Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Sign Pete Nance to 2-way

[fansinceforever]

Green has no shake to his game so the threat of beating his man is non existent. Love him but I don't see a mid range or all the way to hole game developing for him.

They run that curl behind the passer where he catches and shoots from Midrange. That seems to work occasionally but right now he can't do it on his own.

[Profound23]

Bucks back-to-back games this year first game/second game:
Nets (loss 115-102)/Celtics (loss 119-108)
Jazz (win 123-100)/Knicks (loss 116-94)
Raptors(win 99-85)/Pistons (win OT 127-120) I must admit this was a great game
Pacers (win 129-117)/Hornets (win 125-119)
Pistons (win 128-107)/Hawks (loss 119-104)
Cavaliers (loss 124-101)/Wizards (win 112-101)
Kings (win 130-115)/Magic (win 122-93)
Jazz (win 125-110)/Trailblazers (loss 125-112)
Grizzlies (loss 132-119)/Thunder (loss 125-96)
76ers (win 135-127)/Warriors (loss 125-111)

First game 7-3
Second game 4-6

Those four wins against Pistons (in OT), Hornets (without four of their players including Melo), Wizards (down to 9 active players), and Magic (without Franz or Mo)

I believe if we bench Giannis, Dame, and even Lopez in the second half of back-to-backs we probably have the same exact record. There is no reason to play them both in the second game when it is against teams like Boston, GS, NYK, or OKC. Worst case scenario we maybe lose two of those games and are 2-8 on the second half of back-to-backs. Ok, but then imo Giannis and Dame are both healthier and not missing as many games. Giannis is probably still playing right now. So far he has missed 11 games this season, and the last five because of ligament injury. So if he missed 11 games anyways, doesn't it make sense for those 11 games (or in this case 10) to be the second half of back-to-backs. Dame has missed eight.

I understand the counter argument being even if we held him out of B2B's, Giannis/Dame could still have the same injuries. I still think it's smart for the rest of the season and next season to test the theory out.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

im curious how many games everybody thinks giannis will have per season on his next supermax. with the 2nd apron and all the jazz associated with it...it kinda changes how much superstars are "automatically worth". i mean if theyre injury risk guys. i think what dallas did was kinda dumb with lukas age...literally nicos a bum for even thinking about this kinda stuff at lukas age.... but what if luka was 31 or 32 and had missed several playoffs and was dealing with chronic stuff. like then what about the supermax?

doesnt a supermax on a guy that is guaranteed injuries on any stretch of heavy use almost automatically disqualify themselves? basically gaurantee a run of the mediocre "herb years" as far as outcomes go?

this isnt a trade giannis post. right now no way.... but just wondering what that next contract looks like and wtf ability you have to team build if hes a 40-50 game guy just to make sure hes half way right every playoff season. the seasons he cant get right just become a waste of a season.

something to think about if youre a gm these days

[raferfenix]

Yes we know the drill with Gery. But he was right on Kuzma I'll give him that.

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Couple notes from his blog yesterday:

According two NBA officials, the Mavs had interactions with at least two other teams besides the Lakers. They claimed the Mavs also had conversations with the Bucks and Timberwolves...According to one source, the Mavs reached out to the Bucks. But the Bucks made it clear to Mavs they wouldn’t trade Antetokounmpo even though his future with the team is murky....The NBA officials I contacted regarding the Doncic-Davis declined to divulge specifics of the Mavs talks with the Bucks and Timberwolves, but they were adamant those talks took place.

A source close to the Wizards told me that, while they were excited to acquire Middleton, they were almost giddy about acquiring AJ Johnson from the Bucks.

The Bucks chose Johnson with the 23rd overall pick in the 2024 draft, but I’m told some player personnel officials in the Wizards organization regarded Johnson as a late lottery selection, or a top 14 pick.

More than a few NBA officials were surprised the Bucks didn’t move Bobby Portis at the trade deadline...In addition to being properly compensated, there have been whispers Portis is seeking a long-term deal. Sources also added the Bucks had given Mark Bartelstein, Portis’ power agent, permission to contact other teams about a trade.

https://woelfelspressbox.com/2025/02/bucks-rejected-mavs-overtures-for-antetokounmpo/

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Yes we know the drill with Gery. But he was right on Kuzma I'll give him that.

