Super Bowl LIX - Eagles wins 40-22

[azcatz11]

Is Jalen Hurts the greatest QB in Eagles history?

You can make that argument, obviously. I guess it would be him or McNabb.

[Mr B]

You ain’t lying, but santa had it coming though!!!!!!!!

And now you’re praying a player rapes someone so that the Eagles can have a shot at him. That’s some bad juju there my friend.

lol whatever you say brother. You suggested murder first, I was just going off of your energy.

All I asked you was if the Eagles were going to trade up to a top 5 pick. Then you started suggesting that he rape someone so the Eagles wouldn’t have to trade up. You’re the one that brought up rape not me. Go back and read it again if you want. I was simply asking a question.

[Mr B]

Isn't rape the number one means of procreation among Cowboys fans, followed by incest?

That's why they had to ban abortion in Texas, because otherwise they'd run out of people dumb enough to choose that loser franchise as their favorite team.

Damn all Eagles fans advocating rape. Stay classy Eagles fans.

[Jaydubb]

And now you’re praying a player rapes someone so that the Eagles can have a shot at him. That’s some bad juju there my friend.

lol whatever you say brother. You suggested murder first, I was just going off of your energy.

All I asked you was if the Eagles were going to trade up to a top 5 pick. Then you started suggesting that he rape someone so the Eagles wouldn’t have to trade up. You’re the one that brought up rape not me. Go back and read it again if you want. I was simply asking a question.

Isn't rape the number one means of procreation among Cowboys fans, followed by incest?

That's why they had to ban abortion in Texas, because otherwise they'd run out of people dumb enough to choose that loser franchise as their favorite team.

Damn all Eagles fans advocating rape. Stay classy Eagles fans.

Geez you’ve really snapped!!! Lmfaaaaoooo!!!

[wco81]

So, the second highest scoring team in the NFL was the Buffalo Bills. (1st Lions)

The Bills have a better offense than Philly, and the Chiefs beat the Bills right before playing Philly. The defense gave up 29 points which granted isn't a great a defensive showing but it was a much better showing than 40 against the Eagles.

They lost 2 games all season, and one was week 18 without starters. And they were winning games WITH Mahomes regularly throwing INTs.

This was a top-5 defense, that let the Eagles offense man handle them.

One TD was pick 6 and the other was an int inside the red zone.

But Eagles moved the ball well because Chiefs sold out for the run, leaving Brown and Smith in single coverage.

[therealbig3]

Bills may have put up better numbers overall, but I don’t think they had a better offense. At least the Eagles offense is just more consistent and more resilient in the playoffs. They can beat you in a bunch of different ways and so it’s harder to slow them down. The Chiefs sold out to stop Barkley, and Hurts killed them as a result.

Also, 17 of those 40 points were a direct result of turnovers that you can’t really put on the defense.

[El Turco]

The Chiefs got the Super Bowl on defense, and somehow their defense didn't show up for this game.

40 points was the most they gave up the entire season. They didn't even give up that many points when they removed their starters at the end of the season.

This was a defensive choke-job

Mahomes handed at least 14 of those points. In football points allowed is not solely on the defense.

Chiefs had 6 points going into the 4th quarter, that was not gonna cut it no matter how well their defense played.

[El Turco]

I think you guys didn’t understand my gas mask bong reference. I’m suggesting something might come out that would make him fall in the draft. It’s not a serious comment.lol

He would have to have murdered someone to fall from top 3 to last pick in the 1st round.

Yep. Oh, or rape somebody on live tv. That might get the job done

Seahawks special perhaps?

Before the 2012 NFL draft, Schneider drew a line against domestic violence for his Seahawks. “We would never take a player that struck a female or had a domestic-violence dispute like that,” Schneider said then.

Three years later, he did.

He drafted Frank Clark.

A police report stated that that he reportedly struck his girlfriend during an incident at a hotel outside Sandusky, Ohio. Witnesses told police the 20-year-old woman appeared to be unconscious.

For months, Clark worked out alone at a gym, with no trainers or the specialty draft-preparation academies top prospects use. Then the Seahawks made Clark their top pick in the 2015 draft. “Believe in me,” Clark said the night Seattle picked him.

