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Re: PG Minny - Great Win! 

Post#181 » by Daver » Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:40 am

pifhluk23 wrote:KPJ definitely has the highest upside of our young guards for this season. I'd still start GTJ for now though, I think he's earned it back. Bring KPJ in when Dame subs out, keep him out there if he's playing well.





Agree i think ge absolutely earned his spot back.He has outplayed ajax big time.
Funny quickly took trent out of the starting lineyp cause of his shooting struggles yet continues to start ajax who cant shoot or score.I think if uou lose your starting spot cause of some slump your in you should definitely be able to win it back to
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Post#182 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:45 am

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pifhluk23 wrote:KPJ definitely has the highest upside of our young guards for this season. I'd still start GTJ for now though, I think he's earned it back. Bring KPJ in when Dame subs out, keep him out there if he's playing well.





Agree i think ge absolutely earned his spot back.He has outplayed ajax big time.
Funny quickly took trent out of the starting lineyp cause of his shooting struggles yet continues to start ajax who cant shoot or score.I think if uou lose your starting spot cause of some slump your in you should definitely be able to win it back to


Trent lost his spot as much because his defense. He did a nice job on Ant tonight though.
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Post#183 » by soxperry » Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:14 pm

Im not sure I would mess with Gary Trent's spot in the rotation right now. Whatever is happening is working for him. I also dont think KPJ should start. His defense seems pretty good but I think hes much more valuable playing with Dame off the court (and especially Dame and Giannis both off) to give us some very much needed creation and playmaking. I cannot wait to see his two man game with Giannis.

I know hes not going to be efficient every night. But we were downright emaciated for his precise collection of talents: Speed. Athleticism. Ball Handling.

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Post#184 » by drone3 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:15 pm

Just watched the game.. It's weird to say this but it looks like we are building a defensive identity.
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Post#185 » by randy84 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:16 pm

old skool wrote:
rilamann wrote:Some of ya'll are going to be punching air every time the Bucks win a game with Dame in street clothes now.

My bad.

:D

I get it, people are already butthurt that I speak the truth on Dame.

Then the Bucks go out get one of their most fun and one of their best wins of the season on the road......with Dame in street clothes.

Damn that rilamann!!!


I think people find mindless repetitive comments that add nothing to the conversation to be annoying.

I value people's opinions, even though as fans we are frequently off base. Those opinions are interesting to me. But when someone makes themselves the essence of their post time and time again, it becomes a pain. Like litter on the sidewalk. Feeling compelled to remind everyone how "right" you are just underscores your inability to be convincing. "Oh, I didn't get it the first 23 times you said it, but the 24th time - I get your point!" Repeating yourself at every available opportunity does not add gravitas. It becomes not about the point you are trying to make, but rather the repetition that holds no value for anyone.

People aren't annoyed by your opinion. Or mine. Which is why most people don't react to any given opinion. People are annoyed by the repetition. Repetition does not convince or validate. It just annoys.


You guys are letting ol'Riles fool you. Just take a look at his posts when the Bucks traded for Dame. He loved the trade and he loves Dame. He couldn't get rid of Jrue fast enough.
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Post#186 » by randy84 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:23 pm

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rilamann wrote:Some of ya'll are going to be punching air every time the Bucks win a game with Dame in street clothes now.

My bad.

:D

I get it, people are already butthurt that I speak the truth on Dame.

Then the Bucks go out get one of their most fun and one of their best wins of the season on the road......with Dame in street clothes.

Damn that rilamann!!!


Literally no one in the world cares about Damian Lillard as much as you do. It's really weird.



Dame fans are as defensless about the Bucks success without Dame as Dame is defenseless.

Bucks without Dame: 4-4.
Bucks without Giannis: 6-6.
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Post#187 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:24 pm

randy84 wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
Literally no one in the world cares about Damian Lillard as much as you do. It's really weird.



Dame fans are as defensless about the Bucks success without Dame as Dame is defenseless.

Bucks without Dame: 4-4.
Bucks without Giannis: 6-6.


Bucks are 5-4 without Dame.

Bucks are 8 points/100 better with Giannis on the floor. He has a massive impact on winning.
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Post#188 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:51 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
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GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:marjon for kpj was there...

but patc/portis/ajj for kuzma wouldnt gotten under the apron? so no deal? how do we acquire him without khris?


Brook/Pat for Kuz would have gotten us under the apron. And we might have actually had to attach less assets cuz 3/4 of that salary would have been expiring. Khris had considerably negative value to them cuz he's under contract for 2 yrs.

