2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I'm not trading Bam for a net negative value type of player, but let's say Giannis requested a trade. I'd offer Bam in a heartbeat and build around Herro and Giannis. You can preach defense all the way you want but if a max player lacks offensive bags, this team is going nowhere as opposed to Tyler which fit today's game and would be easier to build around.

Bam contributes more to winning than Herro when it matters most, always has and always will and he is the better player period but yes if a dominant player like giannis requested Miami and the only way to get him was to trade Bam you obviously do it because you can’t land a player like that trading Herro.

[3ballbomber]

Exactly. He a good player. Yes he compensate for the team in a lot of ways, but is he worth a max contract? Hell no. He is the 3rd option on a great team at best.

Unfortunately in this wack new nba landscape many don’t deserve their contract & are getting paid off of potential. Bam
Is just another on the list who got paid too much too early w/out properly earning it.

Yeah I mean it depends how you define a max contract. Some people go by what a player can get on a free market, in which case the top 5-10 players are all actually underpaid, and Bam probably is about fair market value. But if you measure a max purely by the players who get it now, then yeah Bam's middle of the pack and arguably a bit overpaid. All depends how you view the CBA.

Bam's definitely not in the bottom tier of max level players though, unless you completely ignore defense. You're getting Gobert level contributions from a guy who is still a positive impact offensive player, that's pretty huge.

Also you have to think about something like the Olympics, he was a guy everyone raved about and many considered him the most important player on that squad. What he does really is hard to replace.

Bam is a quality player that i want on my team. Im no money/contract guy & come frm an era where you earned your money. Imo he has gotten paid too much too early like many players today. If he was still to earn his bag wld we have seen a diff Bam this season?

This is the new era of NBA though…..part of the reason why the league is the way it is today & the all-star game suffers because players just don’t give a damn. Back in the day you show out in all star weekend to earn your money or make a nm for yourself vs the best of the best.

[marson]

I'm not trading Bam for a net negative value type of player, but let's say Giannis requested a trade. I'd offer Bam in a heartbeat and build around Herro and Giannis. You can preach defense all the way you want but if a max player lacks offensive bags, this team is going nowhere as opposed to Tyler which fit today's game and would be easier to build around.

Bam contributes more to winning than Herro when it matters most, always has and always will and he is the better player period but yes if a dominant player like giannis requested Miami and the only way to get him was to trade Bam you obviously do it because you can’t land a player like that trading Herro.

It’s always a comparison of Player Y vs Player X when it comes to Bam for my amigo here, but that’s not the point.

The real focus is on the fit. Both Giannis and Bam have overlapping qualities, but if I had to choose which player would work better with Herro, I’d pick Giannis ten times out of ten.

And don’t forget, Giannis has been dropping hints about wanting to move to a bigger market. We Stay tuned.

[Beenie]

I don't want to get confused for 3ammy, but a lot of this board is vastly underestimating Bam's stabilizing effect on these squads, especially defensively. I get his offense is herky jerky and frustrating due to the feeling he's wasting some potential, but he's doing it all on the other end of the floor and absolutely carrying, and its being taken for granted. Some teams would take a guy with his defense that can only give you mediocre offense and pay him (think Gobert), but Bam actually gives you average or even plus offense at times.

I would bet money if you replaced Bam with Ball straight up next year, with no other roster changes, that goes from a 45-50 win squad to a 30 win team.

If Jovic develops into the player some of this board seem to think he’s capable of becoming, and Ware taking a step next year, I personally think Melo would be a fantastic addition to this young core.

His vision and ball skills would be a great asset to those guys, particularly Ware.

I also think Melos ceiling is incredibly high.

If Spo can coach some of the undisciplined behaviors out of his game, he has MVP potential.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I'm not trading Bam for a net negative value type of player, but let's say Giannis requested a trade. I'd offer Bam in a heartbeat and build around Herro and Giannis. You can preach defense all the way you want but if a max player lacks offensive bags, this team is going nowhere as opposed to Tyler which fit today's game and would be easier to build around.

Bam contributes more to winning than Herro when it matters most, always has and always will and he is the better player period but yes if a dominant player like giannis requested Miami and the only way to get him was to trade Bam you obviously do it because you can’t land a player like that trading Herro.

It’s always a comparison of Player Y vs Player X when it comes to Bam for my amigo here, but that’s not the point.

The real focus is on the fit. Both Giannis and Bam have overlapping qualities, but if I had to choose which player would work better with Herro, I’d pick Giannis ten times out of ten.

And don’t forget, Giannis has been dropping hints about wanting to move to a bigger market. We Stay tuned.

