Luka AD trade thread Part II

[doogie_hauser]

I think it's just cute (if not hilarious) that Lakers fans think Luka will bring The Lakers a couple of rings by himself. He has 2 years left (max) of his peak (in his physical condition) before it starts going all downhill.

[HotRocks34]

[Ruma85]

I think it's just cute (if not hilarious) that Lakers fans think Luka will bring The Lakers a couple of rings by himself. He has 2 years left (max) of his peak (in his physical condition) before it starts going all downhill.

Is this the Celtic pride talking?

[HotRocks34]

[Ruma85]

Jazz have nothing to he ashamed of, they really couldn't close out the game today, on a side note they shouldn't be guarding as if he can shoot.

[doogie_hauser]

I think it's just cute (if not hilarious) that Lakers fans think Luka will bring The Lakers a couple of rings by himself. He has 2 years left (max) of his peak (in his physical condition) before it starts going all downhill.

Is this the Celtic pride talking?

Possibly, but let's be honest, Lebron treats his body like a temple (doesn't drink, eats all the right stuff, pays 1 million or so a year for physios etc)

Some Lakees fans naively think that Luka can still play at the highest level at 35, when I'd still be surprised if he is still in the NBA when he is 33.

Yes maybe the Celtic fan in me is partly talking, but I honesty believe as a Hoops fan that the Lakers window of opportunity to win a ring with Luka is as open/long as they think.

[Ruma85]

I think it's just cute (if not hilarious) that Lakers fans think Luka will bring The Lakers a couple of rings by himself. He has 2 years left (max) of his peak (in his physical condition) before it starts going all downhill.

Is this the Celtic pride talking?

Possibly, but let's be honest, Lebron treats his body like a temple (doesn't drink, eats all the right stuff, pays 1 million or so a year for physios etc)

Some Lakees fans naively think that Luka can still play at the highest level at 35, when I'd still be surprised if he is still in the NBA when he is 33.

Yes maybe the Celtic fan in me is partly talking, but I honesty believe as a Hoops fan that the Lakers window of opportunity to win a ring with Luka is as open/long as they think.

I will be honest to, Luka is a wonderkid ( football term for a generational talent ) he's favourite Player is Lebron, though I would say he has more of a killer mindset then Lebron's passive aggressive nature, If Lebron cannot work his Magic on Dončić then he will never live up to his potential, truthfully last years run took a lot out of him, then he played the qualifying for Olympics, then went into the season got injured on Christmas, I agree that Luka's stamina has to improve especially if you're on the spotlight stage, which he is now with the Lakers.

[Baz]

This entire situation feels so surreal it feels like it's part of some movie plot line. I feel like the Mavs situation is actually dwarfing the idea of Luka being on the Lakers.

No offense Mavs fans, but this is just.....bizarre.

The story is still playing out and it could get a hell of a lot worse. I HIGHLY doubt the owners have any interest in fixing the mess and winning back the fans. If anything they've shown the opposite. It spells Vegas.

Please explain more if you know more about this.

Recommend giving this a watch if you're interested. It's well worth the time. I explain below if you don't want to watch though

Watch on YouTube

https://youtu.be/BPK3TZce-3g?si=AXB_-ZPhj2Ki0b1n

The TLDR is that the Mavs owners bought the team with the intention of building casinos around Dallas. Texas constitution makes gambling illegal in the state but in the last few days legislators (helped by Mavericks owners funding them) have been pushing for a constitutional amendment. If this fails, like it did in 2023, the signs point to the end of the Mavericks as we know them, unless they try again in 2027 legislative period (texas legislature only comes together over 140 days every 2 years). It's probably just easier to move the team to Las Vegas, where the owners are based. Adam Silver has been talking about a team out of Vegas for a while and he has even spoken positively about gambling and the need for the NBA to embrace it. If a team is garbage and the fans actively hate the team, there is a good reason for the owners to request to move the team. Trading beloved sporting hero of Dallas, Luka Doncic, then treating your arena like it's North Korea, (ejecting fans who have any sign of anti owner and GM sentiment) - is a cracking way to start this venture. My theory is that they know their gambling in Texas hopes are slim, and they're setting up the Vegas move right now. Their lease with the arena is up in 2031. As far as Luka moving to the Lakers of all teams - that is where it becomes very convenient for Adam Silver, getting one of the top 3 superstars on the planet at just 25 years old on the Los Angeles Lakers. Mavericks GM Nico Harrison and Lakers GM Rob Pelinka both worked closely together for years in Kobe's circle and have a long standing friendship. Nico deciding not to shop Luka and keep the deal secret with Pelinka stinks of collusion. The Mavs owners have clearly shown they do not care about winning, meaning what they got back for Luka didn't matter, they just wanted him gone to either cut costs or piss the fans off.