Also, if the requirement is just legs for rebounding & d, Nance & 2 2nds for Bobby would have done it. Then use the 2 2nds, maybe Tyler Smith, to attach Pat & get under the apron. Still do the Wright for Sims as your 4th big deal. & the KPJ deal.

Khris could have still been on the team, while giving up less future assets, & serving the interests of getting under the 2nd apron while adding an athletic supporting cast. Didn't require doing Kuz for Khris + AJ Johnson specifically. That's the most costly route.


I’d rather have Brook/Bobby/Kuzma than Middleton/AJ/Nance


trading lopez instead of midds is a nonstarter for me as well. hes an ironman and as much to do with our core as anybody....and thats especially with the old mr glass nature of the rest of the core even now that remains. you dont trade lopez and keep midds to "solve" the no-show-ism and general nature of the rest of the core which needs to sit out after virtually any heavy use whatsoever.
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Post#189 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:22 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:
Bernman wrote:
Brook/Pat for Kuz would have gotten us under the apron. And we might have actually had to attach less assets cuz 3/4 of that salary would have been expiring. Khris had considerably negative value to them cuz he's under contract for 2 yrs.

Also, if the requirement is just legs for rebounding & d, Nance & 2 2nds for Bobby would have done it. Then use the 2 2nds, maybe Tyler Smith, to attach Pat & get under the apron. Still do the Wright for Sims as your 4th big deal. & the KPJ deal.

Khris could have still been on the team, while giving up less future assets, & serving the interests of getting under the 2nd apron while adding an athletic supporting cast. Didn't require doing Kuz for Khris + AJ Johnson specifically. That's the most costly route.


I’d rather have Brook/Bobby/Kuzma than Middleton/AJ/Nance


trading lopez instead of midds is a nonstarter for me as well. hes an ironman and as much to do with our core as anybody....and thats especially with the old mr glass nature of the rest of the core even now that remains. you dont trade lopez and keep midds to "solve" the no-show-ism and general nature of the rest of the core which needs to sit out after virtually any heavy use whatsoever.


You trade Lopez instead of Mids because the playoffs are all that matter.
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Post#190 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:26 pm

-Jragon- wrote:
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MickeyDavis wrote:Some agendas never die.
Buckle up. Middleton isn't around anymore. There's gonna be a whipping boy for some to zero in on

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The next slowest non- D guy is Bobby though... his slow is going to look slower with all these corvettes flying


Bucks are actually better defensively with Bobby on the floor this year. It was obvious when Bobby was out how much they need his rebounding.

The Bucks only have 1 non D guy, but his crippling effect on the defense remains too much to overcome. We didn't have to worry about that last night, so we won.
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Post#191 » by msiris » Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:27 pm

old skool wrote:I think people find mindless repetitive comments that add nothing to the conversation to be annoying.

I value people's opinions, even though as fans we are frequently off base. Those opinions are interesting to me. But when someone makes themselves the essence of their post time and time again, it becomes a pain. Like litter on the sidewalk. Feeling compelled to remind everyone how "right" you are just underscores your inability to be convincing. "Oh, I didn't get it the first 23 times you said it, but the 24th time - I get your point!" Repeating yourself at every available opportunity does not add gravitas. It becomes not about the point you are trying to make, but rather the repetition that holds no value for anyone.

People aren't annoyed by your opinion. Or mine. Which is why most people don't react to any given opinion. People are annoyed by the repetition. Repetition does not convince or validate. It just annoys.
Must be me or I am just too old to care. Just to easy scroll past after glancing at it. Plus telling him that it's getting old is not going change him. Maybe he gets a kick out of pushing peoples buttons.
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Post#192 » by aboveAverage » Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:30 pm

Lopez has been fantastic this season. It would have been really risky to trade him with our lack of front court depth. He’s still one of the best centers in the league for the money.

As much as he can be played off the court, there are teams that he’s an absolute necessity against. He’s a big strong dude with tree trunk legs and great post defense. We don’t have anyone else on our team with that defensive profile.

What we really needed was an athletic, switchable defensive center to replace Brook against quicker teams. Ideally we need that guy and Brook.
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Post#193 » by BuckFan25226 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:33 pm

Wonka wrote:
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paulpressey25 wrote:The speed factor from Kuzma and KPJ was evident tonight.


Kuz is going to be so frustrating. It's night and day the difference between him and Midds athletically and I think he can be an asset defensively, but on offense it's just dribble pullups to an inefficient jumper or a wild pass. Like if he attacked the hoop he'd be incredible.


