2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

[CazOnReal]

When is the earliest we can trade Ingram?

The ink is barely dry on his extension, good fu*king lord...

[KillaSham23]

For this team to compete I think IQ has to go. Like a rudy gay trade where we get some solid backups

[wegotthabeet]

RJ made a comment the other day after talking about BI.

He said playing in Toronto was special and it isn't about money for him. It was almost like he was putting it out there that he would sign fir less to stay in TO.

Can't find the clip unfortunately...so don't quote me exactly.

Been saying this since he got here. Poster’s are quick to throw him into hypothetical trades but he wants to be here in a way most don’t. That presents the opportunity to keep him at a discount.

[wegotthabeet]

I'm calling it, Shai will come as a FA in 2027

Been saying this for a while too. It wouldn’t surprise me. Especially after we land Flagg. Flagg + Barnes has a similar if not higher ceiling than Chet +Jalen.

[Rapsfan07]

I also think RJ is the one who will get the squeeze. Primarily due to his salary.

Fair enough but where around the league are you going to trade him?

I don't see any team around the league that would be interested except MAYBE ATL and that's a huge maybe considering that they have no assets and will probably moving off of Trae sometime within the next year or so.

Dallas is a decent fit now, they need another scorer on the perimeter.

Milwaukee I could see Kuzma and their 2031 first if Kuzma is an outright disaster, which is definitely on the table as a possibility.

Heat lost Jimmy, could use a scoring wing.

Nets might have extra money to burn.

Clippers O isn't great, Harden is aging and Kawhi is too and a scoring forward to play while Kawhi sits in the regular season makes sense.

Kings in a Demar 3-way trade if they just want to keep being competitive but get younger, or even Demar coming back and we give him the bench to run might not sound completely insane in a year.

Utah has zero 2s or 3s I like right now, and maybe they draft a PG this draft and still have zero.

Portland roster is chaotic, maybe Grant goes out in a 3-way trade and they get younger at that forward spot.

If the Celtics move off of a big payroll guy, maybe a 3 way trade.

I don't know how much value RJ has, but you can get to almost 10 teams where it's plausible, if you assume roster changes this summer, injuries and since 2/3rds of the teams aren't on the list, you can probably add a couple and there's less to drop off the list. Who thought Dallas could really use a decent wing like RJ now, he might close games for them at the 3 to help Kyrie and AD, I'm not sure PJ will work there or Klay has a ton of time left. Also Kyrie might leave and they're desperate for some scoring and ballhandling.

Dallas doesn't have anything I would accept in exchange for a 24 year old SG putting up the numbers Barrett is
I'd rather have Barrett than Kuzma and FRP 6 years from now
Heat already have Wiggins, Herro, Jaquez and Robinson on the wings. Barrett is better than all of them except Herro
Clips don't have the value/contracts to trade for Barrett except Powell who is 7 years older
Not dealing Barrett for an older DeRozan so he can...run the bench?
Utah is actually a somewhat viable destination but unless you want some combo of Clarkson, Collins and Sexton then no.
Portland is also a no go. Don't want Grant's toxic deal and they'll want to give minutes to Sharpe and Avdija
Only big money Celts that we should be interested in is Brown or Tatum. Porzingis is almost 30 and injury prone, everyone else is too old.

[NotMyKawhi]

I'm calling it, Shai will come as a FA in 2027

Been saying this for a while too. It wouldn’t surprise me. Especially after we land Flagg. Flagg + Barnes has a similar if not higher ceiling than Chet +Jalen.

He will sign the big max after winning mvp. Dumb, not to do it. His team is stacked. Only gonna get better. 2 lottery picks. Not going any where.


Giannis on the other hand, if they get knocked out in the 1st round again, come back w a worse team, older, does he sign this summer? If not, do the bucks trade him at the draft. Get our top 5 pick, we give a future pick to the pelicans for bucks 2026. Give them IQ, RJ, top 5 pick, ochai, future picks.

