with Khris and can still get a huge haul before Giannis begins to breakdown.

Come on, we have to have at least 1 season after a Dame trade to see what we look like with Giannis surrounded with defenders, and a PG who plays hard.

Hard for me to imagine what this would look like. Finding a Lillard suitor and then making the pieces fit. I definitely don't trust Horst/Doc to pull off such a maneuver.

Without Khris, Dame isnt going anywhere. You have to have at least one guy who can make tough shots in the clutch. Giannis is clutch in other ways but if our title hopes rest on him making a jumper, we are probably going home.

The second you trade Dame, you may have fixed one problem but youve now created another that us arguably a lot harder to fix on our asset budget.

I really do believe if we can just surround Dame with defenders it will be just fine.

[BroncoBuck]

Honestly what ultimately failed us wasn't even the guys we had imo. It was Horst and FO **** the bed every year in the draft. We haven't had one championship contending player developed or drafted in almost 10 years. Just review the draft history it's honestly the worst in the league. Not hitting on any draft pick screwed us royally.

DDV was literally a starter on our championship team. He got hurt in the playoffs and that’s why PJ had to play so much.

[midranger]

Obviously, we’ll see what happens this year in the playoffs. If Giannis and Dame are healthy AND it doesn’t look good, I think you have to kind of assume that it will continue to not look good, and the path to fielding a viable contender gets pretty narrow.

I think it would take unexpectedly ripping off some other team in a Dame trade for up and comers who hit. The pupu platter and pray approach.

Dame
For
Suggs
Carter
De Silva
Black

Go all in on defense and transition or something.

[pifhluk23]

When your starting SG is averaging 3.8 pts per game and your starting SF was a league minimum street FA, there isn't any way you can be serious about contending for a championship. That is just having a bad GM.

Yup. If you look at the contenders worst starters:

Boston - Jrue
OKC - Doesn't really count because they can throw Caruso in the starting lineup and Chet has been injured
Cleveland - Wade or Struss but 1-4 they are very strong
Knicks - 0 weak links
Nuggets - no weak links

After Giannis/Dame/Kuzma? we look absolutely pathetic compared to these teams.

[ABucksFan]

Honestly what ultimately failed us wasn't even the guys we had imo. It was Horst and FO **** the bed every year in the draft. We haven't had one championship contending player developed or drafted in almost 10 years. Just review the draft history it's honestly the worst in the league. Not hitting on any draft pick screwed us royally.

DDV was literally a starter on our championship team. He got hurt in the playoffs and that’s why PJ had to play so much.

My bad, 1 guy who ultimately got traded for Serge ibaka...what does that tell you? If we hit on any draft pick within this window the flexibility it would've provided us and options would've been massive.

[JEIS]

https://fadeawayworld.net/nba/dallas-mavericks/mavericks-tried-trade-luka-doncic-bucks-timberwolves-blockbuster-lakers-move

[rayallenscalves]

When your starting SG is averaging 3.8 pts per game and your starting SF was a league minimum street FA, there isn't any way you can be serious about contending for a championship. That is just having a bad GM.

Yup. If you look at the contenders worst starters:

Boston - Jrue
OKC - Doesn't really count because they can throw Caruso in the starting lineup and Chet has been injured
Cleveland - Wade or Struss but 1-4 they are very strong
Knicks - 0 weak links
Nuggets - no weak links

After Giannis/Dame/Kuzma? we look absolutely pathetic compared to these teams.

Here's the thing: Doc doesn't have to start AJax. It's not like he's our best option there. Doc is just too dense to figure it out.

[emunney]

According to this article after the 2025 draft we will have 5 picks available to trade. And we did not end up with rights to Mathias Lesort.

https://www.brewhoop.com/2025/2/11/24362199/milwaukee-bucks-khris-middleton-kyle-kuzma-trade-2026-second-round-pick

Knicks already had Lessort's rights, so this seems dubious. No citation?

ETA: Lessort went to the Wizards. Unbelievable.

[crkone]

According to this article after the 2025 draft we will have 5 picks available to trade. And we did not end up with rights to Mathias Lesort.

https://www.brewhoop.com/2025/2/11/24362199/milwaukee-bucks-khris-middleton-kyle-kuzma-trade-2026-second-round-pick

Knicks already had Lessort's rights, so this seems dubious. No citation?

Spotrac says the rights went to the Wizards.

[KidA24]

https://fadeawayworld.net/nba/dallas-mavericks/mavericks-tried-trade-luka-doncic-bucks-timberwolves-blockbuster-lakers-move

"According to Gery Woelful"

Who probably spoke to Nico who is trying to cover his own ass.

[Ron Swanson]

If by "5 picks" they're including the three 2nd rounders then sure. But our own 2031 1st and 2032 pick swap are still the only real assets there. Which is why I'm still baffled that they didn't do anything more at the deadline if they just end up trading that 2031 1st this offseason anyways.

[slos]

Starting AJAX has proved one thing. For years we were screaming “surround Giannis with shooters”. Now it looks like all you need around Giannis is athleticism and availability.

I mean Giannis is having a career season with a 4 ppg starting SG. Non shooting Jackson looks like a better fit than oftenly injured DDV or just shooting Beasley.

Flipping Midds for Kuz addresses that need even if it is a downgrade in terms of talent. Bucks are already too talented with Dame/Giannis.

Horst needs to finish this in offseason. He is already late since Bucks are close to wasting another season of Dame/Giannis with too limited offensively Jackson and too slow Brook.

Just do what it takes for some other starting SG. Green or GTJ are also too limited. Keep them for the bench along with Jackson. KPJ and Rollins are also OK for depth.

Just do what it takes for a starting big. I don’t know what fits better. It could be a SF with size to play Kuzma at PF and Giannis at C. It could be a lob threat C.

All I know is that two players are missing in a Dame/Kuzma/Giannis starting lineup and that Bucks will be more than fine with a Green/Trent/Jackson/Bobby/Brook bench.

[Profound23]

Starting AJAX has proved one thing. For years we were screaming “surround Giannis with shooters”. Now it looks like all you need around Giannis is athleticism and availability.

I mean Giannis is having a career season with a 4 ppg starting SG. Non shooting Jackson looks like a better fit than oftenly injured DDV or just shooting Beasley.

Flipping Midds for Kuz addresses that need even if it is a downgrade in terms of talent. Bucks are already too talented with Dame/Giannis.

Horst needs to finish this in offseason. He is already late since Bucks are close to wasting another season of Dame/Giannis with too limited offensively Jackson and too slow Brook.

Just do what it takes for some other starting SG. Green or GTJ are also too limited. Keep them for the bench along with Jackson. KPJ and Rollins are also OK for depth.

Just do what it takes for a starting big. I don’t know what fits better. It could be a SF with size to play Kuzma at PF and Giannis at C. It could be a lob threat C.

All I know is that two players are missing in a Dame/Kuzma/Giannis starting lineup and that Bucks will be more than fine with a Green/Trent/Jackson/Bobby/Brook bench.

I think there are times he need shooters, but you don't need to have a shooter like Dame or Curry who need the ball in their hands. Give Giannis a bunch of players who can defend and run the court with a few shooters off the bench and he is good.