The TLDR of the TLDR is that Mavericks fans are screwed.

[Ruma85]

The story is still playing out and it could get a hell of a lot worse. I HIGHLY doubt the owners have any interest in fixing the mess and winning back the fans. If anything they've shown the opposite. It spells Vegas.

Please explain more if you know more about this.

Recommend giving this a watch if you're interested. It's well worth the time. I explain below if you don't want to watch though

Watch on YouTube

https://youtu.be/BPK3TZce-3g?si=AXB_-ZPhj2Ki0b1n

The TLDR is that the Mavs owners bought the team with the intention of building casinos around Dallas. Texas constitution makes gambling illegal in the state but in the last few days legislators (helped by Mavericks owners funding them) have been pushing for a constitutional amendment. If this fails, like it did in 2023, the signs point to the end of the Mavericks as we know them, unless they try again in 2027 legislative period (texas legislature only comes together over 140 days every 2 years). It's probably just easier to move the team to Las Vegas, where the owners are based. Adam Silver has been talking about a team out of Vegas for a while and he has even spoken positively about gambling and the need for the NBA to embrace it. If a team is garbage and the fans actively hate the team, there is a good reason for the owners to request to move the team. Trading beloved sporting hero of Dallas, Luka Doncic, then treating your arena like it's North Korea, (ejecting fans who have any sign of anti owner and GM sentiment) - is a cracking way to start this venture. My theory is that they know their gambling in Texas hopes are slim, and they're setting up the Vegas move right now. Their lease with the arena is up in 2031. As far as Luka moving to the Lakers of all teams - that is where it becomes very convenient for Adam Silver, getting one of the top 3 superstars on the planet at just 25 years old on the Los Angeles Lakers. Mavericks GM Nico Harrison and Lakers GM Rob Pelinka both worked closely together for years in Kobe's circle and have a long standing friendship. Nico deciding not to shop Luka and keep the deal secret with Pelinka stinks of collusion. The Mavs owners have clearly shown they do not care about winning, meaning what they got back for Luka didn't matter, they just wanted him gone to either cut costs or piss the fans off.

The TLDR of the TLDR is that Mavericks fans are screwed.

Are you implying they will move to Vegas eventually?

[CobraCommander]

https://youtu.be/H9Tef5eZbxU?si=lXvn5PpSTEUT6C8E

This is just the owner being himself - it’s not Nico it’s the owner

[JujitsuFlip]

No Gafford for 6 weeks now? Oof

[Baz]

Please explain more if you know more about this.

Recommend giving this a watch if you're interested. It's well worth the time. I explain below if you don't want to watch though

Watch on YouTube

https://youtu.be/BPK3TZce-3g?si=AXB_-ZPhj2Ki0b1n

The TLDR is that the Mavs owners bought the team with the intention of building casinos around Dallas. Texas constitution makes gambling illegal in the state but in the last few days legislators (helped by Mavericks owners funding them) have been pushing for a constitutional amendment. If this fails, like it did in 2023, the signs point to the end of the Mavericks as we know them, unless they try again in 2027 legislative period (texas legislature only comes together over 140 days every 2 years). It's probably just easier to move the team to Las Vegas, where the owners are based. Adam Silver has been talking about a team out of Vegas for a while and he has even spoken positively about gambling and the need for the NBA to embrace it. If a team is garbage and the fans actively hate the team, there is a good reason for the owners to request to move the team. Trading beloved sporting hero of Dallas, Luka Doncic, then treating your arena like it's North Korea, (ejecting fans who have any sign of anti owner and GM sentiment) - is a cracking way to start this venture. My theory is that they know their gambling in Texas hopes are slim, and they're setting up the Vegas move right now. Their lease with the arena is up in 2031. As far as Luka moving to the Lakers of all teams - that is where it becomes very convenient for Adam Silver, getting one of the top 3 superstars on the planet at just 25 years old on the Los Angeles Lakers. Mavericks GM Nico Harrison and Lakers GM Rob Pelinka both worked closely together for years in Kobe's circle and have a long standing friendship. Nico deciding not to shop Luka and keep the deal secret with Pelinka stinks of collusion. The Mavs owners have clearly shown they do not care about winning, meaning what they got back for Luka didn't matter, they just wanted him gone to either cut costs or piss the fans off.

The TLDR of the TLDR is that Mavericks fans are screwed.

Are you implying they will move to Vegas eventually?

If they do not succeed in the constitutional amendment to change gambling laws in Texas, yes

[3toheadmelo]

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They basically added AD just to match the salaries

[3toheadmelo]

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They basically added AD just to match the salaries

He won’t make up for Luka’s value but it looks like he was being held back on the lakers. He has a lot of game.

