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What’s their ceiling? Both are starting to look like freaks. They both look different when they are on the floor compared to anyone else. Like they’re gliding at times.
They’re different on offense. Both are leaping though. On defense, they’re similar. They both smother, and are faster than everyone on the court.
I honestly think they both have “elite” futures. That’s my opinion. Big reason the Rockets and Pistons are doing good right now, is they each have one of the twins.
They’re different on offense. Both are leaping though. On defense, they’re similar. They both smother, and are faster than everyone on the court.
I honestly think they both have “elite” futures. That’s my opinion. Big reason the Rockets and Pistons are doing good right now, is they each have one of the twins.
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I think this was their ceiling, but I don't see much of an elite future in front of them. Feels like their peak was in 1984.
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I dont see Stars out of either just yet, but i see very good starting guards out of both. They had the potential all along just needed some time to click in to place.
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Slimjimzv wrote:I think this was their ceiling, but I don't see much of an elite future in front of them. Feels like their peak was in 1984.
Great song.
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Han Solo wrote:Slimjimzv wrote:I think this was their ceiling, but I don't see much of an elite future in front of them. Feels like their peak was in 1984.
Great song.
Not great longevity, but really high peak for a couple of seasons/albums before injuries took their toll. Tom Bailey is apparently still playing, mostly internationally.
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Slimjimzv wrote:I think this was their ceiling, but I don't see much of an elite future in front of them. Feels like their peak was in 1984.
Damn. I was going to post something similar but had work to do.
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Amen is showing more offensive upside, but he also has a bigger ball handling role with the Rockets where he's getting more opportunities. Because of that and his crazy defensive skill, he's on the rise fast and is looking like a future all star.
Ausar on the other hand, on top of injuries like his blood clot issue holding him back for months, is more of a pure defender and slasher at the 3 for Detroit. I'm sure he'll find his jumper, but for now he feels like more of a roleplayer that could possibly take a Herb Jones route of progression, or a Vandy with more guard skills if the shot goes nowhere. When Cade was out the other night and Dennis was just getting to the team, Ausar had some ballhandling opportunity and you could see the flashes of what Amen is currently doing, but much sloppier.
They're so versatile, I think no matter what position they're put in they'll find success. Whether its PG ball handler, pure defender wing, etc.
The sky is the limit for them. When it's all said and done these dudes are going to have some defensive accolades under their belt.
Ausar on the other hand, on top of injuries like his blood clot issue holding him back for months, is more of a pure defender and slasher at the 3 for Detroit. I'm sure he'll find his jumper, but for now he feels like more of a roleplayer that could possibly take a Herb Jones route of progression, or a Vandy with more guard skills if the shot goes nowhere. When Cade was out the other night and Dennis was just getting to the team, Ausar had some ballhandling opportunity and you could see the flashes of what Amen is currently doing, but much sloppier.
They're so versatile, I think no matter what position they're put in they'll find success. Whether its PG ball handler, pure defender wing, etc.
The sky is the limit for them. When it's all said and done these dudes are going to have some defensive accolades under their belt.

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chilluminati wrote:Amen is showing more offensive upside, but he also has a bigger ball handling role with the Rockets where he's getting more opportunities. Because of that and his crazy defensive skill, he's on the rise fast and is looking like a future all star.
Ausar on the other hand, on top of injuries like his blood clot issue holding him back for months, is more of a pure defender and slasher at the 3 for Detroit. I'm sure he'll find his jumper, but for now he feels like more of a roleplayer that could possibly take a Herb Jones route of progression, or a Vandy with more guard skills if the shot goes nowhere. When Cade was out the other night and Dennis was just getting to the team, Ausar had some ballhandling opportunity and you could see the flashes of what Amen is currently doing, but much sloppier.
They're so versatile, I think no matter what position they're put in they'll find success. Whether its PG ball handler, pure defender wing, etc.
The sky is the limit for them. When it's all said and done these dudes are going to have some defensive accolades under their belt.
That’s why I can’t agree with you. Most of what you said I do. Pistons are full of players that are finally good (the young guys), and we brought in vet’s that just clicked.
Cade leaped. We all know that. Ausar will be much more than a role player on offense. Look at even his last two games.
He’s getting better if feels like every game. I honesty think the Pistons saw what the Rockets were doing with Amen, and started using Ausar that way too.
He’s our third best ball handler on the team now that we acquired Dennis.
