2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3
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Also, looks like he can stretch it out a bit. I’m not too familiar with his game becauese I dont watch a creighton game unless theyre in the tourney, but I know he’s been good for a while and by his stats, looks like his rebounding could be a bit better, but otherwise projects to be a good defender, and if he could develop shooting it, could end up as a nice bench piece. Someone to look at with our second rounder for sure. Would love us to find a quality backup for jak at that pick and then sign a veteran as well this off-season, like a luke Kornet or something.
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PoundTown wrote:REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
Also, looks like he can stretch it out a bit. I’m not too familiar with his game becauese I dont watch a creighton game unless theyre in the tourney, but I know he’s been good for a while and by his stats, looks like his rebounding could be a bit better, but otherwise projects to be a good defender, and if he could develop shooting it, could end up as a nice bench piece. Someone to look at with our second rounder for sure. Would love us to find a quality backup for jak at that pick and then sign a veteran as well this off-season, like a luke Kornet or something.
From the reports/discussions he’s bad at switching direction apparently, slower lane agility than Edey.
If he doesn’t work out, he could still be a 3rd string big and used in spot circumstances against large C’s like Clingan/Edey/Kessler/Zubac.
Ideally, a faster version of him fits the archetype that our team currently needs behind Poeltl.
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Kaulkbrenner is going to be a bust he's too slow. We need an athletic big that has good second jump and great mechanics on his shot. This screams Newell to me.
There's never a shortage of efficient scoring either. If we can get a shifty scorer like Johnson or even better Fears I'd be happy. There's no way we pick a big man in the lottery though. Bigs are usually cheaper than scoring 2 way guards.
This draft is so deep I would consider trading down for an additional pick. We could walk away with some great pieces. Newell and Fears both have a low stock as of now.
Poeltl / Newell / Wolf
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Agbaji
Barrett / Dick / Walter
Quickley / Fears / Shead
The more depth we have the better. We need to load manage our starters and find a way into the playoffs. We will also eventually need to buy a superstar.
There's never a shortage of efficient scoring either. If we can get a shifty scorer like Johnson or even better Fears I'd be happy. There's no way we pick a big man in the lottery though. Bigs are usually cheaper than scoring 2 way guards.
This draft is so deep I would consider trading down for an additional pick. We could walk away with some great pieces. Newell and Fears both have a low stock as of now.
Poeltl / Newell / Wolf
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Agbaji
Barrett / Dick / Walter
Quickley / Fears / Shead
The more depth we have the better. We need to load manage our starters and find a way into the playoffs. We will also eventually need to buy a superstar.
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HiJiNX wrote:?s=46&t=PK_PTsLkYYyXkyf21hlLzg
This is one stat I have trouble finding data on. Preferably if you could filter it further for halfcourt contested rim fg% as to filter out fastbreaks.
What website can this be found on?
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A 5th year senior really shouldn't be considered a peer on that list, but definitely worth a flier in the 2nd.
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Yallbecrazy wrote:HiJiNX wrote:?s=46&t=PK_PTsLkYYyXkyf21hlLzg
This is one stat I have trouble finding data on. Preferably if you could filter it further for halfcourt contested rim fg% as to filter out fastbreaks.
What website can this be found on?
It matches pretty closely with Close 2s on Bartovik.
This is a propaganda post, though. You'll get a LOT of really good results from freshmen. It's like the high BPM argument. It doesn't mean you'll be good at the next level, it just means there's fewer players that are good with a lower FG at close 2s. For example Devin Booker took like 50 shots from that range. Justice Winslow took almost 3X as many and also had a really high %.
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ATLTimekeeper wrote:Yallbecrazy wrote:HiJiNX wrote:?s=46&t=PK_PTsLkYYyXkyf21hlLzg
This is one stat I have trouble finding data on. Preferably if you could filter it further for halfcourt contested rim fg% as to filter out fastbreaks.
What website can this be found on?
It matches pretty closely with Close 2s on Bartovik.
This is a propaganda post, though. You'll get a LOT of really good results from freshmen. It's like the high BPM argument. It doesn't mean you'll be good at the next level, it just means there's fewer players that are good with a lower FG at close 2s. For example Devin Booker took like 50 shots from that range. Justice Winslow took almost 3X as many and also had a really high %.
Onballcreator is one of the worst accounts on draft twitter. He repeatedly flamed jared mccain last year and suggested hunter sallis is a better player that him. Most of his takes are horrible.
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ATLTimekeeper wrote:REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
A 5th year senior really shouldn't be considered a peer on that list, but definitely worth a flier in the 2nd.