Carroll and Schneider did, though many NFL teams took Clark off their draft boards.

[Cactus Jack]

He would have to have murdered someone to fall from top 3 to last pick in the 1st round.

Yep. Oh, or rape somebody on live tv. That might get the job done

Seahawks special perhaps?

Before the 2012 NFL draft, Schneider drew a line against domestic violence for his Seahawks. “We would never take a player that struck a female or had a domestic-violence dispute like that,” Schneider said then.

Three years later, he did.

He drafted Frank Clark.

A police report stated that that he reportedly struck his girlfriend during an incident at a hotel outside Sandusky, Ohio. Witnesses told police the 20-year-old woman appeared to be unconscious.

For months, Clark worked out alone at a gym, with no trainers or the specialty draft-preparation academies top prospects use. Then the Seahawks made Clark their top pick in the 2015 draft. “Believe in me,” Clark said the night Seattle picked him.

Carroll and Schneider did, though many NFL teams took Clark off their draft boards.

They did get a lot of **** for that. But tbf Clark did stay out of trouble for the most part after getting drafted. It was a good pick.

Pete was never afraid to take a gamble on certain guys. It didn't always work out (Percy Harvin). But a lot times it did. Marshawn, Bruce Irvin & Clark. Those guys stayed out of trouble for the most part when they got to Seattle.

They took less chances on guys later on. After the Malik McDowell incident, they changed how they viewed guys with character red flags. Btw the Niners famously took Reuben Foster that same year.

They passed on Jalen Carter because of the off-field stuff. He basically bombed his interview with them. Will Anderson was the guy they really wanted that year. But when Houston took him (3rd), they pivoted to Witherspoon. Which has not been a bad pick.

[WentzerWuver]

The Eagles SB parade will be this Friday at 11am. We will be there to celebrate on a dominate season with the Lombardi Trophy, so can not wait for it to start.

https://www.phila.gov/2025-02-11-city-and-philadelphia-eagles-announce-parade-route-road-closures-parking-restrictions-and-other-details-for-the-super-bowl-championship-celebration/

[El Turco]

Yep. Oh, or rape somebody on live tv. That might get the job done

Seahawks special perhaps?

Before the 2012 NFL draft, Schneider drew a line against domestic violence for his Seahawks. “We would never take a player that struck a female or had a domestic-violence dispute like that,” Schneider said then.

Three years later, he did.

He drafted Frank Clark.

A police report stated that that he reportedly struck his girlfriend during an incident at a hotel outside Sandusky, Ohio. Witnesses told police the 20-year-old woman appeared to be unconscious.

For months, Clark worked out alone at a gym, with no trainers or the specialty draft-preparation academies top prospects use. Then the Seahawks made Clark their top pick in the 2015 draft. “Believe in me,” Clark said the night Seattle picked him.

Carroll and Schneider did, though many NFL teams took Clark off their draft boards.

They did get a lot of **** for that. But tbf Clark did stay out of trouble for the most part after getting drafted. It was a good pick.

Pete was never afraid to take a gamble on certain guys. It didn't always work out (Percy Harvin). But a lot times it did. Marshawn, Bruce Irvin & Clark. Those guys stayed out of trouble for the most part when they got to Seattle.

They took less chances on guys later on. After the Malik McDowell incident, they changed how they viewed guys with character red flags. Btw the Niners famously took Reuben Foster that same year.

They passed on Jalen Carter because of the off-field stuff. He basically bombed his interview with them. Will Anderson was the guy they really wanted that year. But when Houston took him (3rd), they pivoted to Witherspoon. Which has not been a bad pick.

Yeah he and Schneider took a chance on lot of DV guys...

Schneider was adamant they had done their due diligence on the matter, claiming the organization has a zero-tolerance policy when it comes to hitting women.

"In my opinion, if you strike a woman, you're off our board."

However, upon further review, it becomes clear Schneider's statement about the policy only takes the draft and incoming prospects into consideration. As the Seahawks have repeatedly exhibited, they'll make an exception for those already in the NFL.

It didn't stop them from hiring coach Tom Cable in 2011, despite having just been fired by the Raiders in part to an altercation with an assistant and several allegations of domestic abuse against three women.

