2025 OFFSEASON

[Big J]

Why would anyone want to work with Rodgers at this point? Dude is a cancer.

He still has a great arm, and can make all the throws. You just have to protect him well.

So in other words, you haven't watched any games that involved our O-line this past season.

Purdy causes a lot of the pressure issues running around and hanging onto the ball too long. At least Rodgers gets rid of it quickly.

[Samurai]

He still has a great arm, and can make all the throws. You just have to protect him well.

So in other words, you haven't watched any games that involved our O-line this past season.

Purdy causes a lot of the pressure issues running around and hanging onto the ball too long. At least Rodgers gets rid of it quickly.

At least your excuses never surprise me. Don't forget the Purdy is the primary cause of our special teams problems and lack of pass rush as well.

[Pattersonca65]

So in other words, you haven't watched any games that involved our O-line this past season.

Purdy causes a lot of the pressure issues running around and hanging onto the ball too long. At least Rodgers gets rid of it quickly.

At least your excuses never surprise me. Don't forget the Purdy is the primary cause of our special teams problems and lack of pass rush as well.

This guy makes crap up as he goes along. He just pulls this crap out of his rear end.

[Samurai]

Purdy causes a lot of the pressure issues running around and hanging onto the ball too long. At least Rodgers gets rid of it quickly.

At least your excuses never surprise me. Don't forget the Purdy is the primary cause of our special teams problems and lack of pass rush as well.

This guy makes crap up as he goes along. He just pulls this crap out of his rear end.

Of course, but he is very consistent at maintaining his agenda no matter how far he has to move the goal posts or shatter his own credibility to do it. Just wish guys like Jake Moody could be as consistent as Big J.....

[Dodub]

There’s a couple of guys from KU that I’d like to look at, they’re mid round guys who could develop into plus starters (like Puni).

Logan Brown - OT
Cobee Bryant -CB

Both should be 3rd or 4th rounders. Cobee would have been a 1st or 2nd rounder had he not came back for his senior year, he tanked his draft stock this year.

[Samurai]

There’s a couple of guys from KU that I’d like to look at, they’re mid round guys who could develop into plus starters (like Puni).

Logan Brown - OT
Cobee Bryant -CB

Both should be 3rd or 4th rounders. Cobee would have been a 1st or 2nd rounder had he not came back for his senior year, he tanked his draft stock this year.

Brown looks like someone sent over from central casting; ideal height, weight, length for an OT. Seems better as a run blocker than a pass blocker so Chris Foerster would have to do a lot of homework on him to determine if he could be developed.

Bryant has ball skills which is a great trait for a CB to have, but at 170 pounds I worry how he will get manhandled by bigger, more physical receivers and how well he could provide run support.

[wco81]

There’s a couple of guys from KU that I’d like to look at, they’re mid round guys who could develop into plus starters (like Puni).

Logan Brown - OT
Cobee Bryant -CB

Both should be 3rd or 4th rounders. Cobee would have been a 1st or 2nd rounder had he not came back for his senior year, he tanked his draft stock this year.

Brown looks like someone sent over from central casting; ideal height, weight, length for an OT. Seems better as a run blocker than a pass blocker so Chris Foerster would have to do a lot of homework on him to determine if he could be developed.

Bryant has ball skills which is a great trait for a CB to have, but at 170 pounds I worry how he will get manhandled by bigger, more physical receivers and how well he could provide run support.

Yeah I heard Travis Hunter is also lightweight for a CB, would potentially wear down in more physical games.

[Dodub]

There’s a couple of guys from KU that I’d like to look at, they’re mid round guys who could develop into plus starters (like Puni).

Logan Brown - OT
Cobee Bryant -CB

Both should be 3rd or 4th rounders. Cobee would have been a 1st or 2nd rounder had he not came back for his senior year, he tanked his draft stock this year.

Brown looks like someone sent over from central casting; ideal height, weight, length for an OT. Seems better as a run blocker than a pass blocker so Chris Foerster would have to do a lot of homework on him to determine if he could be developed.

Bryant has ball skills which is a great trait for a CB to have, but at 170 pounds I worry how he will get manhandled by bigger, more physical receivers and how well he could provide run support.

Brown needs some work as a pass blocker, but he would have some time to develop. He’s a former 5 star prospect with a ton of experience, he’s a fantastic athlete for his size. He’s a guy that could definitely be groomed to take over.

Bryant at time got bullied by bigger WR’s from time to time and there’s no way that I’m putting him on someone like DK, but I have no doubt that an NFL team will put some weight on him. He's got fantastic coverage skills in both man and zone.

[thesack12]

Personally, I'm kind of over O-Lineman that are better with run blocking than in pass protection. Seems like SF brings in way too many of those types of guys, and they rarely develop their pass protection to the level you would like to see.

I get that most of these prospects are flawed, and that obviously gets further amplified as you get deeper into the draft. All these guys are going to need to be coached up and developed.