This is where I am at. His IQ and decision making leave a lot to be desired 90 percent of the time and I think it would be foolish to ignore that...but he is giving a ton of effort and he is an athlete. Just not a very good fit.



What am I missing? Kuzma hasn't seemed to settle at all. He's been attacking the rim consistently and has been very effective. 21 FT attempts in the past 2 games.

Imagine the opportunities he will get with GA and Dame out there. Also imagine if he can get back to his career norm from 3.

Also....a defensive lineup of

Brook
Giannis
Kuzma
Green/GTJ
KPJ

Or small

Giannis
Kuzma
Green
GTJ
KPJ

This team has all of a sudden become extremely versatile.
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Post#194 » by Daver » Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:34 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:Buckle up. Middleton isn't around anymore. There's gonna be a whipping boy for some to zero in on

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The next slowest non- D guy is Bobby though... his slow is going to look slower with all these corvettes flying


Bucks are actually better defensively with Bobby on the floor this year. It was obvious when Bobby was out how much they need his rebounding.

The Bucks only have 1 non D guy, but his crippling effect on the defense remains too much to overcome. We didn't have to worry about that last night, so we won.




WTF dude your agenda with dame is as bad as rilamans is.Did this guy kick your dog screw your GF or something.FFS everything dame from you is he sucks on D put up a triple double or beats philly with his 67% TS night yet here yoi are again bringing up dames D as the reason why they won.Thats fu.. BS.You would be talking out of your ass if Ant didnt shoot so badly n minny won.
Im sure yoy geniuos idea would be to start **** ajax at the one n rollins at tbe 2.
You use ×/- only when you try to prove a point then ignore when other people bring stats to prove your BS is just that BS
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Post#195 » by aboveAverage » Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:35 pm

bbbarnett47 wrote:I see a lot of talk in here about Kuzma's bad shot selection but I really disagree. Has he taken bad shots? Yes. Did a majority of those shots happen because he was thrown the ball with 5 on the shot clock? Also yes.

I think the thing thats stuck out to me most is that he is actually a good/smart basketball player and I think that will grow even further with time. He rebounds, he passes, makes the correct reads most of the time, solid defender, and a lot bigger than I thought.

He's been in the league long enough and I think he's matured since the early days with the Lakers and the chucking that, honestly had to happen with the Wizards.

I won't lie - I wasn't thrilled to watch him play basketball when the trade was announced but if this is what we got in the replacement of Khris, we can definitely work with it and I have much more hope than I did initially. Excited to see what the full squad can do post ASG break.

He has the potential to carve out a Boris Diaw type role if he plays to his strengths and limits bad shots.
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Post#196 » by ABucksFan » Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:52 pm

I said it at the time and I'll say it now. Marjon for KPJ was robbery lol. There's definitely off court concerns, but dude can actually play.
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Post#197 » by msiris » Thu Feb 13, 2025 2:19 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:Buckle up. Middleton isn't around anymore. There's gonna be a whipping boy for some to zero in on

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The next slowest non- D guy is Bobby though... his slow is going to look slower with all these corvettes flying


Bucks are actually better defensively with Bobby on the floor this year. It was obvious when Bobby was out how much they need his rebounding.

The Bucks only have 1 non D guy, but his crippling effect on the defense remains too much to overcome. We didn't have to worry about that last night, so we won.
Must be one of stats that doesn't pass the eye test. Bobby can't defend the post and people blow by him all the time. I will give you the rebounding part.
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Post#198 » by jute2003 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 2:20 pm

That was an entertaining and surprising outcome for how little shot creation the team had.

I really enjoy the movement and athleticism that they've shown. I worry that the team will revert to the grind ball they have been playing for years once Giannis is back.

I want to like the spazzy quirky effectiveness that is kpj. Separating the turd from the player is tough.
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Post#199 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Feb 13, 2025 2:30 pm

I straight up hated the Kuzma trade but he's honestly been pretty great so far.

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Post#200 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Feb 13, 2025 2:33 pm

BuckFan25226 wrote:

What am I missing? Kuzma hasn't seemed to settle at all. He's been attacking the rim consistently and has been very effective. 21 FT attempts in the past 2 games.

Imagine the opportunities he will get with GA and Dame out there. Also imagine if he can get back to his career norm from 3.



The past 2 games he's taken 69.2% of his shots from less than 10 feet. And had 21 FT attempts. That's above his career norm but it was great seeing him attack the rim. When Giannis is back the dynamic changes certainly.
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