**NBA Draft Discussion 2025**

[greg4012]

Just quick peeking and looking at Heat profile guys and Kam Jones out of Marquette is someone I want to look into more as we start building up more towards the draft and find clarity were we will be picking. He's a senior and an older prospect at 23 but also more ready to step in and contribute. Early look is he has a nasty lefty shot and kinda moves around like Harden.

Kam Jones was one of the more intriguing Guard prospects for me last year before he opted to return to school. Combo guard, not quite a POA defender, and lacks real size/athleticism to be a SG, but otherwise checks all the boxes aside from real upside. Hes leveled up his profile this season by becoming Marquette's lead facilitator and effectively doing exactly what Tyler Kolek was last year for them. His asst% and turnover% are super impressive.

Would be a worthwhile floor play. And who knows--betting on upperclassmen guards that are among the best players in the nation on winning teams occasionally produces a star no one saw coming bc of their perceived limited upside.

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Muy interesante.

Rudy Fernandez part 2? I like his first step and the energy he seems to play with.

But, I think he needs to fall in line behind Sergio de Larrea for me as my favorite Spanish prospect in this class. Unfortunately, Sergio is apparently out for a few weeks with a shoulder dislocation.

https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=sergio-de-larrea--hugo-gonzalez

[Daffy]

Maxime Raynaud looks like a good 2nd round developmental project.

[greg4012]

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Probably my favorite overall prospect in this class. Flagg still clears for me as to quality of prospect, but VJ is squarely top 3 in this class for me right now.

This is VJ producing in Olympic qualifiers against the best grown men from each country. Averaged 16.5 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 3.8 apg (2.3 to) on 57% shooting (38% from 3), and 2.5 stocks. 3rd on the Bahamian team in ppg (led in scoring per 36). 2nd in apg and rpg. Steals leader. All on a Bahamas team that included Deandre Ayton, Buddy Hield and Eric Gordon.

Top defensive guard prospect in this class with a 3 ball that looks legit and a growing on-ball game. I'm tempted to make Tyrese Maxey and Donovan Mitchell comparisons for his offensive game as a college prospect. I know the handle is basic right now.

Wish there was a way for Miami to have a shot here.

[DayofMourning]

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Probably my favorite overall prospect in this class. Flagg still clears for me as to quality of prospect, but VJ is squarely top 3 in this class for me right now.

This is VJ producing in Olympic qualifiers against the best grown men from each country. Averaged 16.5 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 3.8 apg (2.3 to) on 57% shooting (38% from 3), and 2.5 stocks. 3rd on the Bahamian team in ppg (led in scoring per 36). 2nd in apg and rpg. Steals leader. All on a Bahamas team that included Deandre Ayton, Buddy Hield and Eric Gordon.

Top defensive guard prospect in this class with a 3 ball that looks legit and a growing on-ball game. I'm tempted to make Tyrese Maxey and Donovan Mitchell comparisons for his offensive game as a college prospect. I know the handle is basic right now.

Wish there was a way for Miami to have a shot here.

Just need some luck like the Hawks and a few other teams have had with the new format. If we can jump anywhere into the top 4, we can get him.

Would absolutely love an athlete who can constantly pressure the rim.

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Probably my favorite overall prospect in this class. Flagg still clears for me as to quality of prospect, but VJ is squarely top 3 in this class for me right now.

This is VJ producing in Olympic qualifiers against the best grown men from each country. Averaged 16.5 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 3.8 apg (2.3 to) on 57% shooting (38% from 3), and 2.5 stocks. 3rd on the Bahamian team in ppg (led in scoring per 36). 2nd in apg and rpg. Steals leader. All on a Bahamas team that included Deandre Ayton, Buddy Hield and Eric Gordon.

Top defensive guard prospect in this class with a 3 ball that looks legit and a growing on-ball game. I'm tempted to make Tyrese Maxey and Donovan Mitchell comparisons for his offensive game as a college prospect. I know the handle is basic right now.

Wish there was a way for Miami to have a shot here.

Just need some luck like the Hawks and a few other teams have had with the new format. If we can jump anywhere into the top 4, we can get him.

Would absolutely love an athlete who can constantly pressure the rim.