That said, I would like to see some natural pass blocking talent brought in. That is the aspect of the OL that needs the most improvement and has been for quite awhile really.

[Pattersonca65]

Personally, I'm kind of over O-Lineman that are better with run blocking than in pass protection. Seems like SF brings in way too many of those types of guys, and they rarely develop their pass protection to the level you would like to see.

I get that most of these prospects are flawed, and that obviously gets further amplified as you get deeper into the draft. All these guys are going to need to be coached up and developed.

That said, I would like to see some natural pass blocking talent brought in. That is the aspect of the OL that needs the most improvement and has been for quite awhile really.

Puni was a good start but they need.more. Kyle prefers athletic lineman that can get out and block in space which follows his father's preference for simiar lineman even going back to Walsh who mostly had lighter lineman compared to the rest of the league. The problem today is these guys are getting beaten by big strong lineman in pass pro

[CrimsonCrew]

There’s a couple of guys from KU that I’d like to look at, they’re mid round guys who could develop into plus starters (like Puni).

Logan Brown - OT
Cobee Bryant -CB

Both should be 3rd or 4th rounders. Cobee would have been a 1st or 2nd rounder had he not came back for his senior year, he tanked his draft stock this year.

Bryant is undersized, isn't he? Weighs like 170? Or am I confusing him with someone else?

[Jikkle]

Personally, I'm kind of over O-Lineman that are better with run blocking than in pass protection. Seems like SF brings in way too many of those types of guys, and they rarely develop their pass protection to the level you would like to see.

I get that most of these prospects are flawed, and that obviously gets further amplified as you get deeper into the draft. All these guys are going to need to be coached up and developed.

That said, I would like to see some natural pass blocking talent brought in. That is the aspect of the OL that needs the most improvement and has been for quite awhile really.

Kyle is always going to have tunnel vision when it comes to the running game.

I can't ever see him starting a guy that's good in pass pro but poor with run blocking.

Best we can hope for are guys like Trent and Puni who do well in both.

[Jikkle]

Personally, I'm kind of over O-Lineman that are better with run blocking than in pass protection. Seems like SF brings in way too many of those types of guys, and they rarely develop their pass protection to the level you would like to see.

I get that most of these prospects are flawed, and that obviously gets further amplified as you get deeper into the draft. All these guys are going to need to be coached up and developed.

That said, I would like to see some natural pass blocking talent brought in. That is the aspect of the OL that needs the most improvement and has been for quite awhile really.

Puni was a good start but they need.more. Kyle prefers athletic lineman that can get out and block in space which follows his father's preference for simiar lineman even going back to Walsh who mostly had lighter lineman compared to the rest of the league. The problem today is these guys are getting beaten by big strong lineman in pass pro

It's not just in pass pro but in obvious short-yardage situations when running the ball. It's why 3rd and 1 which should be near automatic is about a 50-50 proposition for this offense.

It's also one big reason we struggle in the red zone because the more condensed the field the less effective all the 2nd level stuff gets and the more we need the offensive line to just line up and push people off the ball which maybe only Trent and Puni is capable of.

I'd say that's the one fatal flaw with this offense is Shanahan's scheme is heavily dependent on space to operate which is why it excels between the 20s and but starts the stall more and more the closer it gets to the end zone.

[Samurai]

Personally, I'm kind of over O-Lineman that are better with run blocking than in pass protection. Seems like SF brings in way too many of those types of guys, and they rarely develop their pass protection to the level you would like to see.

I get that most of these prospects are flawed, and that obviously gets further amplified as you get deeper into the draft. All these guys are going to need to be coached up and developed.

That said, I would like to see some natural pass blocking talent brought in. That is the aspect of the OL that needs the most improvement and has been for quite awhile really.

Puni was a good start but they need.more. Kyle prefers athletic lineman that can get out and block in space which follows his father's preference for simiar lineman even going back to Walsh who mostly had lighter lineman compared to the rest of the league. The problem today is these guys are getting beaten by big strong lineman in pass pro

It's not just in pass pro but in obvious short-yardage situations when running the ball. It's why 3rd and 1 which should be near automatic is about a 50-50 proposition for this offense.

It's also one big reason we struggle in the red zone because the more condensed the field the less effective all the 2nd level stuff gets and the more we need the offensive line to just line up and push people off the ball which maybe only Trent and Puni is capable of.

I'd say that's the one fatal flaw with this offense is Shanahan's scheme is heavily dependent on space to operate which is why it excels between the 20s and but starts the stall more and more the closer it gets to the end zone.

Just going off the eye test, I'd say that a QB sneak is probably our best bet at picking up 3rd and 1. It used to be just hand the ball off to a RB and have him follow Juice's lead block and we were pretty much assured of picking up the 3rd and 1. Nowadays Juice himself often doesn't get past the first down marker so following his lead block won't work. And I agree that our O-line's inability to physically dominate is a bigger reason for our ineffectiveness in the redzone than the shortcomings of our skill guys.

