2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3

[GoRapstheoriginal]

Gonna ask this again since yall ignored it:

Are some of the top 5/6 prospects not going to participate/make it into March Madness?

Like their schools didn't qualify? How do you evaluate them then? imo their stock will drop.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Giving up on a rookie half way between their rookie season is beyond ignorant, especially when that rookie is on a team that doesn’t value winning in any way. If he’s bad in year 3-4 and beyond then we can start having a conversation about him.

wait who believed in him in the first place?

Danny Ainge

idk he did draft gerald green, aaron nesmith and romeo langford

cody looks like he's toast but collier could do something if his shooting comes alive somehow. or just end up poor man's giddey.

[Yallbecrazy]

Gonna ask this again since yall ignored it:

Are some of the top 5/6 prospects not going to participate/make it into March Madness?

Like their schools didn't qualify? How do you evaluate them then? imo their stock will drop.

Harper and Bailey won't make it in, neither will CMB.

[LoveMyRaps]

Gonna ask this again since yall ignored it:

Are some of the top 5/6 prospects not going to participate/make it into March Madness?

Like their schools didn't qualify? How do you evaluate them then? imo their stock will drop.

Ace and Dylan aren't gonna be there for sure. Rutgers stink. Their stock will be fine though. They're locked into the top 3.

Cooper, VJ, Maluach, Kasp, Queen, Knueppel will definitely be there.

Fears/Oklahoma and McNeely/UConn will likely be there.

Demin/BYU, Tre/Texas, and Newell/Georgia might sneak in. 50/50

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

the big issue with cody williams was that all his good games came against awful defensive teams and his shots were all in-rhythm catch and shoot. the kid has zero self-creation ability and must entirely play off of teammates. his scoring ability was and is just too horrible to take advantage of whatever positive qualities he has as a connective player (+ast:to/secondary playmaking, neutral or slightly above defender).

[BoyzNTheHood]

wait who believed in him in the first place?

Danny Ainge

idk he did draft gerald green, aaron nesmith and romeo langford

cody looks like he's toast but collier could do something if his shooting comes alive somehow. or just end up poor man's giddey.

I’m not going to say Cody impressed me by the end of last season, but it’s still too early to give up on him.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Danny Ainge

idk he did draft gerald green, aaron nesmith and romeo langford

cody looks like he's toast but collier could do something if his shooting comes alive somehow. or just end up poor man's giddey.

I’m not going to say Cody impressed me by the end of last season, but it’s still too early to give up on him.

i understand, i never viewed him as a legitimate prospect in the first place so i cannot give up hope i never had

DRTG of teams Cody Williams scored 10+ pts on this year:

USC - 215th (out of 362)
UCLA - 105th
Arizona St. - 198th
Washington - 214th
Oregon St. - 271st
Oregon - 203rd
California - 293rd
Pepperdine - 295th
Colorado St. - 83rd
Iona - 179th
Florida St. - 225th
Milwaukee - 317th

[BoyzNTheHood]

idk he did draft gerald green, aaron nesmith and romeo langford

cody looks like he's toast but collier could do something if his shooting comes alive somehow. or just end up poor man's giddey.

I’m not going to say Cody impressed me by the end of last season, but it’s still too early to give up on him.

i understand, i never viewed him as a legitimate prospect in the first place so i cannot give up hope i never had

DRTG of teams Cody Williams scored 10+ pts on this year:

USC - 215th (out of 362)
UCLA - 105th
Arizona St. - 198th
Washington - 214th
Oregon St. - 271st
Oregon - 203rd
California - 293rd
Pepperdine - 295th
Colorado St. - 83rd
Iona - 179th
Florida St. - 225th
Milwaukee - 317th

That’s fair, but we’re not going to start pulling receipts in here otherwise a lot of us would be embarrassed

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

i will say that isaiah collier has been the most surprising and producing in unexpected ways lately. he's doing an excellent job looking to create for others and because he has always been a bully ball rim pressure guy seeing him with only a .166 ftr is wild. maybe he can invent himself as a pass-first pg which would help mask some of his scoring issues by just being less dependent on scoring volume.

i'm pretty impressed with his play as of late but we'll see if it's sustainable.

[Syd-TK3]

Gonna ask this again since yall ignored it:

Are some of the top 5/6 prospects not going to participate/make it into March Madness?

Like their schools didn't qualify? How do you evaluate them then? imo their stock will drop.

Ace and Dylan aren't gonna be there for sure. Rutgers stink. Their stock will be fine though. They're locked into the top 3.

Cooper, VJ, Maluach, Kasp, Queen, Knueppel will definitely be there.

Fears/Oklahoma and McNeely/UConn will likely be there.