I think Ausar has as much potential as Cade does. He might not ever be the offensive player Cade is - but Ausar is something different.
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SkyBill40 wrote:Slimjimzv wrote:I think this was their ceiling, but I don't see much of an elite future in front of them. Feels like their peak was in 1984.Spoiler:
Damn. I was going to post something similar but had work to do.
About a third of us (okay maybe less) immediately thought of the band, the rest are like WTF are they?
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Slimjimzv wrote:I think this was their ceiling, but I don't see much of an elite future in front of them. Feels like their peak was in 1984.
Lies.
They’re gonna get ya.
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Amen is going to make an All-Star team, I am almost sure of it. He does too many things well, with otherworldly athleticism. Ausar, doesn't have/hasn't had as much latitude to show more on the offensive side of the ball. He also had the bloodclot setback. Still, the fact that he's highly competitive and will be working out with his twin every offseason more than likely, makes me extremely bullish on his career as well.
Wouldn't shock me to see both guys really thrive long term.
Wouldn't shock me to see both guys really thrive long term.
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Chuck Everett wrote:Amen is going to make an All-Star team, I am almost sure of it. He does too many things well, with otherworldly athleticism. Ausar, doesn't have/hasn't had as much latitude to show more on the offensive side of the ball. He also had the bloodclot setback. Still, the fact that he's highly competitive and will be working out with his twin every offseason more than likely, makes me extremely bullish on his career as well.
Wouldn't shock me to see both guys really thrive long term.
Ausar’s already starting to show some stuff.
Cade missed a game recently and Ausar played some point and did well. In the two games since, we’re giving him some ballhandling reps and he’s done very well. He’s also getting more aggressive off the dribble, dunking right thru lesser athletes (which is almost everyone) when he can.
Ausar’s development heading into next year will be a big factor in determining our short term ceiling. If he pops as a legit alt-PG and killer defender the way Amen has, we could win 50 games next year.
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ChiTownHero1992 wrote:I dont see Stars out of either just yet, but i see very good starting guards out of both. They had the potential all along just needed some time to click in to place.
Oh i definitely see stars, these kids are insane, i remember last year someone said that these guys can probably run faster backwards, than some guys just regularly. Their lateral and every orher speed is crazy, they are probably first basketball players that i feel could win olympic medals at just other events.
Also, from all I heard, very nice people too, from humble family, very likable. Opposite of Jimmy Butler, Lamelo Ball etc. I heard Sengun had similar upbringing in Turkey as did Giannis in Greece, makes me cheer for guys like Sengun and Amen more so. Ausar is on the Pistons, that team in general is likable, maybe outside Stewart who is just a bully.
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tmorgan wrote:Chuck Everett wrote:Amen is going to make an All-Star team, I am almost sure of it. He does too many things well, with otherworldly athleticism. Ausar, doesn't have/hasn't had as much latitude to show more on the offensive side of the ball. He also had the bloodclot setback. Still, the fact that he's highly competitive and will be working out with his twin every offseason more than likely, makes me extremely bullish on his career as well.
Wouldn't shock me to see both guys really thrive long term.
Ausar’s already starting to show some stuff.
Cade missed a game recently and Ausar played some point and did well. In the two games since, we’re giving him some ballhandling reps and he’s done very well. He’s also getting more aggressive off the dribble, dunking right thru lesser athletes (which is almost everyone) when he can.
Ausar’s development heading into next year will be a big factor in determining our short term ceiling. If he pops as a legit alt-PG and killer defender the way Amen has, we could win 50 games next year.
I'd love to see it. He's a fun player to watch.
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Han Solo wrote:chilluminati wrote:Amen is showing more offensive upside, but he also has a bigger ball handling role with the Rockets where he's getting more opportunities. Because of that and his crazy defensive skill, he's on the rise fast and is looking like a future all star.
Ausar on the other hand, on top of injuries like his blood clot issue holding him back for months, is more of a pure defender and slasher at the 3 for Detroit. I'm sure he'll find his jumper, but for now he feels like more of a roleplayer that could possibly take a Herb Jones route of progression, or a Vandy with more guard skills if the shot goes nowhere. When Cade was out the other night and Dennis was just getting to the team, Ausar had some ballhandling opportunity and you could see the flashes of what Amen is currently doing, but much sloppier.
They're so versatile, I think no matter what position they're put in they'll find success. Whether its PG ball handler, pure defender wing, etc.