You basically compared them so I did the same lol

[3ballbomber]

I'm not trading Bam for a net negative value type of player, but let's say Giannis requested a trade. I'd offer Bam in a heartbeat and build around Herro and Giannis. You can preach defense all the way you want but if a max player lacks offensive bags, this team is going nowhere as opposed to Tyler which fit today's game and would be easier to build around.

Bam contributes more to winning than Herro when it matters most, always has and always will and he is the better player period but yes if a dominant player like giannis requested Miami and the only way to get him was to trade Bam you obviously do it because you can’t land a player like that trading Herro.

It’s always a comparison of Player Y vs Player X when it comes to Bam for my amigo here, but that’s not the point.

The real focus is on the fit. Both Giannis and Bam have overlapping qualities, but if I had to choose which player would work better with Herro, I’d pick Giannis ten times out of ten.

And don’t forget, Giannis has been dropping hints about wanting to move to a bigger market. We Stay tuned.

As expected. The defensiveness, sensitive & the need to protect is high level fan boy homer cringe sh*t

[wade44]

Robinson and Rozier glued to the bench hopefully permanently

[3ballbomber]

Claims Bams the better player yet who’s the all-star.

#twit

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Claima Bams the better player yet who’s the all-star.

#twit

Herros better than Luka!!!!

#Remedial

[greg4012]

I don't want to get confused for 3ammy, but a lot of this board is vastly underestimating Bam's stabilizing effect on these squads, especially defensively. I get his offense is herky jerky and frustrating due to the feeling he's wasting some potential, but he's doing it all on the other end of the floor and absolutely carrying, and its being taken for granted. Some teams would take a guy with his defense that can only give you mediocre offense and pay him (think Gobert), but Bam actually gives you average or even plus offense at times.

I would bet money if you replaced Bam with Ball straight up next year, with no other roster changes, that goes from a 45-50 win squad to a 30 win team.

If Jovic develops into the player some of this board seem to think he’s capable of becoming, and Ware taking a step next year, I personally think Melo would be a fantastic addition to this young core.

His vision and ball skills would be a great asset to those guys, particularly Ware.

I also think Melos ceiling is incredibly high.

If Spo can coach some of the undisciplined behaviors out of his game, he has MVP potential.

Has Lamelo every shot close to league average efficiency? Even in the Australian league?

Just last season Terry Rozier was literally putting up near identical stats to Lamelo on a terrible Charlotte team on better efficiency...

[Beenie]

I don't want to get confused for 3ammy, but a lot of this board is vastly underestimating Bam's stabilizing effect on these squads, especially defensively. I get his offense is herky jerky and frustrating due to the feeling he's wasting some potential, but he's doing it all on the other end of the floor and absolutely carrying, and its being taken for granted. Some teams would take a guy with his defense that can only give you mediocre offense and pay him (think Gobert), but Bam actually gives you average or even plus offense at times.

I would bet money if you replaced Bam with Ball straight up next year, with no other roster changes, that goes from a 45-50 win squad to a 30 win team.

If Jovic develops into the player some of this board seem to think he’s capable of becoming, and Ware taking a step next year, I personally think Melo would be a fantastic addition to this young core.

His vision and ball skills would be a great asset to those guys, particularly Ware.

I also think Melos ceiling is incredibly high.

If Spo can coach some of the undisciplined behaviors out of his game, he has MVP potential.

Has Lamelo every shot close to league average efficiency? Even in the Australian league?

Just last season Terry Rozier was literally putting up near identical stats to Lamelo on a terrible Charlotte team on better efficiency...

On a bad team and takes a lot of bad shots

Spo would be tasked with coaching some of his bad behaviors out of him

But I’m not concerned with that at this stage of his young career.

His size, vision, handling, speed, ball skills are uniquely impressive.

And again, he, imo, would accentuate Mia’s young bigs and do so on the same timeline as them

[greg4012]

If Jovic develops into the player some of this board seem to think he’s capable of becoming, and Ware taking a step next year, I personally think Melo would be a fantastic addition to this young core.

His vision and ball skills would be a great asset to those guys, particularly Ware.

I also think Melos ceiling is incredibly high.

If Spo can coach some of the undisciplined behaviors out of his game, he has MVP potential.

Has Lamelo every shot close to league average efficiency? Even in the Australian league?

Just last season Terry Rozier was literally putting up near identical stats to Lamelo on a terrible Charlotte team on better efficiency...

On a bad team and takes a lot of bad shots

Spo would be tasked with coaching some of his bad behaviors out of him

But I’m not concerned with that at this stage of his young career.

