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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#381 » by Context » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:47 pm

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He doesn't feel like he's that hard to beat off the dribble but obv he's long enough to disrupt.

I am concerned and troubled at how he doesn't seem to be part of the offense. Precious's cutting to the rim for dunks seems to be a bigger part of our offense at times than what MB is doing. Mikal did hit a big corner 3.

I think thats all on Thibs...Thibs is suppose to design an offense that would suit this group but I dont think he has it in him. I think this group is almost free-lancing KG.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#382 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:50 pm

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tbh, i think this game is just another example of thibs making it harder for our team to win games.

i will say there might be something to thibs that isn't quantifiable that gets his teams to win. because those teams that had rose on the bench with the only other real good player being randle getting to the playoffs was impressive. is he a championship coach - idk. doc rivers is so sure anything is possible. but his defensive philosophy of letting teams shoot open 3s is bad and the mins are criminal. id prefer to upgrade there but i get the worry of getting someone who is worse. because i do believe these players love playing for thibs. and that is a huge part of coaching.



There is certainly something to players playing hard for him and him instilling a win at all cost mentality. The players love him and would run through a wall for him. All that is factual and I appreciate that. Its also while I'm not calling for him to be fired. But this roster is built to compete and has the talent to compete...a lot will be determined on how we perform in the post season. We are past the well we are winning regular season games so we are good.

Yes we can enjoy the success and I do...but that also doesn't mean I'm satisfied... this team and coach will be judged by there success in the post season.


Idk, i don't think it's a failure of a season if we get bounced in the 2nd in a really tough series against a good team. And even if we get bounced in the 2nd in embarrassing fashion ill be pissed in the moment. Hell imma be mad either way I still find a series win as a knocks fan a success. These are the knicks. I've never not known pain rooting for this team. Even the up years end in tragedy. So with that...

I think this season is a success right now. And more than that I'm enjoying watching this team. From game to game this is a fun team to watch. Which for us is a nice. Cause more often that not it hasn't been.


Word. This season is absolutely a success. We are established as a top team in this league now. Even with making the second round the last two years, we were not established as a top team and those teams no longer exist anymore. Fuq all those ex players and fuq all of those tired ass debates. We here. Hopefully we can get to the promised land at some point.

This core is a championship level contender right now. What we do to improve is the next step. I am all in on this starting lineup. The HC is a different story but, if we can add enough depth and/or build enough chemistry and cohesion, we may be able to overcome what I see as our biggest flaw.

The players coming in after the break should help us to improve our defense/depth and if we add TJ we should have more offense off the bench. Thibs is on the clock the rest of the year as far as I am concerned. Not that it means anything but, if he can't figure it out, I hope the FO doesn't waste the next two three years on his BS. We are as close to championship as we have been since game 7 in 1994. That's my take and I'll die alone on that hill if I have to.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#385 » by kNicksGmen » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:52 pm

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So I was wrong.

He doesn't feel like he's that hard to beat off the dribble but obv he's long enough to disrupt.

I am concerned and troubled at how he doesn't seem to be part of the offense. Precious's cutting to the rim for dunks seems to be a bigger part of our offense at times than what MB is doing. Mikal did hit a big corner 3.

I think thats all on Thibs...Thibs is suppose to design an offense that would suit this group but I dont think he has it in him. I think this group is almost free-lancing KG.

it is 90% free lancing with a heavy emphasis on Brunson using ball screens to figure it out. when brunson is on the bench the offense flows better even though it is still free lancing. there's just less deference to a single action or player.

Kat should be getting fed open shots 5-7 times a night via designed plays. instead he only gets them on random defensive breakdowns or logo shots.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#386 » by Guano » Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:59 pm

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There is certainly something to players playing hard for him and him instilling a win at all cost mentality. The players love him and would run through a wall for him. All that is factual and I appreciate that. Its also while I'm not calling for him to be fired. But this roster is built to compete and has the talent to compete...a lot will be determined on how we perform in the post season. We are past the well we are winning regular season games so we are good.

Yes we can enjoy the success and I do...but that also doesn't mean I'm satisfied... this team and coach will be judged by there success in the post season.


Idk, i don't think it's a failure of a season if we get bounced in the 2nd in a really tough series against a good team. And even if we get bounced in the 2nd in embarrassing fashion ill be pissed in the moment. Hell imma be mad either way I still find a series win as a knocks fan a success. These are the knicks. I've never not known pain rooting for this team. Even the up years end in tragedy. So with that...

I think this season is a success right now. And more than that I'm enjoying watching this team. From game to game this is a fun team to watch. Which for us is a nice. Cause more often that not it hasn't been.


Word. This season is absolutely a success. We are established as a top team in this league now. Even with making the second round the last two years, we were not established as a top team and those teams no longer exist anymore. Fuq all those ex players and fuq all of those tired ass debates. We here. Hopefully we can get to the promised land at some point.