Good start to the rebuild for the bucks to have a top 5 pick this year and favs for Peterson, Aj or boozer

Scottie, Dick, BI, Giannis, poeltl
Shead, jakobe, battle, mogbo, boucher, chomche, Blazers pick. Mid level. Way under the tax now and will be good for a while.

[MoneyBall]

When is the earliest we can trade Ingram?

The ink is barely dry on his extension, good fu*king lord...

Tongue in cheeck. Lighten up my friend.

[youngRAPZ]

RJ made a comment the other day after talking about BI.

He said playing in Toronto was special and it isn't about money for him. It was almost like he was putting it out there that he would sign fir less to stay in TO.

Can't find the clip unfortunately...so don't quote me exactly.

Like Brunson did with the Knicks? It's not unprecedented!

lol Rowan Barrett Sr. Our new director of player personnel highest paid in the league.


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[AHCanada]

I'm calling it, Shai will come as a FA in 2027

Been saying this for a while too. It wouldn’t surprise me. Especially after we land Flagg. Flagg + Barnes has a similar if not higher ceiling than Chet +Jalen.

He will sign the big max after winning mvp. Dumb, not to do it. His team is stacked. Only gonna get better. 2 lottery picks. Not going any where.


Giannis on the other hand, if they get knocked out in the 1st round again, come back w a worse team, older, does he sign this summer? If not, do the bucks trade him at the draft. Get our top 5 pick, we give a future pick to the pelicans for bucks 2026. Give them IQ, RJ, top 5 pick, ochai, future picks.

Good start to the rebuild for the bucks to have a top 5 pick this year and favs for Peterson, Aj or boozer

Scottie, Dick, BI, Giannis, poeltl
Shead, jakobe, battle, mogbo, boucher, chomche, Blazers pick. Mid level. Way under the tax now and will be good for a while.

I also think this is becoming a real possibility with Giannis. A lot will also depend on where our pick lands. I don't see us giving up Flagg, but outside of landing the top pick I could see it traded to fit the "compete in the next couple years" timeline. I'm not sure a pick outside of Flagg really pushes us into that time frame.

[Sticks]

I'm calling it, Shai will come as a FA in 2027

Been saying this for a while too. It wouldn’t surprise me. Especially after we land Flagg. Flagg + Barnes has a similar if not higher ceiling than Chet +Jalen.

He will sign the big max after winning mvp. Dumb, not to do it. His team is stacked. Only gonna get better. 2 lottery picks. Not going any where.


Giannis on the other hand, if they get knocked out in the 1st round again, come back w a worse team, older, does he sign this summer? If not, do the bucks trade him at the draft. Get our top 5 pick, we give a future pick to the pelicans for bucks 2026. Give them IQ, RJ, top 5 pick, ochai, future picks.

Good start to the rebuild for the bucks to have a top 5 pick this year and favs for Peterson, Aj or boozer

Scottie, Dick, BI, Giannis, poeltl
Shead, jakobe, battle, mogbo, boucher, chomche, Blazers pick. Mid level. Way under the tax now and will be good for a while.

Terrible spacing.

Need to see significant 3 pnt % improvements from dick, scottie, and ingram for this to work

[Rapsfan07]

I'm calling it, Shai will come as a FA in 2027

Been saying this for a while too. It wouldn’t surprise me. Especially after we land Flagg. Flagg + Barnes has a similar if not higher ceiling than Chet +Jalen.

He will sign the big max after winning mvp. Dumb, not to do it. His team is stacked. Only gonna get better. 2 lottery picks. Not going any where.


Giannis on the other hand, if they get knocked out in the 1st round again, come back w a worse team, older, does he sign this summer? If not, do the bucks trade him at the draft. Get our top 5 pick, we give a future pick to the pelicans for bucks 2026. Give them IQ, RJ, top 5 pick, ochai, future picks.

Good start to the rebuild for the bucks to have a top 5 pick this year and favs for Peterson, Aj or boozer

Scottie, Dick, BI, Giannis, poeltl
Shead, jakobe, battle, mogbo, boucher, chomche, Blazers pick. Mid level. Way under the tax now and will be good for a while.

I'd argue this deal gives away a lot of our future and makes us worst.