It didn't stop them from signing cornerback Tramaine Brock in 2017, just four months removed from his arrest on suspicion of domestic violence and child endangerment.

It didn't stop them from bringing cornerback Cary Williams aboard in 2015, despite committing an act of domestic violence of his own six years prior.

It didn't stop them from rostering defensive tackle Tony McDaniel on two separate occasions when he was charged with battery for pushing his then girlfriend to the ground in 2010.

Nor did it stop them from continuing to employ defensive tackle Jarran Reed, who allegedly assaulted his girlfriend the same year they signed Brock. In the police report, Reed was described to have dragged the woman by the wrist, eventually breaking down the door of the bathroom she later fled to. While the charges against Reed were dropped for unknown reasons, the NFL was confident enough in his involvement to suspend him for six games nearly two years later.

Reed was in the final year of his rookie contract at the time of his suspension, giving the Seahawks an easy path to move on. Instead, they gave him a new two-year contract the following offseason. Although the deal was cut short by a year for salary cap purposes last month, Seattle did attempt to retain Reed with hopes of restructuring. However, the Alabama alum declined, thus becoming a free agent to eventually sign with the Chiefs.

Seemingly having washed their hands of players with this kind of history - at least in terms of what is publicly known - the Seahawks quickly went back to the well. After making countless attempts to acquire Aldon Smith dating back to last offseason, Seattle finally came to an agreement with the troubled pass rusher on a one-year deal yesterday.

https://www.si.com/nfl/seahawks/news/seahawks-stance-against-domestic-abuse-continues-to-fall-on-deaf-ears

Reed is still with the team I believe.

[Cactus Jack]

Seahawks special perhaps?

They did get a lot of **** for that. But tbf Clark did stay out of trouble for the most part after getting drafted. It was a good pick.

Pete was never afraid to take a gamble on certain guys. It didn't always work out (Percy Harvin). But a lot times it did. Marshawn, Bruce Irvin & Clark. Those guys stayed out of trouble for the most part when they got to Seattle.

They took less chances on guys later on. After the Malik McDowell incident, they changed how they viewed guys with character red flags. Btw the Niners famously took Reuben Foster that same year.

They passed on Jalen Carter because of the off-field stuff. He basically bombed his interview with them. Will Anderson was the guy they really wanted that year. But when Houston took him (3rd), they pivoted to Witherspoon. Which has not been a bad pick.

Yeah he and Schneider took a chance on lot of DV guys...


Reed is still with the team I believe.

Yeah, it's no secret. Schneider is kind of full of **** in that regard. I think Pete just didn't really care tbh. He was willing to overlook it. He also had final say on everything. Schneider took orders from Pete.

[Micah Prescott]

The Chiefs got the Super Bowl on defense, and somehow their defense didn't show up for this game.

40 points was the most they gave up the entire season. They didn't even give up that many points when they removed their starters at the end of the season.

This was a defensive choke-job

Mahomes handed at least 14 of those points. In football points allowed is not solely on the defense.

Chiefs had 6 points going into the 4th quarter, that was not gonna cut it no matter how well their defense played.

Yes and no. The offense can not score if the defense can not get the hell off the field.

Time of Possession:

Eagles - 36:58
Chiefs - 23:02

Part of that is that the offense couldn't stay on the field I know.

But once the score gets out of hand? The QB then has to start forcing the ball deep into double coverage.


I will acknowledge though, the defense shouldn't be punished for a pick-6. And you're probably right that even if they kept it to just 21 points the Chiefs still lose. They still failed though as a defense either way. It was their worst game of the season.

[El Turco]

The Chiefs got the Super Bowl on defense, and somehow their defense didn't show up for this game.

40 points was the most they gave up the entire season. They didn't even give up that many points when they removed their starters at the end of the season.

This was a defensive choke-job

Mahomes handed at least 14 of those points. In football points allowed is not solely on the defense.

Chiefs had 6 points going into the 4th quarter, that was not gonna cut it no matter how well their defense played.

Yes and no. The offense can not score if the defense can not get the hell off the field.

Time of Possession:

Eagles - 36:58
Chiefs - 23:02

Part of that is that the offense couldn't stay on the field I know.

