Luka AD trade thread Part II

[zero rings]

So far neither team is winning this trade. AD immediately got injured, and Luka looks like the Michelin man out there. He’s been terrible through two games.

We probably won’t know who won this trade for years, but so far Nico and the Mavs don’t look like the crazy people they’ve been made out to be. Lakers aren’t winning anything with a fat, out of shape Luka. He needs to get his act together.

luka coming off a injury since CHRISTMAS looks Ok but not great through two games on a minutes restriction and AD is hurt again...two things that we both expected...

I would ask you this...if things go exactly as we expect- AD will be as his name suggest Anthony "day to day" Davis and Luka will be Luka magic... if things just continue as they always have for both players the Lakers win... as someone else astutely called out...AD without Lebron was a good player but a oft injured loser in NO and Lukas teams have gotten better year over year...

as we say "past performance doesn't ensure future returns" but damnit I buy stocks from companies that have track records of winning !

Would you buy Amazon stock if Jeff Bezos suddenly sold off all his shares?

Because that’s what the Mavs just did with Luka. It’s CRAZY to me how people are not alarmed by that.

[LLJ]

Luka needs the ball in his hands to be effective. LeBron will need to give up touches to maximize Luka's strengths offensively and so far they're still primarily running things through LeBron

[Vampirate]

This entire situation feels so surreal it feels like it's part of some movie plot line. I feel like the Mavs situation is actually dwarfing the idea of Luka being on the Lakers.

No offense Mavs fans, but this is just.....bizarre.

[CobraCommander]

So far neither team is winning this trade. AD immediately got injured, and Luka looks like the Michelin man out there. He’s been terrible through two games.

We probably won’t know who won this trade for years, but so far Nico and the Mavs don’t look like the crazy people they’ve been made out to be. Lakers aren’t winning anything with a fat, out of shape Luka. He needs to get his act together.

luka coming off a injury since CHRISTMAS looks Ok but not great through two games on a minutes restriction and AD is hurt again...two things that we both expected...

I would ask you this...if things go exactly as we expect- AD will be as his name suggest Anthony "day to day" Davis and Luka will be Luka magic... if things just continue as they always have for both players the Lakers win... as someone else astutely called out...AD without Lebron was a good player but a oft injured loser in NO and Lukas teams have gotten better year over year...

as we say "past performance doesn't ensure future returns" but damnit I buy stocks from companies that have track records of winning !

Would you buy Amazon stock if Jeff Bezos suddenly sold off all his shares?

Because that’s what the Mavs just did with Luka. It’s CRAZY to me how people are not alarmed by that.

no I wouldnt and I think it says more about Luka than it does about the Mavs....

cause the mavs sold ALL their stock in LUKA ...they kept the team. so either the mavs ownership is crazy and idiotic or we are...cause I think this is stupid AF

[madmaxmedia]

luka coming off a injury since CHRISTMAS looks Ok but not great through two games on a minutes restriction and AD is hurt again...two things that we both expected...

I would ask you this...if things go exactly as we expect- AD will be as his name suggest Anthony "day to day" Davis and Luka will be Luka magic... if things just continue as they always have for both players the Lakers win... as someone else astutely called out...AD without Lebron was a good player but a oft injured loser in NO and Lukas teams have gotten better year over year...

as we say "past performance doesn't ensure future returns" but damnit I buy stocks from companies that have track records of winning !

Would you buy Amazon stock if Jeff Bezos suddenly sold off all his shares?

Because that’s what the Mavs just did with Luka. It’s CRAZY to me how people are not alarmed by that.

no I wouldnt and I think it says more about Luka than it does about the Mavs....

cause the mavs sold ALL their stock in LUKA ...they kept the team. so either the mavs ownership is crazy and idiotic or we are...cause I think this is stupid AF

Actually I would probably buy AMZN if I could get it for 10 cents on the dollar, which is what the Mavs sold off Luka for.