Demin/BYU, Tre/Texas, and Newell/Georgia might sneak in. 50/50

I think VJ could sneak into the 2nd or 3rd spot with a good tournament

[grant101]

i will say that isaiah collier has been the most surprising and producing in unexpected ways lately. he's doing an excellent job looking to create for others and because he has always been a bully ball rim pressure guy seeing him with only a .166 ftr is wild. maybe he can invent himself as a pass-first pg which would help mask some of his scoring issues by just being less dependent on scoring volume.

i'm pretty impressed with his play as of late but we'll see if it's sustainable.

Still early days for him. I think his rim pressure comes along and the passing was always there. He was never the chucker folks tried to label him as. The 3pt % is ugly, but he’s doing enough good to keep himself on the floor. People were way too quick to label him a bust.

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I think I said that Tristan DaSilva was the reason why Colorado was good.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

i will say that isaiah collier has been the most surprising and producing in unexpected ways lately. he's doing an excellent job looking to create for others and because he has always been a bully ball rim pressure guy seeing him with only a .166 ftr is wild. maybe he can invent himself as a pass-first pg which would help mask some of his scoring issues by just being less dependent on scoring volume.

i'm pretty impressed with his play as of late but we'll see if it's sustainable.

Still early days for him. I think his rim pressure comes along and the passing was always there. He was never the chucker folks tried to label him as. The 3pt % is ugly, but he’s doing enough good to keep himself on the floor. People were way too quick to label him a bust.

i mean he has some major issues but between him and an entitled **** like cody williams at least there is hope for one of them to carve out a positive production career.

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I think I said that Tristan DaSilva was the reason why Colorado was good.

dasilva is a total bum too

before the draft i went through the entire database of 23 year old players with his level of PER and BPM and there wasn't a single successful NBA story. the closest he needed to match in production efficiency was mason plumlee and he wasn't even close.

oddly enough egor demin reminds me of some kind of primitive form of tristan da silva if da silva were tasked with lead ballhandling. which is a death sentence for demin.

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I think I said that Tristan DaSilva was the reason why Colorado was good.

dasilva is a total bum too

before the draft i went through the entire database of 23 year old players with his level of PER and BPM and there wasn't a single successful NBA story. the closest he needed to match in production efficiency was mason plumlee and he wasn't even close.

oddly enough egor demin reminds me of some kind of primitive form of tristan da silva if da silva were tasked with lead ballhandling. which is a death sentence for demin.

DaSilva is a forward and has an A/T of like 2 and shooting 42/33/86.

What do you mean by success? I think he is an MLE level player that might be able to be a starter in the right situation.

[Ell Curry]

He has to play the 5, he's not going to play the 4 in the NBA, or I don't think teams will project that from him. He's going to be able to take any 5 off the dribble tho, so if he can hit the 3 respectively, and play some sort of defense, he'll be a viable backup 5. His shot and defense is what will take him to the next level

I dunno. He's a decent weakside block threat and Michigan switches 1-4 (Big 10 perimeter players are generally not terrifyingly athletic on damn near every team). He might be better off hiding at the 4 on a 3+D wing and having a proper rim protector on the court next to him. Someone like Bam or even a rim runner like Jarrett Allen might be a good fit.

Obviously on O, yeah, you want him at the 5 pulling out centers and roasting them by hitting 3s and attacking closeouts.

It's not a binary. Scottie might work as a partner . He blocks shots and rebounds, can switch onto most centers okay, shaky shot, good finisher inside. It's not a bad fit, really. A 4/5 might fit best, and Scottie can be that for 20 minutes a night.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I’m not going to say Cody impressed me by the end of last season, but it’s still too early to give up on him.

i understand, i never viewed him as a legitimate prospect in the first place so i cannot give up hope i never had

DRTG of teams Cody Williams scored 10+ pts on this year:

USC - 215th (out of 362)
UCLA - 105th
Arizona St. - 198th
Washington - 214th
Oregon St. - 271st
Oregon - 203rd
California - 293rd
Pepperdine - 295th
Colorado St. - 83rd
Iona - 179th
Florida St. - 225th
Milwaukee - 317th

That’s fair, but we’re not going to start pulling receipts in here otherwise a lot of us would be embarrassed

most people here got very angry when i came in here and immediately and confidently targeted and trashed keyonte george, nick smith jr, jett howard and jalen hood-schifino who are all total trashcans in retrospect. i'm just trying to expose the fake prospects and if i feel passionately about it i'll scream it from the rooftops just like i can confidently say with a bunch of guys this year most notably egor demin. i'd add traore to the list but i think people have finally given up although i see mocks with him still going lottery which is mind boggling. i also tried to warn the board about a lot of guys this past year and keep getting the same arguments about this or that guy being not athletic enough or too small or this or that.

idk if it's PTSD from watching fred for so many years but the people on this board seem to be too obsessed with size and perceived lack of athleticism. TJD, McCain, Podz, Edey, Haliburton, Bane, Maxey, Pritchard, etc... concerns around them all

Very few players emerge as good NBA assets from every class and there are always tons of talented guys who are perceived as not having potential due to size/athleticism issues yet many of whom overcome it with craft, skill and IQ.