Read on Twitter

Couple notes from his blog yesterday:

According two NBA officials, the Mavs had interactions with at least two other teams besides the Lakers. They claimed the Mavs also had conversations with the Bucks and Timberwolves...According to one source, the Mavs reached out to the Bucks. But the Bucks made it clear to Mavs they wouldn’t trade Antetokounmpo even though his future with the team is murky....The NBA officials I contacted regarding the Doncic-Davis declined to divulge specifics of the Mavs talks with the Bucks and Timberwolves, but they were adamant those talks took place.

A source close to the Wizards told me that, while they were excited to acquire Middleton, they were almost giddy about acquiring AJ Johnson from the Bucks.

The Bucks chose Johnson with the 23rd overall pick in the 2024 draft, but I’m told some player personnel officials in the Wizards organization regarded Johnson as a late lottery selection, or a top 14 pick.

More than a few NBA officials were surprised the Bucks didn’t move Bobby Portis at the trade deadline...In addition to being properly compensated, there have been whispers Portis is seeking a long-term deal. Sources also added the Bucks had given Mark Bartelstein, Portis’ power agent, permission to contact other teams about a trade.

https://woelfelspressbox.com/2025/02/bucks-rejected-mavs-overtures-for-antetokounmpo/

well... so much to unbox there.

luka for giannis straight up flip a coin. i'll take our guy because hes "our guy"...but as far as a basketball move we probabaly could have gotten additional compensation for what luka actually moved for. id need to have seen that.

aj johnson....he checks some serious boxes. but still a powerball ticket. most likely he flames out. 2nd becomes a ppgz guy for a tanker. being a winner seems kinda sketch for whatever those odds would be. will sting horrifically if it happens tho. imagine losing the legacy of midds and a young stud in a deal for kyle kuzma.

if in fact portis agent was granted access to find a suitor and he wasnt traded. well...maybe there werent many suitors. portis is what portis is. if were all in trying to win than another mle+ deal seems fine. if somebody wants to pay him more bye bye

[Diggr14]

We should trade Giannis.

Not for Luka. We need draft picks and young players.

When OKC doesnt win the championship this year, a package of Chet Holmgren/Dort/Aaron Wiggins/Topic (filler) + 2025 (top 6 protected) philly pick, and 2025 Miami pick (2026 unprotected if doesnt convey).

[ShootingtheJ]

I don’t get why Green gets more love than Trent.

It's because Green moves better off ball, has a quicker release, and is a better defender (including rebounding).

Trent has some sort of weird hesitation to never grab a loose ball, whether it's on the ground or coming off the rim.

[drdrG]

We should trade Giannis.

Not for Luka. We need draft picks and young players.

When OKC doesnt win the championship this year, a package of Chet Holmgren/Dort/Aaron Wiggins/Topic (filler) + 2025 (top 6 protected) philly pick, and 2025 Miami pick (2026 unprotected if doesnt convey).

How about Chet, Jaylen Williams, Aaron Wiggins and several picks, especially after Jaylen/Chet struggle a bit with the physicality of the playoffs.

[Packbuckman]

We should trade Giannis.

Not for Luka. We need draft picks and young players.

When OKC doesnt win the championship this year, a package of Chet Holmgren/Dort/Aaron Wiggins/Topic (filler) + 2025 (top 6 protected) philly pick, and 2025 Miami pick (2026 unprotected if doesnt convey).

Hell no you build around him I already went through trading the best player in Kareem and we didn’t win a title till Giannis came along.

[Wonka]

Would rather have rolled with AJ than whatever this current version of Ryan Rollins is.

[Packbuckman]

I don’t get why Green gets more love than Trent.

It's because Green moves better off ball, has a quicker release, and is a better defender (including rebounding).

Green is slower can’t get his shot off like Trent can when he is guarded a bit and Trent drives the ball way better. Their defense is not that different now that is a reason to start green. Especially lately Trent has played better.

[Profound23]

Middleton was 22 when we acquired him as a toss in to a trade and ended up being a cornerstone of our team for over a decade.

KPJ is 24 and ended up being an afterthought in our deals to get rid of Middleton, maybe we find the same magic?

[Baddy Chuck]

We'll see if Rollins get his contract, one guy I could see take that spot might be Jaden Springer. Doc drafted him in Philly, kept him around until he left. Cassell, Doc's Philly assistant, convinced Boston to give him a run until he was salary dumped. Not exactly good at anything besides defense yet, but he's a young athletic dude that could maybe get more of a look here than behind two all-stars in Boston.

[tedbrogen]

Yes we know the drill with Gery. But he was right on Kuzma I'll give him that.

