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Post#221 » by Shaffty » Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:51 pm

MikeIsGood wrote:The best part of the Kuzma trade so far is that he **** rebounds. I'm not sure just how much people realize we need that. Our rebound diff is -2, which is bottom-five in the league. Even last night (no Giannis obv) we gave up 15 ORBD.

Khris is/was a good rebounder, but he wasn't playing enough to make a difference anymore.



we just really needed some guys who could run around and jump
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Post#222 » by KidA24 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:00 pm

Shaffty wrote:Why do so many wisconsin sports fans get off on being wet blankets


This is not exclusive to Wisconsin. It is however, a symptom of watching too many dumb shows (or listening to them) where two people argue over completely made up positions.
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Post#223 » by tedbrogen » Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:05 pm

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MikeIsGood wrote:The best part of the Kuzma trade so far is that he **** rebounds. I'm not sure just how much people realize we need that. Our rebound diff is -2, which is bottom-five in the league. Even last night (no Giannis obv) we gave up 15 ORBD.

Khris is/was a good rebounder, but he wasn't playing enough to make a difference anymore.



we just really needed some guys who could run around and jump


It’s a team built on “run and jump” man, so makes sense ;-)
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Post#224 » by old skool » Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:05 pm

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old skool wrote:I think people find mindless repetitive comments that add nothing to the conversation to be annoying.

I value people's opinions, even though as fans we are frequently off base. Those opinions are interesting to me. But when someone makes themselves the essence of their post time and time again, it becomes a pain. Like litter on the sidewalk. Feeling compelled to remind everyone how "right" you are just underscores your inability to be convincing. "Oh, I didn't get it the first 23 times you said it, but the 24th time - I get your point!" Repeating yourself at every available opportunity does not add gravitas. It becomes not about the point you are trying to make, but rather the repetition that holds no value for anyone.

People aren't annoyed by your opinion. Or mine. Which is why most people don't react to any given opinion. People are annoyed by the repetition. Repetition does not convince or validate. It just annoys.
Must be me or I am just too old to care. Just to easy scroll past after glancing at it. Plus telling him that it's getting old is not going change him. Maybe he gets a kick out of pushing peoples buttons.
I agree with you. Some posts are just like spam. You don't even have to read them, you just move on.

For me, this is not an argument or a debate. Just me presenting my inconsequential opinion on pattern posting that I find to be pointless and annoying. I don't think anyone comes here to find out which posters are "right" with their NBA takes and predictions. I see no value in chest-thumping posts congratulating one's self for being proved "right".

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Post#225 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:09 pm

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GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
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You trade Lopez instead of Mids because the playoffs are all that matter.


and to get to the playoffs you have to make the playoffs. midds, giannis, and dame are made of glass. they cant be relied upon for the grind of a season without wrecking their bodies. if you even attempt it you destroy our playoff performance anyway. have you not learned that enough already? like right now the season is barely half over. the toughest stretch ahead....and giannis may be cooked without LARGE swaths of rest down the stretch.

we need guys that can perform during the regular season and still having something in the tank come the playoffs. lopez is example 1a. kuzma hopefully will add to that list


Maybe im overconfident, but I just watched us beat a playoff team without Giannis or Dame. I have no fears of not making the playoffs.


yeah because we had lopez and kuzma out there!! we now have two guys in the starting lineup that can huff minutes without breaking down for weeks at a time. giannis on a supermax with his now very real and chronic health issues has to be babied. dame at his age, with his history has to be babied. there was no way to absorb middleton playing part time and still breaking down. theres just freaking no way you can pay 130 million on your roster for 3 different guys who are gonna be cooked by the playoffs if they play more than 60 games. no way.... i get exactly why we did this.

this year, already.....was ground hog day. ffs giannis is sitting out a month. people arent even reacting with giannis situation with actual horror and instead blaming horst AGAIN. this guy is trying to put a team together with some guys that arent ready for a nursing home. it was a practical, smart if not great deadline!!
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Post#226 » by Shaffty » Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:13 pm

tedbrogen wrote:
Shaffty wrote:
MikeIsGood wrote:The best part of the Kuzma trade so far is that he **** rebounds. I'm not sure just how much people realize we need that. Our rebound diff is -2, which is bottom-five in the league. Even last night (no Giannis obv) we gave up 15 ORBD.

Khris is/was a good rebounder, but he wasn't playing enough to make a difference anymore.



we just really needed some guys who could run around and jump


It’s a team built on “run and jump” man, so makes sense ;-)



him and dame need to be the only unathletic "slow" guys on the team going forward. We are half way there.
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Post#227 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:25 pm

old skool wrote:
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old skool wrote:I think people find mindless repetitive comments that add nothing to the conversation to be annoying.