[hauntedcomputer]

I bet LeBron gets some part ownership as well when it’s all said and done. That is going to not sit well with Luka. I think he’s seen the light and is part of why he can’t even play well.

LOL at thinking the Adelsons would bring in Lebron. The reality is they are trying to drive out Cuban.

A Vegas move seems like a lot of moving pieces having to fall into place, such as the other owners approving it. Seems it would be less messy for the league to just approve an expansion team there. Dallas is one of the largest markets and has a top 10 franchise value and ranks fifth in revenues. Not the kind of franchise that can really make a case for needing to move.

Surely it would be easier for the Adelsons to buy the Texas legislature. A gambling bill was just introduced yesterday. I think the Luka trade is unrelated. The simplest answer is Nico thought he was a genius and sold the Adelsons on the trade because the owners had no concept of basketball value and team-building and saw the instant savings on paper (although if they extend AD, he'll end up making almost as much as Luka would have.)

[gottamakeit]

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Love Max, Sad that Grimes was traded away

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[3toheadmelo]

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Love Max, Sad that Grimes was traded away

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I’m still upset the Knicks traded away Grimes. We should’ve kept him over deuce.

[TheGeneral99]

I think it's just cute (if not hilarious) that Lakers fans think Luka will bring The Lakers a couple of rings by himself. He has 2 years left (max) of his peak (in his physical condition) before it starts going all downhill.

This is a flat out incorrect assessment.

His game is not predicted on athleticism or explosiveness. Guys that start declining in their late 20s or early 30s are insanely athletic guys who never developed a high-level skillset to sustain their elite play like Amare, Rose, Baron Davis, Kemp, Griffin, Westbrook etc.

Similar to guys like Jokic, Nash, Bird, Magic, Kidd, Paul, Stockton etc. Doncic is a very high IQ player, his vision is exceptional, he is extremely skilled and is a 3 level scorer that has exceptional touch and can score from multiple angles, his post-up game is elite now, and he's enormously strong, routinely bullying guys in the paint. Despite not being a high jumper, he's a great rebounder because he knows where to be and has the strength to box out.

Doncic, if anything, is a pretty similar player to Harden, but he's taller, stronger, and more physical than Harden with a mid-range and post-up game that translates very well in the playoffs. At 35 years old, Harden, despite having conditioning issues himself, is still an all-star player.

Doncic will be dominant will into his 30s.

Moreover, his conditioning, while an issue, is something that can be corrected...you can't correct a guy with insane athleticism who gets older and starts to lose that fast-twitch muscle fiber advantage.

[Ruma85]

Recommend giving this a watch if you're interested. It's well worth the time. I explain below if you don't want to watch though

Watch on YouTube

https://youtu.be/BPK3TZce-3g?si=AXB_-ZPhj2Ki0b1n

The TLDR is that the Mavs owners bought the team with the intention of building casinos around Dallas. Texas constitution makes gambling illegal in the state but in the last few days legislators (helped by Mavericks owners funding them) have been pushing for a constitutional amendment. If this fails, like it did in 2023, the signs point to the end of the Mavericks as we know them, unless they try again in 2027 legislative period (texas legislature only comes together over 140 days every 2 years). It's probably just easier to move the team to Las Vegas, where the owners are based. Adam Silver has been talking about a team out of Vegas for a while and he has even spoken positively about gambling and the need for the NBA to embrace it. If a team is garbage and the fans actively hate the team, there is a good reason for the owners to request to move the team. Trading beloved sporting hero of Dallas, Luka Doncic, then treating your arena like it's North Korea, (ejecting fans who have any sign of anti owner and GM sentiment) - is a cracking way to start this venture. My theory is that they know their gambling in Texas hopes are slim, and they're setting up the Vegas move right now. Their lease with the arena is up in 2031. As far as Luka moving to the Lakers of all teams - that is where it becomes very convenient for Adam Silver, getting one of the top 3 superstars on the planet at just 25 years old on the Los Angeles Lakers. Mavericks GM Nico Harrison and Lakers GM Rob Pelinka both worked closely together for years in Kobe's circle and have a long standing friendship. Nico deciding not to shop Luka and keep the deal secret with Pelinka stinks of collusion. The Mavs owners have clearly shown they do not care about winning, meaning what they got back for Luka didn't matter, they just wanted him gone to either cut costs or piss the fans off.

The TLDR of the TLDR is that Mavericks fans are screwed.

Are you implying they will move to Vegas eventually?

If they do not succeed in the constitutional amendment to change gambling laws in Texas, yes

I seriously doubt it, since it's known Las Vegas, will most likely get a expansion team within the next 3 years at the minimum, even though the Dallas owners are worth over 30.b, feasible with business/money they would lose more than they would gain in the short term, & we haven't even begun, discussing legal paperwork procedures.