[zero rings]

Would you buy Amazon stock if Jeff Bezos suddenly sold off all his shares?

Because that’s what the Mavs just did with Luka. It’s CRAZY to me how people are not alarmed by that.

no I wouldnt and I think it says more about Luka than it does about the Mavs....

cause the mavs sold ALL their stock in LUKA ...they kept the team. so either the mavs ownership is crazy and idiotic or we are...cause I think this is stupid AF

Actually I would probably buy AMZN if I could get it for 10 cents on the dollar, which is what the Mavs sold off Luka for.

Here’s the thing: the Mavs had Luka in their building for 6.5 years. They know him better than any of us do. They know about his work ethic, his off the court habits, how his teammates and coaches feel about him, all of it.

And they said WE’RE OUT. Any honest observer should be very concerned about what this means for Luka going forward. Teams don’t just give up on their golden goose for no reason.

[Ruma85]

no I wouldnt and I think it says more about Luka than it does about the Mavs....

cause the mavs sold ALL their stock in LUKA ...they kept the team. so either the mavs ownership is crazy and idiotic or we are...cause I think this is stupid AF

Actually I would probably buy AMZN if I could get it for 10 cents on the dollar, which is what the Mavs sold off Luka for.

Here’s the thing: the Mavs had Luka in their building for 6.5 years. They know him better than any of us do. They know about his work ethic, his off the court habits, how his teammates and coaches feel about him, all of it.

And they said WE’RE OUT. Any honest observer should be very concerned about what this means for Luka going forward. Teams don’t just give up on their golden goose for no reason.

Sorry not sorry, this is B.S, I loved that the Lakers got him, but that's not how you trade a player of his caliber, this is a bad outlook on the organization.

[Me Like Lakers]

no I wouldnt and I think it says more about Luka than it does about the Mavs....

cause the mavs sold ALL their stock in LUKA ...they kept the team. so either the mavs ownership is crazy and idiotic or we are...cause I think this is stupid AF

Actually I would probably buy AMZN if I could get it for 10 cents on the dollar, which is what the Mavs sold off Luka for.

Here’s the thing: the Mavs had Luka in their building for 6.5 years. They know him better than any of us do. They know about his work ethic, his off the court habits, how his teammates and coaches feel about him, all of it.

And they said WE’RE OUT. Any honest observer should be very concerned about what this means for Luka going forward. Teams don’t just give up on their golden goose for no reason.

The thing is, even if they knew all that, they were the only ones with this information. As such, they could have got way more from every team of the league (including the Lakers if they were dead set on AD). That's the main problem of the trade from Dallas perspective.

[zero rings]

Actually I would probably buy AMZN if I could get it for 10 cents on the dollar, which is what the Mavs sold off Luka for.

Here’s the thing: the Mavs had Luka in their building for 6.5 years. They know him better than any of us do. They know about his work ethic, his off the court habits, how his teammates and coaches feel about him, all of it.

And they said WE’RE OUT. Any honest observer should be very concerned about what this means for Luka going forward. Teams don’t just give up on their golden goose for no reason.

The thing is, even if they knew all that, they were the only ones with this information. As such, they could have got way more from every team of the league (including the Lakers if they were dead set on AD). That's the main problem of the trade from Dallas perspective.

I don’t disagree. I wouldn’t have done this deal without getting Reaves or the other first rounder at a minimum.

But for whatever reason, the Mavs were the more desperate party and Pelinka was able to whittle the price down. I think they feared the deal falling apart and the whole world learning they tried to trade Luka, but with him still on the team. That would be an even bigger PR disaster than what they have now.

[CobraCommander]

Here’s the thing: the Mavs had Luka in their building for 6.5 years. They know him better than any of us do. They know about his work ethic, his off the court habits, how his teammates and coaches feel about him, all of it.

And they said WE’RE OUT. Any honest observer should be very concerned about what this means for Luka going forward. Teams don’t just give up on their golden goose for no reason.