Read on Twitter

Couple notes from his blog yesterday:

According two NBA officials, the Mavs had interactions with at least two other teams besides the Lakers. They claimed the Mavs also had conversations with the Bucks and Timberwolves...According to one source, the Mavs reached out to the Bucks. But the Bucks made it clear to Mavs they wouldn’t trade Antetokounmpo even though his future with the team is murky....The NBA officials I contacted regarding the Doncic-Davis declined to divulge specifics of the Mavs talks with the Bucks and Timberwolves, but they were adamant those talks took place.

A source close to the Wizards told me that, while they were excited to acquire Middleton, they were almost giddy about acquiring AJ Johnson from the Bucks.

The Bucks chose Johnson with the 23rd overall pick in the 2024 draft, but I’m told some player personnel officials in the Wizards organization regarded Johnson as a late lottery selection, or a top 14 pick.

More than a few NBA officials were surprised the Bucks didn’t move Bobby Portis at the trade deadline...In addition to being properly compensated, there have been whispers Portis is seeking a long-term deal. Sources also added the Bucks had given Mark Bartelstein, Portis’ power agent, permission to contact other teams about a trade.

https://woelfelspressbox.com/2025/02/bucks-rejected-mavs-overtures-for-antetokounmpo/

well... so much to unbox there.

luka for giannis straight up flip a coin. i'll take our guy because hes "our guy"...but as far as a basketball move we probabaly could have gotten additional compensation for what luka actually moved for. id need to have seen that.

aj johnson....he checks some serious boxes. but still a powerball ticket. most likely he flames out. 2nd becomes a ppgz guy for a tanker. being a winner seems kinda sketch for whatever those odds would be. will sting horrifically if it happens tho. imagine losing the legacy of midds and a young stud in a deal for kyle kuzma.

if in fact portis agent was granted access to find a suitor and he wasnt traded. well...maybe there werent many suitors. portis is what portis is. if were all in trying to win than another mle+ deal seems fine. if somebody wants to pay him more bye bye

Yeah, Luka + a pick for Giannis gets very hard to turndown. If Luka turns down the supermax in the offseason, you flip him for a ransom.

But as others have also said, Giannis has been extremely loyal, the whole “murky” thing is BS as Giannis has extended every time it was an option and never has gotten close to free agency, and if you trade that guy who stayed this long and brought a title, it makes retaining any future superstar extremely difficult.

And even if you get Luka and somehow cleaned up the situation, what are the chances another superstar signs with them to join Luka?

[tedbrogen]

We should trade Giannis.

Not for Luka. We need draft picks and young players.

When OKC doesnt win the championship this year, a package of Chet Holmgren/Dort/Aaron Wiggins/Topic (filler) + 2025 (top 6 protected) philly pick, and 2025 Miami pick (2026 unprotected if doesnt convey).

None of that is winning you a title. Two role players, a seven footer who weighs 125lbs and is made of glass, and pick #10 and #14 in this years draft for a top three player in the world. lol.

I roll with Giannis until he asks out. He’s the best player in franchise history (Lew only gets credit for his Bucks years) If he’s healthy in the playoffs, you have the best player in the east on your team. That gives you a chance at the finals.

[Baddy Chuck]

You get virtually the same package for Giannis whether he asks out or not. You don't pull a Luka and think you're smarter than everyone trading him early.

[Plossum]

If Johnson turns into a player, history will not be kind we traded him and Midds for Kyle **** Kuzma.

[Ayt]

We should trade Giannis.

Not for Luka. We need draft picks and young players.

When OKC doesnt win the championship this year, a package of Chet Holmgren/Dort/Aaron Wiggins/Topic (filler) + 2025 (top 6 protected) philly pick, and 2025 Miami pick (2026 unprotected if doesnt convey).

How about Chet, Jaylen Williams, Aaron Wiggins and several picks, especially after Jaylen/Chet struggle a bit with the physicality of the playoffs.

I'm assuming you mean Jalen Williams. It is funny how often people talk about the wrong person with that team.

[Ayt]

If Johnson turns into a player, history will not be kind we traded him and Midds for Kyle **** Kuzma.

How many of the moves Horst made post-championship have actually worked out?

[pifhluk23]

If Gary is right, no way I trade Giannis for Luka + a bottom 15 at best pick. That's punting this season and probably next as we'd need to completely retool around Luka which means trading Dame.

It is possible Dallas called because they said they wanted an all nba big man that plays defense and there are only a few of those.