This core is a championship level contender right now. What we do to improve is the next step. I am all in on this starting lineup. The HC is a different story but, if we can add enough depth and/or build enough chemistry and cohesion, we may be able to overcome what I see as our biggest flaw.

The players coming in after the break should help us to improve our defense/depth and if we add TJ we should have more offense off the bench. Thibs is on the clock the rest of the year as far as I am concerned. Not that it means anything but, if he can't figure it out, I hope the FO doesn't waste the next two three years on his BS. We are as close to championship as we have been since game 7 in 1994. That's my take and I'll die alone on that hill if I have to.


i get why some aren't as high as us on the team though. it's not as if this team doesn't have some glaring flaws, they're locked into the core(some might view them as not enough), they've struggled against the best of the best, and thibs. I'm just stoked we have a 2 super stars on our team and a couple great role players. like you i think we're close if not there. i don't think its crazy delusional to hope we get hot in the playoffs and make a legit run. prolly not likely but its a possibility when you have someone as good as Brunson with solid pieces around him. that dream feels a lot better than rooting for losses to hopefully win the draft lottery.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#387 » by mpharris36 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:08 pm

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tbh, i think this game is just another example of thibs making it harder for our team to win games.

i will say there might be something to thibs that isn't quantifiable that gets his teams to win. because those teams that had rose on the bench with the only other real good player being randle getting to the playoffs was impressive. is he a championship coach - idk. doc rivers is so sure anything is possible. but his defensive philosophy of letting teams shoot open 3s is bad and the mins are criminal. id prefer to upgrade there but i get the worry of getting someone who is worse. because i do believe these players love playing for thibs. and that is a huge part of coaching.



There is certainly something to players playing hard for him and him instilling a win at all cost mentality. The players love him and would run through a wall for him. All that is factual and I appreciate that. Its also while I'm not calling for him to be fired. But this roster is built to compete and has the talent to compete...a lot will be determined on how we perform in the post season. We are past the well we are winning regular season games so we are good.

Yes we can enjoy the success and I do...but that also doesn't mean I'm satisfied... this team and coach will be judged by there success in the post season.


Idk, i don't think it's a failure of a season if we get bounced in the 2nd in a really tough series against a good team. And even if we get bounced in the 2nd in embarrassing fashion ill be pissed in the moment. Hell imma be mad either way I still find a series win as a knocks fan a success. These are the knicks. I've never not known pain rooting for this team. Even the up years end in tragedy. So with that...

I think this season is a success right now. And more than that I'm enjoying watching this team. From game to game this is a fun team to watch. Which for us is a nice. Cause more often that not it hasn't been.



I wouldn't call it a failure if we take the Celtics to a deep series is round 2. However we should absolutely continue to look at avenues to improve. The roster is pretty much set with moves on the margins. The other factor would potentially be getting a new voice in if things don't work out the way we expect them too
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#389 » by mpharris36 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:19 pm

Come on guys...the season is absolutely not a success yet. I know we haven't had much success but if they lose in the first round to DET. That is absolutely can not viewed as a success regardless of the amount of regular season wins.

That is not what they built this team for.

Enjoy the season as we go. I am too and not taking wins for granted. But still a lot to be determined.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#390 » by K_ick_God » Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:19 pm

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So I was wrong.

He doesn't feel like he's that hard to beat off the dribble but obv he's long enough to disrupt.

I am concerned and troubled at how he doesn't seem to be part of the offense. Precious's cutting to the rim for dunks seems to be a bigger part of our offense at times than what MB is doing. Mikal did hit a big corner 3.

I think thats all on Thibs...Thibs is suppose to design an offense that would suit this group but I dont think he has it in him. I think this group is almost free-lancing KG.

it is 90% free lancing with a heavy emphasis on Brunson using ball screens to figure it out. when brunson is on the bench the offense flows better even though it is still free lancing. there's just less deference to a single action or player.

Kat should be getting fed open shots 5-7 times a night via designed plays. instead he only gets them on random defensive breakdowns or logo shots.


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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#391 » by sol537 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:29 pm

I have to remind myself to be thankful that we have Leon at the helm and this talented roster locked in for several years... instead of having to be a fan of teams like PHI, DAL, PHX, CHA, WAS, UTA, or even TOR right now. How miserable that would be.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#394 » by Guano » Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:11 pm

mpharris36 wrote:Come on guys...the season is absolutely not a success yet. I know we haven't had much success but if they lose in the first round to DET. That is absolutely can not viewed as a success regardless of the amount of regular season wins.

That is not what they built this team for.

Enjoy the season as we go. I am too and not taking wins for granted. But still a lot to be determined.


they're not losing to the pistons in the first round unless we have catastrophic injuries... which might be a possibility.

nice job on jinxing the team. at least we know who to blame if it happens thibs for the mins and mp for the curse.
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Post#395 » by Gravy » Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:12 pm

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no argument here - thibs fcked up.

and his players didn't pick him up... until OT.