Not enough shooting in that SL and bench players are young and unproven with the exception of Boucher.

I like GIannis a lot but unless you have shooters, you're gonna be way too easy to guard come the post season.

[StopitLeo]

Been saying this for a while too. It wouldn’t surprise me. Especially after we land Flagg. Flagg + Barnes has a similar if not higher ceiling than Chet +Jalen.

He will sign the big max after winning mvp. Dumb, not to do it. His team is stacked. Only gonna get better. 2 lottery picks. Not going any where.


Giannis on the other hand, if they get knocked out in the 1st round again, come back w a worse team, older, does he sign this summer? If not, do the bucks trade him at the draft. Get our top 5 pick, we give a future pick to the pelicans for bucks 2026. Give them IQ, RJ, top 5 pick, ochai, future picks.

Good start to the rebuild for the bucks to have a top 5 pick this year and favs for Peterson, Aj or boozer

Scottie, Dick, BI, Giannis, poeltl
Shead, jakobe, battle, mogbo, boucher, chomche, Blazers pick. Mid level. Way under the tax now and will be good for a while.

Terrible spacing.

Need to see significant 3 pnt % improvements from dick, scottie, and ingram for this to work

Definitely true about Scotty and Gradey. Ingram is a pretty good 3 point shooter though; he shot over 37% in 4 of 6 years with the Pelicans and shot 39% in two of those seasons.

[Psubs]

I'm calling it, Shai will come as a FA in 2027

Been saying this for a while too. It wouldn’t surprise me. Especially after we land Flagg. Flagg + Barnes has a similar if not higher ceiling than Chet +Jalen.

He will sign the big max after winning mvp. Dumb, not to do it. His team is stacked. Only gonna get better. 2 lottery picks. Not going any where.


Giannis on the other hand, if they get knocked out in the 1st round again, come back w a worse team, older, does he sign this summer? If not, do the bucks trade him at the draft. Get our top 5 pick, we give a future pick to the pelicans for bucks 2026. Give them IQ, RJ, top 5 pick, ochai, future picks.

Good start to the rebuild for the bucks to have a top 5 pick this year and favs for Peterson, Aj or boozer

Scottie, Dick, BI, Giannis, poeltl
Shead, jakobe, battle, mogbo, boucher, chomche, Blazers pick. Mid level. Way under the tax now and will be good for a while.

If we don't get #1 Flagg, I'd trade it for Giannis.

Poeltl, Dick, Barrett, 2025 1st pick, 2027 1st pick and 2029 1st pick
For
Giannis

Sign Luke Kornet to the MLE and draft Braden Smith with the 2nd pick.

PG IQ - Shead/Smith
SG Jakobe - Ochai
SF Ingram - Mogbo/Battle
PF Barnes - Giannis - Mogbo
C Giannis - Kornet - Chomche

[Ell Curry]

You want Kuzma and a '31 first (6 years from now)?
Why?

Don't we want a 24 yr old slashing two guard that's clearly developing his play making?

You'd rather have a 29 yr old back up forward getting paid $3m less?

Just illogical.

These aren't really things I'd want, more deals I could see. But cutting 7M in payroll and getting a first (depends entirely on protections obviously) from a Bucks team either post-Giannis or with a 36 year old Giannis and certainly post-Lillard, that's a serious pick.

I'm still gonna be a fan in 2031. Waiting doesn't really bother me. And even if the hope is to nail this year's first and be really good as early as the 2028 playoffs with that guy in his 3rd season, a 2031 1st is a normal pick to ship out in a trade to upgrade that team, we've already seen 2027 picks dealt for De'Aaron Fox, PJ Washington and a ton in multi-pick deals.

Kuzma I think would hurt this team and our young guys, I'm extremely not a fan, but I think he'd be somewhere else anyways and it would be a 3-way, I really do not see our front office wanting him around, and someone will need a wing, they always do. Dallas wanted him last year and Milwaukee wanted him this year.

[billy_hoyle]

You want Kuzma and a '31 first (6 years from now)?
Why?

Don't we want a 24 yr old slashing two guard that's clearly developing his play making?