His size, vision, handling, speed, ball skills are uniquely impressive.

And again, he, imo, would accentuate Mia’s young bigs and do so on the same timeline as them

He has not. Ever in his career since HS.

Terry put up identical stats last season.

I do think he can improve. Idk if hes that dude tho. Only started over 40 games once in his career to date.

[Kobewade11]

If Jovic develops into the player some of this board seem to think he’s capable of becoming, and Ware taking a step next year, I personally think Melo would be a fantastic addition to this young core.

His vision and ball skills would be a great asset to those guys, particularly Ware.

I also think Melos ceiling is incredibly high.

If Spo can coach some of the undisciplined behaviors out of his game, he has MVP potential.

I like Jovic, I want to like him more but he’s got some knucklehead tendencies we gotta clean up

[Beenie]

If Jovic develops into the player some of this board seem to think he’s capable of becoming, and Ware taking a step next year, I personally think Melo would be a fantastic addition to this young core.

His vision and ball skills would be a great asset to those guys, particularly Ware.

I also think Melos ceiling is incredibly high.

If Spo can coach some of the undisciplined behaviors out of his game, he has MVP potential.

I like Jovic, I want to like him more but he’s got some knucklehead tendencies we gotta clean up

I’m not a Jovic believer, personally.

I’ve said that much many times and advocate for trading him.

That said, certainly seems like Mia intends on building a Ware/Jovic front court tandem, and if that’s the case, a dynamic playmaking perimeter player like Melo whose young and can grow with them would be ideal

[Beenie]

Has Lamelo every shot close to league average efficiency? Even in the Australian league?

Just last season Terry Rozier was literally putting up near identical stats to Lamelo on a terrible Charlotte team on better efficiency...

On a bad team and takes a lot of bad shots

Spo would be tasked with coaching some of his bad behaviors out of him

But I’m not concerned with that at this stage of his young career.

His size, vision, handling, speed, ball skills are uniquely impressive.

And again, he, imo, would accentuate Mia’s young bigs and do so on the same timeline as them

He has not. Ever in his career since HS.

Terry put up identical stats last season.

I do think he can improve. Idk if hes that dude tho. Only started over 40 games once in his career to date.

“That dude” isn’t on this roster currently and in fact this roster is full of players who have virtually 0.00% shot of ever being “that dude”

Melo’s percentage is far greater imo

[DayofMourning]

If Jovic develops into the player some of this board seem to think he’s capable of becoming, and Ware taking a step next year, I personally think Melo would be a fantastic addition to this young core.

His vision and ball skills would be a great asset to those guys, particularly Ware.

I also think Melos ceiling is incredibly high.

If Spo can coach some of the undisciplined behaviors out of his game, he has MVP potential.

I like Jovic, I want to like him more but he’s got some knucklehead tendencies we gotta clean up

I’m not a Jovic believer, personally.

I’ve said that much many times and advocate for trading him.

That said, certainly seems like Mia intends on building a Ware/Jovic front court tandem, and if that’s the case, a dynamic playmaking perimeter player like Melo whose young and can grow with them would be ideal

Ware and Jovic def have chemistry. They need more floor time together.

[marson]

I like Jovic, I want to like him more but he’s got some knucklehead tendencies we gotta clean up

I’m not a Jovic believer, personally.

I’ve said that much many times and advocate for trading him.

That said, certainly seems like Mia intends on building a Ware/Jovic front court tandem, and if that’s the case, a dynamic playmaking perimeter player like Melo whose young and can grow with them would be ideal

Ware and Jovic def have chemistry. They need more floor time together.

We looked better when both are coming off the bench. Our bench has zero identity now.

[powerball1373]

Uh wtf? Damnit I already know I'm jinxing this by posting... oh well.

[Heat_Down_Under]

Herro is one of the best bang for buck players in the league.. how many players in the 2025 all star game have a lower yearly salary than Herro?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Read on Twitter

One of the biggest, if not the biggest question for the final 30 games of the season……which version of Herro is the real Herro. Is it the Herro from the 1st 40 games this season or is it the current Herro we’ve seen for the last 11 or so games now that teams have adjusted to his play and our guarding him tighter now. Was he just riding a hot hand and high confidence against weaker coverages to start the season? Will the all star break help him with him getting some much needed rest outside of the game? Will being in the presence of majority of the leagues best players unlock something for him or give him some added motivation?

For a fanbase so concerned with contracts, Herro is paid $30M to score at a high level and give us some decent playmaking. He has to score and he has to do it at a high and efficient level to live up to his contract, there is no way around it