The sky is the limit for them. When it's all said and done these dudes are going to have some defensive accolades under their belt.
That’s why I can’t agree with you. Most of what you said I do. Pistons are full of players that are finally good (the young guys), and we brought in vet’s that just clicked.
Cade leaped. We all know that. Ausar will be much more than a role player on offense. Look at even his last two games.
He’s getting better if feels like every game. I honesty think the Pistons saw what the Rockets were doing with Amen, and started using Ausar that way too.
He’s our third best ball handler on the team now that we acquired Dennis.
I think Ausar has as much potential as Cade does. He might not ever be the offensive player Cade is - but Ausar is something different.
Sorry after reading your initial post I didn't exactly answer the question you were asking. Their potential ceiling? The sky is the limit in my eyes. Right now, Ausar feels like a defensive roleplayer with minor ballhandling responsibilities that are growing daily, but that doesn't mean that's what his overall ceiling would be idk why I explained what we already know, smooth brain moment. The Herb Jones comp could still be a ceiling, but we don't even know Herb's ceiling yet so that's kind of premature.
If I had to guess on Ausar's ceiling, he could be a Cade-like impact star, but I have no doubt he'll at the very least have defensive accolades and a few all star nods. These brothers versatility is insane, and they can be molded to pretty much any role a team needs outside of asking them to be pureshooters.

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I think they both have very high ceilings. People have tended to put a cap on them due to their shot (or lack of), and while that's important it's not the ultimate determinator. They are both elite defenders, great rebounders and have athleticism/speed that allows them to get to the rim at will. Amen's playmaking has been really evident this season and even Ausar is starting to show his skills in that area (as he continues to ramp up his minutes/conditioning post-blood clot).
I think they're both a huge reason for their team's success this year. Obviously the Rockets have gone from missing the play-in last season to now top 4 in the West. Since Ivey got injured and Ausar moved into the starting lineup with a larger role the Pistons have gone 14-8, which extrapolating to a 82 game season would be 52 wins.
I think they're both a huge reason for their team's success this year. Obviously the Rockets have gone from missing the play-in last season to now top 4 in the West. Since Ivey got injured and Ausar moved into the starting lineup with a larger role the Pistons have gone 14-8, which extrapolating to a 82 game season would be 52 wins.
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Det just spanked my Bulls two games in a row (both in Chi). Thompson was AWESOME-really made me miss Caruso
His defense was super-elite, and his offense was ok
Don't know about Amen, but seems he's better
His defense was super-elite, and his offense was ok
Don't know about Amen, but seems he's better
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Both will perennially make the All-Defensive Team for years to come barring injuries. Both are insane on that end.
Offensively, Amen is further along and looks like a future All-Star despite not having a jumpshot. Ausar hasn't shown similar playmaking or scoring but he was out for a long time and plays on a worse team. Adding a jumpshot is probably more of a requirement for him than it is for Amen.
Offensively, Amen is further along and looks like a future All-Star despite not having a jumpshot. Ausar hasn't shown similar playmaking or scoring but he was out for a long time and plays on a worse team. Adding a jumpshot is probably more of a requirement for him than it is for Amen.
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Need to see more around shot creation before we can really talk about ceiling. Shot creation is really the differentiating factor between like all-nba player and fringe all-star.
Both of their shots need to be completely changed, especially Ausar, who has really awful form. It's slow, flat, and really inconsistent motion.
Neither are super creative or shifty as ball handlers or playmakers.
Both of their shots need to be completely changed, especially Ausar, who has really awful form. It's slow, flat, and really inconsistent motion.
Neither are super creative or shifty as ball handlers or playmakers.
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they're incredibly exciting. I've never been more excited for young prospects off pure athleticism in years. Like all the recent stars have been selected for insane physical attributes. These guys are simple athletic freaks. Yes Ant Man and Ja went on to show their athleticism as young studs, but even they were not as exciting imo as what these two do on a night to night basis. Like they are LeBron genetics with modern training and medicine, it's kind of unreal.
Amen looks like an All NBA guy
Ausar is the curious one, because he's obviously had issues but when you watch you can see he has the same tier of athletic ability. His defense is elite already, maybe he's some teams Draymond.
Amen looks like an All NBA guy
Ausar is the curious one, because he's obviously had issues but when you watch you can see he has the same tier of athletic ability. His defense is elite already, maybe he's some teams Draymond.