The thing is, even if they knew all that, they were the only ones with this information. As such, they could have got way more from every team of the league (including the Lakers if they were dead set on AD). That's the main problem of the trade from Dallas perspective.

I don’t disagree. I wouldn’t have done the is deal without getting Reaves or the other first rounder at a minimum.

But for whatever reason, the Mavs were the more desperate party and Pelinka was able to whittle the price down. I think they feared the deal falling apart and the whole world learning they tried to trade Luka, but with him still on the team. That would be an even bigger PR disaster than what they have now.

completely agree....but no way in the world would I only get AD back - and no way I would trade a guy like Luka to my rival. Luka would be in the east and I would have tried to send him to Boston for Brown, Jru and White...

[JellosJigglin]

no I wouldnt and I think it says more about Luka than it does about the Mavs....

cause the mavs sold ALL their stock in LUKA ...they kept the team. so either the mavs ownership is crazy and idiotic or we are...cause I think this is stupid AF

Actually I would probably buy AMZN if I could get it for 10 cents on the dollar, which is what the Mavs sold off Luka for.

Here’s the thing: the Mavs had Luka in their building for 6.5 years. They know him better than any of us do. They know about his work ethic, his off the court habits, how his teammates and coaches feel about him, all of it.

And they said WE’RE OUT. Any honest observer should be very concerned about what this means for Luka going forward. Teams don’t just give up on their golden goose for no reason.

The Lakers have dealt with superstars and their egos for a very long time. Magic Johnson famously took Paul Westhead's playbook and chucked it in the ocean and told the coach that he was the playbook. Phil Jackson stormed into the owners office and demanded Kobe be traded for his stubborn attitude, and Dr. Buss laughed in his face. We all know about Shaq showing up to camp fat and using the regular season to "work himself into shape". Dennis Rodman literally went missing in the middle of a season lol.

Whether it's attitude issues or poor health maintenance or work ethic, the Buss family has seen it before. Luka is a saint compared to previous superstars in a Laker jersey. The concerns about Luka might very well be legitimate, but they're not a good enough reason to trade the guy at 25. At 31 or 32? Sure. Shaq was 32 when they moved him to Miami, the year he famously got surgery "on company time". They put up with his fat, lazy self and got 3 rings out of him before moving him.

[doogie_hauser]

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[Baz]

This entire situation feels so surreal it feels like it's part of some movie plot line. I feel like the Mavs situation is actually dwarfing the idea of Luka being on the Lakers.

No offense Mavs fans, but this is just.....bizarre.

The story is still playing out and it could get a hell of a lot worse. I HIGHLY doubt the owners have any interest in fixing the mess and winning back the fans. If anything they've shown the opposite. It spells Vegas.

[doogie_hauser]

Max Christie is killing it for the Mavs !

Lolakers

[Deivork]

no I wouldnt and I think it says more about Luka than it does about the Mavs....

cause the mavs sold ALL their stock in LUKA ...they kept the team. so either the mavs ownership is crazy and idiotic or we are...cause I think this is stupid AF

Actually I would probably buy AMZN if I could get it for 10 cents on the dollar, which is what the Mavs sold off Luka for.

Here’s the thing: the Mavs had Luka in their building for 6.5 years. They know him better than any of us do. They know about his work ethic, his off the court habits, how his teammates and coaches feel about him, all of it.

And they said WE’RE OUT. Any honest observer should be very concerned about what this means for Luka going forward. Teams don’t just give up on their golden goose for no reason.

So basically the discussion hinges on whether you believe that narrative or the collusion narrative.

I tend to lean on the very much economically-yummy potential conspiracy, but both arguments can be just as fallacious.

You say if Dallas did it, there must be something behind. That's fallacious. Is Luka perfect? No. Was Kobe? Was LeBron? Was Jordan? Was Shaq? Is Giannis? No, hardly. Do teams trade their superstar in their prime despite all their faults? NeVer.