As long as you interpret it properly and cap Kalkbrenner as maxing out as a productive rotation player instead of a starter I think it's a very relevant list that brings to light skills that matter. Kalk has the size too and not spoken of is his extreme defensive discipline learned as a product of the creighton system.
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Thaddy wrote:Kaulkbrenner is going to be a bust he's too slow. We need an athletic big that has good second jump and great mechanics on his shot. This screams Newell to me.
There's never a shortage of efficient scoring either. If we can get a shifty scorer like Johnson or even better Fears I'd be happy. There's no way we pick a big man in the lottery though. Bigs are usually cheaper than scoring 2 way guards.
This draft is so deep I would consider trading down for an additional pick. We could walk away with some great pieces. Newell and Fears both have a low stock as of now.
Poeltl / Newell / Wolf
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Agbaji
Barrett / Dick / Walter
Quickley / Fears / Shead
The more depth we have the better. We need to load manage our starters and find a way into the playoffs. We will also eventually need to buy a superstar.
You said the same about edey and also were interested in hansen yang who is way slower than Kalk with **** dimensions. Kalk is going to outplay the crap of wherever he gets drafted.
Newell I'm warming up to a bit but I need more time to figure him out.
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Kalkbrenner will get noticed in March. He could sneak into the 20s if someone thinks they can hide his athleticism. Smarts can go a long way though.
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6ixpessant wrote:Kalkbrenner will get noticed in March. He could sneak into the 20s if someone thinks they can hide his athleticism. Smarts can go a long way though.
I hope Boston drafts him at #28 as a cheap replacement for Luke Kornet (should get the MLE next season).
Likely Boston can get him with #31. Charlotte has a couple of early 2nds too.

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Psubs wrote:6ixpessant wrote:Kalkbrenner will get noticed in March. He could sneak into the 20s if someone thinks they can hide his athleticism. Smarts can go a long way though.
I hope Boston drafts him at #28 as a cheap replacement for Luke Kornet (should get the MLE next season).
Likely Boston can get him with #31. Charlotte has a couple of early 2nds too.
The one concern that has existed with kalk are his rebounding numbers but creighton has always been strong at team rebounding with him on the floor and i think it's largely due to how good kalkbrenner is at boxing out opponents.
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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Newell I'm warming up to a bit but I need more time to figure him out.
I'm not even trying to exaggerate here, Asa Newell basically has 0 red flags in his production right now. Some might point to his low AST% (7 per Torvik), but to me his low TO% in combination with his respectable USG% (22.4 per Torvik) offsets it, because his AST/TO ratio (0.9 per Torvik) is better than numerous past prospects who have hit in the draft with AST/TO ratios in the 0.6-0.8 range. IMO a completely undraftable AST/TO ratio is at or below 0.5 (Maluach and Ace Bailey territory).
His free throw rate was previously too low for his position and measurements, but that has been shooting up and is now closer to 35% than 30%, after previously being close to 25% early in the college season.
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Jerry Lucas wrote:REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Newell I'm warming up to a bit but I need more time to figure him out.
I'm not even trying to exaggerate here, Asa Newell basically has 0 red flags in his production right now. Some might point to his low AST% (7 per Torvik), but to me his low TO% in combination with his respectable USG% (22.4 per Torvik) offsets it, because his AST/TO ratio (0.9 per Torvik) is better than numerous past prospects who have hit in the draft with AST/TO ratios in the 0.5-0.8 range. IMO a completely undraftable AST/TO ratio is below 0.5 (Maluach and Ace Bailey territory).
His free throw rate was previously too low for his position and measurements, but that has been shooting up and is now closer to 35% than 30%, after previously being close to 25% early in the college season.
Newell is by no means a bad prospect, or even one that I’d consider busting. I think he’ll be good in the NBA.
I think the thing with him is how boring he is, so a lot of folks don’t notice him. In that regard, he’s a Raptor lol. He’s just solid and he’ll get the job done. He’s just not an exciting pick, which means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Jerry Lucas wrote:REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Newell I'm warming up to a bit but I need more time to figure him out.
I'm not even trying to exaggerate here, Asa Newell basically has 0 red flags in his production right now. Some might point to his low AST% (7 per Torvik), but to me his low TO% in combination with his respectable USG% (22.4 per Torvik) offsets it, because his AST/TO ratio (0.9 per Torvik) is better than numerous past prospects who have hit in the draft with AST/TO ratios in the 0.6-0.8 range. IMO a completely undraftable AST/TO ratio is at or below 0.5 (Maluach and Ace Bailey territory).
His free throw rate was previously too low for his position and measurements, but that has been shooting up and is now closer to 35% than 30%, after previously being close to 25% early in the college season.