You'd rather have a 29 yr old back up forward getting paid $3m less?

Just illogical.

These aren't really things I'd want, more deals I could see. But cutting 7M in payroll and getting a first (depends entirely on protections obviously) from a Bucks team either post-Giannis or with a 36 year old Giannis and certainly post-Lillard, that's a serious pick.

I'm still gonna be a fan in 2031. Waiting doesn't really bother me. And even if the hope is to nail this year's first and be really good as early as the 2028 playoffs with that guy in his 3rd season, a 2031 1st is a normal pick to ship out in a trade to upgrade that team, we've already seen 2027 picks dealt for De'Aaron Fox, PJ Washington and a ton in multi-pick deals.

Kuzma I think would hurt this team and our young guys, I'm extremely not a fan, but I think he'd be somewhere else anyways and it would be a 3-way, I really do not see our front office wanting him around, and someone will need a wing, they always do. Dallas wanted him last year and Milwaukee wanted him this year.

Oh ok. You are just postulating on reasonable deals.

Kicking the can down the road (i.e. trading RJ for a downstream 1st) isn't a terrible idea. I guess I just don't think it's a particularly valuable thing. It's kind of a high variance act, where it could be basically useless in 5 years (a mid-20's pick).

[Ell Curry]

Oh ok. You are just postulating on reasonable deals.

Kicking the can down the road (i.e. trading RJ for a downstream 1st) isn't a terrible idea. I guess I just don't think it's a particularly valuable thing. It's kind of a high variance act, where it could be basically useless in 5 years (a mid-20's pick).

It could be a late first, or it could be the Tatum or Brown to the Celtics steal that sets you up to have a contender for a decade. You gotta beat 30 teams, that's damn near impossible to do without a top 10 player. We don't have one. Any unprotected picks in 6 years that aren't from OKC are a potential goldmine and really the only way to trade for a top 5 pick, apart from I guess Barnes becoming a top 20 player and asking out and some good team ending up with a top 5 pick to send to us.

I guess the RJ options are:

1 - Keep him, start Agbaji or Walter (if he blows up) or Grady if he's looking like a 45% 3pt shooter I guess (but he's probably better off as a bench shooter, certainly next year) to get some 3+D skills in the lineup, which already has 4 guys getting over 15 a game to handle scoring. Set RJ up to win 6th man of the year and pray we find a good backup 5 in the draft (either pick) or Mogbo or Chomche or for the minimum. If we don't pick a center with that first rounder, you're probably talking about hoping some sort of Mogbo-Barnes-Ingram-Agbaji-Walter type lineup that can have enough length and activity to compensate for no real center and lots of Barnes and Mogbo passing in the halfcourt and running. I don't know if I see it, but it's conceivable it works if Mogbo and Walter improve.

Big bonus here is if Ingram misses his usual 25-30 games, might not kill us with RJ there to step in.

2- Keep him, start him and hope the Quickley-Barrett-Ingram-Barnes-Poeltl lineup having 5 fairly skilled guys can beat teams with passing and mismatches after switches and somehow getting enough 3s from I guess Ingram shooting more of them, RJ and Barnes hitting more of them, and being good on defence via size alone basically. I have massive doubts about this one.

3 - Trade him for a meh backup 5 and some future draft capital, or for a late first in this draft if some team like Brooklyn doesn't want 4 rookies out there next year (they did keep Cam Johnson and Claxton and they have ready made 6th man in Cam Thomas, so adding a top 10 pick and RJ in the starting lineup and a 5th starter via cap space isn't crazy) and then draft a backup 5.

Pray Ingram is healthy. Draft a perimeter guy who is either the 5th starter, probably at SG (Harper, Edgecombe, Flagg playing the 3 and Ingram sliding down to the 2) or a higher usage guy with Agbaji starting or an improved Grady or Walter winning the job. Eventually the backup 5 is probably in an aggressive trade unless we go back to tanking when this team never crosses the 45 win mark.

[CazOnReal]

When is the earliest we can trade Ingram?

The ink is barely dry on his extension, good fu*king lord...