I value people's opinions, even though as fans we are frequently off base. Those opinions are interesting to me. But when someone makes themselves the essence of their post time and time again, it becomes a pain. Like litter on the sidewalk. Feeling compelled to remind everyone how "right" you are just underscores your inability to be convincing. "Oh, I didn't get it the first 23 times you said it, but the 24th time - I get your point!" Repeating yourself at every available opportunity does not add gravitas. It becomes not about the point you are trying to make, but rather the repetition that holds no value for anyone.

People aren't annoyed by your opinion. Or mine. Which is why most people don't react to any given opinion. People are annoyed by the repetition. Repetition does not convince or validate. It just annoys.
Must be me or I am just too old to care. Just to easy scroll past after glancing at it. Plus telling him that it's getting old is not going change him. Maybe he gets a kick out of pushing peoples buttons.
I agree with you. Some posts are just like spam. You don't even have to read them, you just move on.

For me, this is not an argument or a debate. Just me presenting my inconsequential opinion on pattern posting that I find to be pointless and annoying. I don't think anyone comes here to find out which posters are "right" with their NBA takes and predictions. I see no value in chest-thumping posts congratulating one's self for being proved "right".

Every so often I succumb to the internet fueled plague that convinces so many people that every topic warrants their strongly stated opinion, regardless of their knowledge or insight. I hope and expect that it will not become a habit.

Cheers!


the board would be dead if everybody made posts as if it was their one shot at inspired scripture on a topic. most people come here to pass the time. real life debates on barstools that goes round and round mimic what happens here i think. makes for an active forum imo.

i for one enjoy some of the mundane back and forth even if its of a repetitive nature. gives me something to scroll in my downtime. and if a debate continues to rage for days then why not add back in with your same stuff said 10 different ways. if youre getting and1s and responses is not THAT the purpose of the forum?
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Post#228 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:30 pm

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Baddy Chuck wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:Seems realistic, just pair the $48.7 million player with the perfect lineup for him in every single one of his minutes so the team doesn't get killed defensively when he's in.

Or, move him to another team for players that better compliment each other, and get back to winning. Considering we can win without him without the benefits of a trade, I'm not seeing the risk.

We're 5-4 without Dame with a -4 point differential, 6-6 without Giannis with a -6 differential. Guess we can win all the same without him too!

Also regarding your first statement, I mean yes?, is that not exactly what they should try to do? There are lineups with Dame that work defensively right now. Last season there was almost not a lineup that didn't work. Dame isn't torpedoing the defense on his own and finding ways to fill the voids is exactly what we should be doing. Last season it worked with Malik Beasley FFS. This season it's largely fine, even good, when pairing our two stars together. The two guys we are going to ride in the playoffs for better or worse right now. Finding the lineups that limit our team getting killed is exactly what we should be doing and there are plenty with Dame that aren't.

Your dreams of Dame being traded at the deadline are over. Doing what it takes to win now is what the team is focusing on. Who gives a flying **** about your new found love for defensive sieve Domantas Sabonis as a trade target or the other 20 at best Dame level defenders you've been jumping at like they'd prove to be anything more. They aren't walking through that door. Besides, maybe Dalano Banton, he might be cut any day now with the CD-DNPs he's racking up and **** the bed when he does play during their current hot streak while taunting a dude to drop 50 on him.

Wishing Dame away isn't going to make it happen. And like rila all your posts currently come off as you hoping the Bucks fail so you can be "right" while praying that Tari Eason walks in the door and rights the ship so oyu can be "right" again.





Funny his man love ajax defensive stats and even overall ajax in the lineup is a negative yet he never says nothing about ajax


I literally say that he's simply in there for developmental minutes.
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Post#229 » by Shaffty » Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:40 pm

KidA24 wrote:
Shaffty wrote:Why do so many wisconsin sports fans get off on being wet blankets


This is not exclusive to Wisconsin. It is however, a symptom of watching too many dumb shows (or listening to them) where two people argue over completely made up positions.



it also seems to be how local media guys try to make themselves look 'unbiased' and smart to national guys
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Post#230 » by chonestown » Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:56 pm

MikeIsGood wrote:The best part of the Kuzma trade so far is that he **** rebounds. I'm not sure just how much people realize we need that. Our rebound diff is -2, which is bottom-five in the league. Even last night (no Giannis obv) we gave up 15 ORBD.

Khris is/was a good rebounder, but he wasn't playing enough to make a difference anymore.


I wouldn't call Kuzma a glass-eater, but both him and KPJ noticeably rebound out of their immediate area. Startling to see after being accustomed to Brook - and tbf Giannis - largely getting what lands in their vicinity.
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Re: PG Minny - Great Win! 