[Deivork]

This entire situation feels so surreal it feels like it's part of some movie plot line. I feel like the Mavs situation is actually dwarfing the idea of Luka being on the Lakers.

No offense Mavs fans, but this is just.....bizarre.

The story is still playing out and it could get a hell of a lot worse. I HIGHLY doubt the owners have any interest in fixing the mess and winning back the fans. If anything they've shown the opposite. It spells Vegas.

Please explain more if you know more about this.

[Deivork]

Actually I would probably buy AMZN if I could get it for 10 cents on the dollar, which is what the Mavs sold off Luka for.

Here’s the thing: the Mavs had Luka in their building for 6.5 years. They know him better than any of us do. They know about his work ethic, his off the court habits, how his teammates and coaches feel about him, all of it.

And they said WE’RE OUT. Any honest observer should be very concerned about what this means for Luka going forward. Teams don’t just give up on their golden goose for no reason.

The Lakers have dealt with superstars and their egos for a very long time. Magic Johnson famously took Paul Westhead's playbook and chucked it in the ocean and told the coach that he was the playbook. Phil Jackson stormed into the owners office and demanded Kobe be traded for his stubborn attitude, and Dr. Buss laughed in his face. We all know about Shaq showing up to camp fat and using the regular season to "work himself into shape". Dennis Rodman literally went missing in the middle of a season lol.

Whether it's attitude issues or poor health maintenance or work ethic, the Buss family has seen it before. Luka is a saint compared to previous superstars in a Laker jersey. The concerns about Luka might very well be legitimate, but they're not a good enough reason to trade the guy at 25. At 31 or 32? Sure. Shaq was 32 when they moved him to Miami, the year he famously got surgery "on company time". They put up with his fat, lazy self and got 3 rings out of him before moving him.

[HardenGoat]

This entire situation feels so surreal it feels like it's part of some movie plot line. I feel like the Mavs situation is actually dwarfing the idea of Luka being on the Lakers.

No offense Mavs fans, but this is just.....bizarre.

The story is still playing out and it could get a hell of a lot worse. I HIGHLY doubt the owners have any interest in fixing the mess and winning back the fans. If anything they've shown the opposite. It spells Vegas.

I bet LeBron gets some part ownership as well when it’s all said and done. That is going to not sit well with Luka. I think he’s seen the light and is part of why he can’t even play well.

[zero rings]

Actually I would probably buy AMZN if I could get it for 10 cents on the dollar, which is what the Mavs sold off Luka for.

Here’s the thing: the Mavs had Luka in their building for 6.5 years. They know him better than any of us do. They know about his work ethic, his off the court habits, how his teammates and coaches feel about him, all of it.

And they said WE’RE OUT. Any honest observer should be very concerned about what this means for Luka going forward. Teams don’t just give up on their golden goose for no reason.

The Lakers have dealt with superstars and their egos for a very long time. Magic Johnson famously took Paul Westhead's playbook and chucked it in the ocean and told the coach that he was the playbook. Phil Jackson stormed into the owners office and demanded Kobe be traded for his stubborn attitude, and Dr. Buss laughed in his face. We all know about Shaq showing up to camp fat and using the regular season to "work himself into shape". Dennis Rodman literally went missing in the middle of a season lol.

Whether it's attitude issues or poor health maintenance or work ethic, the Buss family has seen it before. Luka is a saint compared to previous superstars in a Laker jersey. The concerns about Luka might very well be legitimate, but they're not a good enough reason to trade the guy at 25. At 31 or 32? Sure. Shaq was 32 when they moved him to Miami, the year he famously got surgery "on company time". They put up with his fat, lazy self and got 3 rings out of him before moving him.

Clearly the Mavs didn't view Luka as a Shaq or Magic type of player, otherwise they would have tolerated his poor conditioning and bad attitude.

I don't think he's that caliber of player either tbh.

[CobraCommander]

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