Tongue in cheeck. Lighten up my friend.

Your "tongue in cheek" joke is indistinguishable from the hundreds of other trade posts.

[hyper316]

Been saying this for a while too. It wouldn’t surprise me. Especially after we land Flagg. Flagg + Barnes has a similar if not higher ceiling than Chet +Jalen.

He will sign the big max after winning mvp. Dumb, not to do it. His team is stacked. Only gonna get better. 2 lottery picks. Not going any where.


Giannis on the other hand, if they get knocked out in the 1st round again, come back w a worse team, older, does he sign this summer? If not, do the bucks trade him at the draft. Get our top 5 pick, we give a future pick to the pelicans for bucks 2026. Give them IQ, RJ, top 5 pick, ochai, future picks.

Good start to the rebuild for the bucks to have a top 5 pick this year and favs for Peterson, Aj or boozer

Scottie, Dick, BI, Giannis, poeltl
Shead, jakobe, battle, mogbo, boucher, chomche, Blazers pick. Mid level. Way under the tax now and will be good for a while.

If we don't get #1 Flagg, I'd trade it for Giannis.

Poeltl, Dick, Barrett, 2025 1st pick, 2027 1st pick and 2029 1st pick
For
Giannis

Sign Luke Kornet to the MLE and draft Braden Smith with the 2nd pick.

PG IQ - Shead/Smith
SG Jakobe - Ochai
SF Ingram - Mogbo/Battle
PF Barnes - Giannis - Mogbo
C Giannis - Kornet - Chomche

I don't think Scottie and Giannis can co-exist. Both poor 3pt shooters. Likes to handle the ball starting beyond 3pt line, no post game

[Kingsway_fan]

He will sign the big max after winning mvp. Dumb, not to do it. His team is stacked. Only gonna get better. 2 lottery picks. Not going any where.


Giannis on the other hand, if they get knocked out in the 1st round again, come back w a worse team, older, does he sign this summer? If not, do the bucks trade him at the draft. Get our top 5 pick, we give a future pick to the pelicans for bucks 2026. Give them IQ, RJ, top 5 pick, ochai, future picks.

Good start to the rebuild for the bucks to have a top 5 pick this year and favs for Peterson, Aj or boozer

Scottie, Dick, BI, Giannis, poeltl
Shead, jakobe, battle, mogbo, boucher, chomche, Blazers pick. Mid level. Way under the tax now and will be good for a while.

If we don't get #1 Flagg, I'd trade it for Giannis.

Poeltl, Dick, Barrett, 2025 1st pick, 2027 1st pick and 2029 1st pick
For
Giannis

Sign Luke Kornet to the MLE and draft Braden Smith with the 2nd pick.

PG IQ - Shead/Smith
SG Jakobe - Ochai
SF Ingram - Mogbo/Battle
PF Barnes - Giannis - Mogbo
C Giannis - Kornet - Chomche

I don't think Scottie and Giannis can co-exist. Both poor 3pt shooters. Likes to handle the ball starting beyond 3pt line, no post game

Keep Yak and Barett, and our 2025 1st, have Scottie going out ?

TORONTO :
Yak
GIANNIS
INGRAM
RJ
IQ

[NotMyKawhi]

If we don't get #1 Flagg, I'd trade it for Giannis.

Poeltl, Dick, Barrett, 2025 1st pick, 2027 1st pick and 2029 1st pick
For
Giannis

Sign Luke Kornet to the MLE and draft Braden Smith with the 2nd pick.

PG IQ - Shead/Smith
SG Jakobe - Ochai
SF Ingram - Mogbo/Battle
PF Barnes - Giannis - Mogbo
C Giannis - Kornet - Chomche

I don't think Scottie and Giannis can co-exist. Both poor 3pt shooters. Likes to handle the ball starting beyond 3pt line, no post game

Keep Yak and Barett, and our 2025 1st, have Scottie going out ?

TORONTO :
Yak
GIANNIS
INGRAM
RJ
IQ

giannis, old dame and bums work, but Scottie, Dick, Bi, Giannis, poeltl wont work...