Post#231 » by paulpressey25 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:07 pm

chonestown wrote:I wouldn't call Kuzma a glass-eater, but both him and KPJ noticeably rebound out of their immediate area. Startling to see after being accustomed to Brook - and tbf Giannis - largely getting what lands in their vicinity.


They have speed to get to spots. We're just not used to seeing it because most of our guys don't have that speed.
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Post#232 » by Bernman » Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:13 pm

For bball, it was obvious KPJ for Marjon was a home run, cuz Marjon was a swing and miss. KPJ's probably had 150 games better than Marjon's best. It's a matter of if they could recover that & should deal w/ off the court stuff. Remains to be seen.

In theory we could use another creator. Don't know he could play w/ Dame on the offensive end, so it might be backup pt & replacement when he's out. His high of 5.3 rebs as a g helps us in theory. The d was a pleasant surprise since his debut.

I don't think this means we should be fickle w/ Rollins though. He could improve from surgery. Would want to lock him down beyond this yr. And even now could use all the d options next to Dame, w/ adequate offense, we can have. Keep experimenting.
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Post#233 » by RogerMurdock » Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:14 pm

Bernman wrote:In theory we could use another creator.


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Post#234 » by chonestown » Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:40 pm

RogerMurdock wrote:
Bernman wrote:In theory we could use another creator.


MrBeast


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Post#235 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:43 pm

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Bernman wrote:In theory we could use another creator.


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Post#236 » by DanoMac » Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:51 pm

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Bernman wrote:In theory we could use another creator.


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Post#237 » by LUKE23 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:59 pm

.222 3%
.680 FT%
.516 TS%

Kuzma so far. I like his athleticism and rebounding, but we are going to need better efficiecny by a good amount across the board for him to be a playoff net+ player. I feel like most of his shots so far have been very odd/off-balance, and he's shooting like Giannis from the line. Hoping it improves as he gets more acclimated.
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Post#238 » by ajb905 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 7:23 pm

LUKE23 wrote:.222 3%
.680 FT%
.516 TS%

Kuzma so far. I like his athleticism and rebounding, but we are going to need better efficiecny by a good amount across the board for him to be a playoff net+ player. I feel like most of his shots so far have been very odd/off-balance, and he's shooting like Giannis from the line. Hoping it improves as he gets more acclimated.


Any jump shot off the bounce from him is cringe worthy. The 3PT shooting hopefully will be limited to catch and shoot, but its a big concern.

I enjoy his aggressiveness getting to the rim even though he's loose with the dribble. With his drives, he makes good passes and he has started some real nice sequences of ball movement after collapsing the D.

Not sure how well he'll mesh with Giannis on the floor, as some overlapping (poor man) skills there. Though I think there have been some good off-the ball cuts he's made.
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Post#239 » by emunney » Thu Feb 13, 2025 7:34 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Horst sucks yada yada yada but Prince and especially Trent at the minimum were really good signings.


It might be too little, too late, but for those of us who've been complaining of our moves "on the margins" for years, this is an odd year to complain about it. The problem is that all the hits are guards.

Prince is ok depth, fine on the minimum, but the fact that he's playing 26 mpg is an issue for us. Hopefully Giannis coming back (and Kuzma sliding over) mitigates that. It should.
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Post#240 » by msiris » Thu Feb 13, 2025 7:37 pm

old skool wrote:
msiris wrote:
old skool wrote:I think people find mindless repetitive comments that add nothing to the conversation to be annoying.

I value people's opinions, even though as fans we are frequently off base. Those opinions are interesting to me. But when someone makes themselves the essence of their post time and time again, it becomes a pain. Like litter on the sidewalk. Feeling compelled to remind everyone how "right" you are just underscores your inability to be convincing. "Oh, I didn't get it the first 23 times you said it, but the 24th time - I get your point!" Repeating yourself at every available opportunity does not add gravitas. It becomes not about the point you are trying to make, but rather the repetition that holds no value for anyone.

People aren't annoyed by your opinion. Or mine. Which is why most people don't react to any given opinion. People are annoyed by the repetition. Repetition does not convince or validate. It just annoys.
Must be me or I am just too old to care. Just to easy scroll past after glancing at it. Plus telling him that it's getting old is not going change him. Maybe he gets a kick out of pushing peoples buttons.
I agree with you. Some posts are just like spam. You don't even have to read them, you just move on.

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Every so often I succumb to the internet fueled plague that convinces so many people that every topic warrants their strongly stated opinion, regardless of their knowledge or insight. I hope and expect that it will not become a habit.

Cheers!
Totally agree. It's really hard to predict what's going to happen. Like the Dame hing. We know his faults. For now he s not going anywhere. Let it play out. If we suck in the playoffs then you decide what to do at that time. Lets pray that everyone stays or we have have to do it next year because of the injury excuse.
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