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[DayofMourning]

I think my top 5 right now would be:

1. Flagg. Dude can do it all. Impactful player.

2. Harper. Plays the game at his pace. Knows how to get points in any situation.

3. VJ. Aggressive, in your face type player. Commits to both O and D.

4. Bailey. Takes and makes tough shots. Havent seen enough easy plays consistently.

5. Kasparas. Does a little bit of everything. Efficient. Is he a dog though...?

[greg4012]

I think my top 5 right now would be:

1. Flagg. Dude can do it all. Impactful player.

2. Harper. Plays the game at his pace. Knows how to get points in any situation.

3. VJ. Aggressive, in your face type player. Commits to both O and D.

4. Bailey. Takes and makes tough shots. Havent seen enough easy plays consistently.

5. Kasparas. Does a little bit of everything. Efficient. Is he a dog though...?

Thats my clear top 3 too. Currently see it as a tier break and I still need to see more to give pecking order after. Working thoughts:

Flagg
Harper
VJ

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Tre Johnson
Kasparas
Ace Bailey
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Jeremiah Fears
Sergio de Larrea (my wild card prospect right now)
Derik Queen
Kon Knueppel
Asa Newell
Rasheer Fleming

[MettaWorldPanda]

If we end up with our lottery pick this year i doubt we’ll be making two picks this year. Most likely that GSW 1st gets traded for a pick in 2026 or 2027.

[RexBoyWonder]

If we end up with our lottery pick this year i doubt we’ll be making two picks this year. Most likely that GSW 1st gets traded for a pick in 2026 or 2027.

I rather move up. Get into the top 10 and swing for a offensive high upside player.

need it like the desert needs rain.

[MettaWorldPanda]

If we end up with our lottery pick this year i doubt we’ll be making two picks this year. Most likely that GSW 1st gets traded for a pick in 2026 or 2027.

I rather move up. Get into the top 10 and swing for a offensive high upside player.

need it like the desert needs rain.

If that opportunity happens sure but most likely it won’t cause teams will not pass on that same high upside player you want for that extra late teens first. Looks like GSW is about to go on a run. I would say it’s highly unlikely we make two picks. The extra pick will be used in trade to block the Hornets and maintain pick trade flexibility for the future picks.

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Jason Richardson's son. Played HS ball down here at Columbus.

Wish he had his pops hops--his brother is a 6'6 wing at Columbus that appears to have the hops but less of the rest of the guard game right now.

I like the look of Jase's onball game. He looks dynamic navigating the court and even operating into the teeth of defense, finishing with craft, and scoring on 3 levels. Seems to be squarely a below the rim player, but looks to have a 3 ball. Def one to monitor as he hopefully continues to get a larger role at MSU.

[RexBoyWonder]

Ware was a step in the right direction.

We need to focus on guys with elite tools, that at least has some type of high ceiling.

No more of these BS culture hard working seniors chit career bench role player types.

Looks like this team is going to suck for the next few years, we need to spend this time developing raw elite tools players that might become game changers in 2028/2029 if everything works out.

[greg4012]

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[Shootit]

ESPNs guess on our pick:

Collin Murray-Boyles, PF/C, South Carolina
Sophomore | TS%: 62.6%

Scouting report: Murray-Boyles' feel for the game and defensive versatility have been on full display in a Draymond Green-type role for South Carolina; he slides all over the floor as he's tasked with slowing down guards and big men alike, while racking up rebounds, steals and blocks. He's an excellent passer whose unselfishness and smarts are somewhat wasted on a disappointing South Carolina team currently 0-10 in the SEC, making for a problematic evaluation from a team context standpoint. Murray-Boyles won't be a fit for every NBA team -- he's undersized and lacks perimeter shooting (6-of-22 from 3, 66% on free throws) -- and is a little stuck between positions, with some questions to answer about how he scores at the NBA level as a skilled but unconventional big. Still, an out-of-the-box, playoff-caliber team will likely be attracted to all the excellent role-playing qualities he brings. -- Givony

NBA fit and intel: The Heat got this pick from Golden State in the Butler trade, with the Warriors retaining top-10 protections but giving Miami a presumptive point of entry back into the first round. The Heat will be in position to recenter their team around Bam Adebayo, Tyler Herro and a host of younger players, including emerging rookie Kel'el Ware. Murray-Boyles' toughness, smarts and productivity could check some of the boxes this front office values. He'd fit nicely on a team that can put rim protection behind him and allow him to slide into a more natural role at the 4.