Agreed a lot of them were certainly spent on the b2b....they played two very face pace teams that run up and down...so its certainly asking them a lot.

Brunson was Brunson late...he put us on his shoulders and carried us to a win.


tbh, i think this game is just another example of thibs making it harder for our team to win games.

i will say there might be something to thibs that isn't quantifiable that gets his teams to win. because those teams that had rose on the bench with the only other real good player being randle getting to the playoffs was impressive. is he a championship coach - idk. doc rivers is so sure anything is possible. but his defensive philosophy of letting teams shoot open 3s is bad and the mins are criminal. id prefer to upgrade there but i get the worry of getting someone who is worse. because i do believe these players love playing for thibs. and that is a huge part of coaching.

Eh, I'd say not having OG, Mitch and Deuce on the second night of a b2b right before the asb made it harder to win over a missed timeout...

Overall I believe Thibs has put on a coaching masterpiece this season with two new players in the SL, Kanter on defense at center and a bunch of accountants and plumbers for a bench. But for some reason the next coach will have schemes EXACTLY how the fans say they should and take us into the top of the league. ...And yet I'm still waiting for all these other coaches to use our former players the right way after Thibs was using them so wrong.
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Post#396 » by G_K_F » Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:22 pm

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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#397 » by mpharris36 » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:38 am

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mpharris36 wrote:Come on guys...the season is absolutely not a success yet. I know we haven't had much success but if they lose in the first round to DET. That is absolutely can not viewed as a success regardless of the amount of regular season wins.

That is not what they built this team for.

Enjoy the season as we go. I am too and not taking wins for granted. But still a lot to be determined.


they're not losing to the pistons in the first round unless we have catastrophic injuries... which might be a possibility.

nice job on jinxing the team. at least we know who to blame if it happens thibs for the mins and mp for the curse.

Don't put that evil on me lol

Just saying still a lot of work to do.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#398 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:46 am

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Idk, i don't think it's a failure of a season if we get bounced in the 2nd in a really tough series against a good team. And even if we get bounced in the 2nd in embarrassing fashion ill be pissed in the moment. Hell imma be mad either way I still find a series win as a knocks fan a success. These are the knicks. I've never not known pain rooting for this team. Even the up years end in tragedy. So with that...

I think this season is a success right now. And more than that I'm enjoying watching this team. From game to game this is a fun team to watch. Which for us is a nice. Cause more often that not it hasn't been.


Word. This season is absolutely a success. We are established as a top team in this league now. Even with making the second round the last two years, we were not established as a top team and those teams no longer exist anymore. Fuq all those ex players and fuq all of those tired ass debates. We here. Hopefully we can get to the promised land at some point.

This core is a championship level contender right now. What we do to improve is the next step. I am all in on this starting lineup. The HC is a different story but, if we can add enough depth and/or build enough chemistry and cohesion, we may be able to overcome what I see as our biggest flaw.

The players coming in after the break should help us to improve our defense/depth and if we add TJ we should have more offense off the bench. Thibs is on the clock the rest of the year as far as I am concerned. Not that it means anything but, if he can't figure it out, I hope the FO doesn't waste the next two three years on his BS. We are as close to championship as we have been since game 7 in 1994. That's my take and I'll die alone on that hill if I have to.


i get why some aren't as high as us on the team though. it's not as if this team doesn't have some glaring flaws, they're locked into the core(some might view them as not enough), they've struggled against the best of the best, and thibs. I'm just stoked we have a 2 super stars on our team and a couple great role players. like you i think we're close if not there. i don't think its crazy delusional to hope we get hot in the playoffs and make a legit run. prolly not likely but its a possibility when you have someone as good as Brunson with solid pieces around him. that dream feels a lot better than rooting for losses to hopefully win the draft lottery.


We completely agree but, I cannot fathom how someone who has been a fan of this team for more than 15 minutes could be down on things. Makes zero sense. Some is agendas. Some is just miserable ass people. None of it is based on any sort of reality as to where we actually are as a team though. To each his own. Fuq em all! :o I ain't fuqqin with that negative energy if I can help it. I have been trying to change my ways!!! Sometimes I backslide! Old habits die hard!! :lol:

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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

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Re: PG: Knicks vs ATL 

Post#400 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:55 am

mpharris36 wrote:Come on guys...the season is absolutely not a success yet. I know we haven't had much success but if they lose in the first round to DET. That is absolutely can not viewed as a success regardless of the amount of regular season wins.

That is not what they built this team for.

Enjoy the season as we go. I am too and not taking wins for granted. But still a lot to be determined.


We ain't losing to DET in the first round! FOH!! WE HERE BRO! We just need to solidify whatever we lack moving forward. We aren't some flash in the pan team. This roster is the real deal. We will be in the race for the foreseeable future UNLESS the unspeakable happens. If we lose in the first round Thibs should be fired before he gets back to the locker room.
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