But once the score gets out of hand? The QB then has to start forcing the ball deep into double coverage.


I will acknowledge though, the defense shouldn't be punished for a pick-6. And you're probably right that even if they kept it to just 21 points the Chiefs still lose. They still failed though as a defense either way. It was their worst game of the season.

Yeah that's misleading. If you are down 30 points after your quarterback hands the other team 14 points, other team will keep running the ball to run the clock and the team down big will throw the ball which will skew the time of possession.

Chiefs defense did not have a great game, but offensive inaptitude what led to their demise. If Mahomes played as well as he did against Buffalo, they likely win the game--much of the credit goes to Eagles defense of course.

[RaoulDuke79]

Been watching the Joe Montana: Cool Under Pressure documentary on Peacock lately - it's pretty entertaining and brings back a lot of nostalgia from watching those teams as a kid in the 80's.

Also he was not a pussy loser.

[QB_Eagles]

The Chiefs got the Super Bowl on defense, and somehow their defense didn't show up for this game.

40 points was the most they gave up the entire season. They didn't even give up that many points when they removed their starters at the end of the season.

This was a defensive choke-job

Mahomes handed at least 14 of those points. In football points allowed is not solely on the defense.

Chiefs had 6 points going into the 4th quarter, that was not gonna cut it no matter how well their defense played.

Yes and no. The offense can not score if the defense can not get the hell off the field.

Time of Possession:

Eagles - 36:58
Chiefs - 23:02

Part of that is that the offense couldn't stay on the field I know.

But once the score gets out of hand? The QB then has to start forcing the ball deep into double coverage.


I will acknowledge though, the defense shouldn't be punished for a pick-6. And you're probably right that even if they kept it to just 21 points the Chiefs still lose. They still failed though as a defense either way. It was their worst game of the season.

Both teams had 13 drives.

More than half of the Chiefs drives resulted in 7 or fewer yards.

So the offense tried to get off the field more than the defense.

[wco81]

Been watching the Joe Montana: Cool Under Pressure documentary on Peacock lately - it's pretty entertaining and brings back a lot of nostalgia from watching those teams as a kid in the 80's.

Also he was not a pussy loser.

Somebody cited his SB stats, 11 TDs, 0 ints, 68% pass completion, 285 yards a game in 4 games.

I believe his SB passer rating is higher than Brady's or Mahomes'

[Micah Prescott]

I think the reason I am favoring blame towards the defense for the Chiefs is that the Chiefs offense was "meh" all season. They averaged 22 ppg and were ranked 15 overall. A completely average offense.

Mahomes himself was "average" this season. 93.5 QBR which ranked #17 overall in the NFL.

The defense on the other hand? ELITE. #4 overall in points allowed.

The Chiefs won game after game after game on the backs of their defense. And if they were to win a Super Bowl? It would have had to be with defense.

[QB_Eagles]

I think the reason I am favoring blame towards the defense for the Chiefs is that the Chiefs offense was "meh" all season. They averaged 22 ppg and were ranked 15 overall. A completely average offense.

Mahomes himself was "average" this season. 93.5 QBR which ranked #17 overall in the NFL.

The defense on the other hand? ELITE. #4 overall in points allowed.

The Chiefs won game after game after game on the backs of their defense. And if they were to win a Super Bowl? It would have had to be with defense.

The Chiefs defense was better than the offense, but not elite.

They spent 65% of their salary cap on the offense: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/position/_/year/2024/status/full

I don't think it's fair to blame the defense for the SB loss with the argument that the defense overachieved the whole season.

[RaoulDuke79]

Been watching the Joe Montana: Cool Under Pressure documentary on Peacock lately - it's pretty entertaining and brings back a lot of nostalgia from watching those teams as a kid in the 80's.

Also he was not a pussy loser.

Somebody cited his SB stats, 11 TDs, 0 ints, 68% pass completion, 285 yards a game in 4 games.

I believe his SB passer rating is higher than Brady's or Mahomes'

I still remember the complete and utter ass whooping against Denver - that was a fun game.

297 yards, 5 TD's/0 INT's for Montana

SF had 468 total yards/28 1st downs/0 turnovers vs Denver's 167 total yards/12 1st downs/4 turnovers(2 INT's by Elway)