My main concerns with him earlier in year were ftr, def reb and vanilla hc scoring. He has remedied one of them a bit and shown some flashes of moves that arent just touch shots at the rim using size.
His production the past couple of years has been odd. I would suppose the hope is that he turns into boston horford way down the line or something. Anyway he is growing on me.
Actually horford is a very bad comp. But perhaps in the role sense. Idk really, will really need to think hard about him.
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Jerry Lucas wrote:REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Newell I'm warming up to a bit but I need more time to figure him out.
I'm not even trying to exaggerate here, Asa Newell basically has 0 red flags in his production right now. Some might point to his low AST% (7 per Torvik), but to me his low TO% in combination with his respectable USG% (22.4 per Torvik) offsets it, because his AST/TO ratio (0.9 per Torvik) is better than numerous past prospects who have hit in the draft with AST/TO ratios in the 0.5-0.8 range. IMO a completely undraftable AST/TO ratio is below 0.5 (Maluach and Ace Bailey territory).
His free throw rate was previously too low for his position and measurements, but that has been shooting up and is now closer to 35% than 30%, after previously being close to 25% early in the college season.
Newell is by no means a bad prospect, or even one that I’d consider busting. I think he’ll be good in the NBA.
I think the thing with him is how boring he is, so a lot of folks don’t notice him. In that regard, he’s a Raptor lol. He’s just solid and he’ll get the job done. He’s just not an exciting pick, which means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Is Newell a legit 6'11? He looks like a solid player but maybe like a Poeltl or Sabonis thus outside of the top 10.
His 3 looks like smooth form and with 76.5% FT, possibly he could shoot over 35% from deep in the NBA. Maybe his ceiling is Chris Bosh? Maybe he's 1 year behind of what Bosh was like?
I guess with the Raptors development history with Bosh and Siakam, Newell has low bust potential. Safer pick than CMB or Queen due to size and athleticism.
I think Condon gets penalized for being a sophomore while Queen is sophomore aged and isn't. The comparison is both 6'11 Newell vs Condon. Newell looks smoother with movements and shot, while Condon's look more robotic but craftier. Condon has an A/T of over 2 (better than SG Jakucionus). From video it looks like Newell is a tad bit bouncier and likely longer wingspan.
If the Raptors are drafting outside of Flagg, VJ, Harper, Bailey, I'd be okay trading down to draft Asa Newell and another pick to take Condon or Fleming. Then with the 2nd pick taking one of the Ivisic's. Then you have so many young bigs with Chomche that they would likely hit on 3 of 5 of them.

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The more I see Podz' resurgence out of his short lived Soph slump the more excited I get about what VJ can bring to the table being cut from a similar cloth.
Lowkey Podz finished a t60 player in the NBA his rookie season according to certain advanced metrics. Guards who dish dimes, protect the ball, force turnovers and get second chance opps are studs. Then just how big of a stud will depend on how high they can get that TS% and I'm pretty optimistic with VJ.
Lowkey Podz finished a t60 player in the NBA his rookie season according to certain advanced metrics. Guards who dish dimes, protect the ball, force turnovers and get second chance opps are studs. Then just how big of a stud will depend on how high they can get that TS% and I'm pretty optimistic with VJ.
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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Jerry Lucas wrote:REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Newell I'm warming up to a bit but I need more time to figure him out.
I'm not even trying to exaggerate here, Asa Newell basically has 0 red flags in his production right now. Some might point to his low AST% (7 per Torvik), but to me his low TO% in combination with his respectable USG% (22.4 per Torvik) offsets it, because his AST/TO ratio (0.9 per Torvik) is better than numerous past prospects who have hit in the draft with AST/TO ratios in the 0.6-0.8 range. IMO a completely undraftable AST/TO ratio is at or below 0.5 (Maluach and Ace Bailey territory).
His free throw rate was previously too low for his position and measurements, but that has been shooting up and is now closer to 35% than 30%, after previously being close to 25% early in the college season.
My main concerns with him earlier in year were ftr, def reb and vanilla hc scoring. He has remedied one of them a bit and shown some flashes of moves that arent just touch shots at the rim using size.
His production the past couple of years has been odd. I would suppose the hope is that he turns into boston horford way down the line or something. Anyway he is growing on me.
Actually horford is a very bad comp. But perhaps in the role sense. Idk really, will really need to think hard about him.
I'm honestly not sure what to make of his low dREB%. On one hand it could definitely be seen as a concern, but on the other hand his oREB% is crazy high, which makes his total REB% look respectable.
My Masai/Bobby-type FRP Barttorvik queries: 4/4, zero misses
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