[MartyConlonJr]

ESPNs guess on our pick:

Collin Murray-Boyles, PF/C, South Carolina
Sophomore | TS%: 62.6%

Scouting report: Murray-Boyles' feel for the game and defensive versatility have been on full display in a Draymond Green-type role for South Carolina; he slides all over the floor as he's tasked with slowing down guards and big men alike, while racking up rebounds, steals and blocks. He's an excellent passer whose unselfishness and smarts are somewhat wasted on a disappointing South Carolina team currently 0-10 in the SEC, making for a problematic evaluation from a team context standpoint. Murray-Boyles won't be a fit for every NBA team -- he's undersized and lacks perimeter shooting (6-of-22 from 3, 66% on free throws) -- and is a little stuck between positions, with some questions to answer about how he scores at the NBA level as a skilled but unconventional big. Still, an out-of-the-box, playoff-caliber team will likely be attracted to all the excellent role-playing qualities he brings. -- Givony

NBA fit and intel: The Heat got this pick from Golden State in the Butler trade, with the Warriors retaining top-10 protections but giving Miami a presumptive point of entry back into the first round. The Heat will be in position to recenter their team around Bam Adebayo, Tyler Herro and a host of younger players, including emerging rookie Kel'el Ware. Murray-Boyles' toughness, smarts and productivity could check some of the boxes this front office values. He'd fit nicely on a team that can put rim protection behind him and allow him to slide into a more natural role at the 4.

Came here to post this but read through 5 pages first to check he hadn't been mentioned yet - you beat me to it!

He sounds like something Heat would do. Positionless basketball, great defender and struggles to generate offense. Not sure I want more of this or not.

[Shootit]

ESPNs guess on our pick:

Collin Murray-Boyles, PF/C, South Carolina
Sophomore | TS%: 62.6%

Scouting report: Murray-Boyles' feel for the game and defensive versatility have been on full display in a Draymond Green-type role for South Carolina; he slides all over the floor as he's tasked with slowing down guards and big men alike, while racking up rebounds, steals and blocks. He's an excellent passer whose unselfishness and smarts are somewhat wasted on a disappointing South Carolina team currently 0-10 in the SEC, making for a problematic evaluation from a team context standpoint. Murray-Boyles won't be a fit for every NBA team -- he's undersized and lacks perimeter shooting (6-of-22 from 3, 66% on free throws) -- and is a little stuck between positions, with some questions to answer about how he scores at the NBA level as a skilled but unconventional big. Still, an out-of-the-box, playoff-caliber team will likely be attracted to all the excellent role-playing qualities he brings. -- Givony

NBA fit and intel: The Heat got this pick from Golden State in the Butler trade, with the Warriors retaining top-10 protections but giving Miami a presumptive point of entry back into the first round. The Heat will be in position to recenter their team around Bam Adebayo, Tyler Herro and a host of younger players, including emerging rookie Kel'el Ware. Murray-Boyles' toughness, smarts and productivity could check some of the boxes this front office values. He'd fit nicely on a team that can put rim protection behind him and allow him to slide into a more natural role at the 4.

Came here to post this but read through 5 pages first to check he hadn't been mentioned yet - you beat me to it!

He sounds like something Heat would do. Positionless basketball, great defender and struggles to generate offense. Not sure I want more of this or not.

Yea, need to read up more on him, but the breakdown from the article didn't really excite me about the player. I know this would be pick #18 and not a lottery pick, but agree that it sounds like another undersized, high effort but capped offensive player.

[greg4012]

Big issue is he's not a shooter or rim protector and effectively has a modern Center's game in a PF's body. Draymond is a fun name to throw around, but think more along the lines of Jarace Walker (2nd year PF for the Pacers)

[MartyConlonJr]

6'7 231 pound guy, who can't shoot, but can defend multiple positions, is strong and has a post game and from what I watched, has good footwork. Also a great passer at his position that can playmake.

He actually is the exact same size as Jimmy Butler. Wonder if he could slot in at SF instead of PF or C. With Kelel Ware being a finesse center who can shoot the three, he could pull away bigs from the paint and let someone like this operate against smaller guys inside (assuming he was actually any good).

Again not advocating for this pick, I think it is time we got a player with efficient offense, but having I could see how our setup could allow someone like this guy.