[BoyzNTheHood]

i understand, i never viewed him as a legitimate prospect in the first place so i cannot give up hope i never had

That’s fair, but we’re not going to start pulling receipts in here otherwise a lot of us would be embarrassed

most people here got very angry when i came in here and immediately and confidently targeted and trashed keyonte george, nick smith jr, jett howard and jalen hood-schifino who are all total trashcans in retrospect. i'm just trying to expose the fake prospects and if i feel passionately about it i'll scream it from the rooftops just like i can confidently say with a bunch of guys this year most notably egor demin. i'd add traore to the list but i think people have finally given up although i see mocks with him still going lottery which is mind boggling. i also tried to warn the board about a lot of guys this past year and keep getting the same arguments about this or that guy being not athletic enough or too small or this or that.

idk if it's PTSD from watching fred for so many years but the people on this board seem to be too obsessed with size and perceived lack of athleticism. TJD, McCain, Podz, Edey, Haliburton, Bane, Maxey, Pritchard, etc... concerns around them all

Very few players emerge as good NBA assets from every class and there are always tons of talented guys who are perceived as not having potential due to size/athleticism issues yet many of whom overcome it with craft, skill and IQ.

I mean yeah, and you also screamed Marcus Sasser’s name from the rooftops too. So let’s not pull receipts because we’ll all be in here with egg on our faces.

[Ell Curry]

Gonna ask this again since yall ignored it:

Are some of the top 5/6 prospects not going to participate/make it into March Madness?

Like their schools didn't qualify? How do you evaluate them then? imo their stock will drop.

Harper and Bailey won't make it in, neither will CMB.

I'm not some big CMB guy (no opinion on if he can learn to shoot), but if he'd transferred to a team with great shooting around him, his stats case might look undeniable for top 10. People would be talking themselves into a top 10 slot if he had the normal improvement as a scorer and passer with proper 3pt threats around him and not whatever is going on in South Carolina.

The Rutgers kids, yeah, they're going top 4, maybe Bailey goes 5th if the 3rd picking team has him #4 on their board and the #4 team both is lower on him and very high (like we were on Barnes) on some next tier prospect (feels like Maluach - he's huge - and Jakucionis, good size for a guard, impressive first year in the states overall, and some kid playing in Europe is always a dark horse possibility).

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

That’s fair, but we’re not going to start pulling receipts in here otherwise a lot of us would be embarrassed

most people here got very angry when i came in here and immediately and confidently targeted and trashed keyonte george, nick smith jr, jett howard and jalen hood-schifino who are all total trashcans in retrospect. i'm just trying to expose the fake prospects and if i feel passionately about it i'll scream it from the rooftops just like i can confidently say with a bunch of guys this year most notably egor demin. i'd add traore to the list but i think people have finally given up although i see mocks with him still going lottery which is mind boggling. i also tried to warn the board about a lot of guys this past year and keep getting the same arguments about this or that guy being not athletic enough or too small or this or that.

idk if it's PTSD from watching fred for so many years but the people on this board seem to be too obsessed with size and perceived lack of athleticism. TJD, McCain, Podz, Edey, Haliburton, Bane, Maxey, Pritchard, etc... concerns around them all

Very few players emerge as good NBA assets from every class and there are always tons of talented guys who are perceived as not having potential due to size/athleticism issues yet many of whom overcome it with craft, skill and IQ.

I mean yeah, and you also screamed Marcus Sasser’s name from the rooftops too. So let’s not pull receipts because we’ll all be in here with egg on our faces.

ok but what if we pull up a receipt of me saying i want sasser over GTJ or even Ty Jerome as an FA?

i've been a ty jerome truther for years

Post#65 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:55 pm

The more I look at the FA market the more I think the Raps could put forth a serious offer for Ty Jerome. Jerome's performance this year with GSW has been eye-opening and he's the type of player you can likely pay as a bench player and get good productivity as a starter if you need to use him in that capacity.

He's a steady ball handler who doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective, his shooting has been tremendous and he has shown good ability to move the ball and find teammates all the while not being a major defensive liability.

His numbers per 36 this year are impressive:

10.8 FGA
51% FG%
41% 3PT%
2.0 FTA
91% FT%
5.9 AST
1.3 TOV
1.0 STL

Raps will need at least one cheap guard in FA, he might be worth bringing in on a 2 year deal.

all things considered sasser was a very exciting college player who finished 14th on my big board and has been like 17th-18th best player from the class so far. at certain points he looked flat out dominant. he has taken a pretty solid production jump from last year and could end up giving that late lotto value in retrospect.