[thesack12]

Puni was a good start but they need.more. Kyle prefers athletic lineman that can get out and block in space which follows his father's preference for simiar lineman even going back to Walsh who mostly had lighter lineman compared to the rest of the league. The problem today is these guys are getting beaten by big strong lineman in pass pro

It's not just in pass pro but in obvious short-yardage situations when running the ball. It's why 3rd and 1 which should be near automatic is about a 50-50 proposition for this offense.

It's also one big reason we struggle in the red zone because the more condensed the field the less effective all the 2nd level stuff gets and the more we need the offensive line to just line up and push people off the ball which maybe only Trent and Puni is capable of.

I'd say that's the one fatal flaw with this offense is Shanahan's scheme is heavily dependent on space to operate which is why it excels between the 20s and but starts the stall more and more the closer it gets to the end zone.

Just going off the eye test, I'd say that a QB sneak is probably our best bet at picking up 3rd and 1. It used to be just hand the ball off to a RB and have him follow Juice's lead block and we were pretty much assured of picking up the 3rd and 1. Nowadays Juice himself often doesn't get past the first down marker so following his lead block won't work. And I agree that our O-line's inability to physically dominate is a bigger reason for our ineffectiveness in the redzone than the shortcomings of our skill guys.

Maybe my memory is spotty with in that regard, but seems like short yardage situations have been an issue for the entirety of Kyle's reign. Even during the Jimmy years, running Garoppolo on the sneak always seemed to be the most productive call in those situations. I can't recall the last time SF had a thumper at tailback for those short yardage situation. Granted as you and Jikkle have alluded to, the makeup/skillset/performance of the OL probably has a lot to do with that.

I do agree that Juice is basically washed these days, and the shaky OL is to blame for a lot of the redzone issues. This offense relies a lot on staying on schedule and utilizing play action. When the 1st down runs go nowhere (as was the case WAYYY too often last season) its puts the offense off schedule which directly leads to pure passing situations where A) The OL struggles mightily in B) the offense as a whole struggles with true drop back passing situations. Which is especially amplified in short field red zone situations where the receivers struggle to shake man coverage. To further compound the problem, the pass protection doesn't hold which doesn't allow the receivers and extra time to be able to get open.

[Pattersonca65]

It's not just in pass pro but in obvious short-yardage situations when running the ball. It's why 3rd and 1 which should be near automatic is about a 50-50 proposition for this offense.

It's also one big reason we struggle in the red zone because the more condensed the field the less effective all the 2nd level stuff gets and the more we need the offensive line to just line up and push people off the ball which maybe only Trent and Puni is capable of.

I'd say that's the one fatal flaw with this offense is Shanahan's scheme is heavily dependent on space to operate which is why it excels between the 20s and but starts the stall more and more the closer it gets to the end zone.

Just going off the eye test, I'd say that a QB sneak is probably our best bet at picking up 3rd and 1. It used to be just hand the ball off to a RB and have him follow Juice's lead block and we were pretty much assured of picking up the 3rd and 1. Nowadays Juice himself often doesn't get past the first down marker so following his lead block won't work. And I agree that our O-line's inability to physically dominate is a bigger reason for our ineffectiveness in the redzone than the shortcomings of our skill guys.

Maybe my memory is spotty with in that regard, but seems like short yardage situations have been an issue for the entirety of Kyle's reign. Even during the Jimmy years, running Garoppolo on the sneak always seemed to be the most productive call in those situations. I can't recall the last time SF had a thumper at tailback for those short yardage situation. Granted as you and Jikkle have alluded to, the makeup/skillset/performance of the OL probably has a lot to do with that.

I do agree that Juice is basically washed these days, and the shaky OL is to blame for a lot of the redzone issues. This offense relies a lot on staying on schedule and utilizing play action. When the 1st down runs go nowhere (as was the case WAYYY too often last season) its puts the offense off schedule which directly leads to pure passing situations where A) The OL struggles mightily in B) the offense as a whole struggles with true drop back passing situations. Which is especially amplified in short field red zone situations where the receivers struggle to shake man coverage. To further compound the problem, the pass protection doesn't hold which doesn't allow the receivers and extra time to be able to get open.

I guess one thing I missed about the Harbaugh era is the road graders the 49ers had on the oline.

[clyde21]

i miss everything about the Harbaugh era, our monster OL and our monster front 7. crazy that we let Baalke drive Harbaugh out and replace him with...drumroll...Tom **** sula.

[Pattersonca65]

i miss everything about the Harbaugh era, our monster OL and our monster front 7. crazy that we let Baalke drive Harbaugh out and replace him with...drumroll...Tom **** sula.

We still have his oline coach, lol

[Jikkle]

i miss everything about the Harbaugh era, our monster OL and our monster front 7. crazy that we let Baalke drive Harbaugh out and replace him with...drumroll...Tom **** sula.

What kinda drives me nuts is the couple of "what ifs"

Because what if Bowman never blew out his knee and what if Aldon Smith had his head on straight?

I mean could you imagine the starting front 7 for the 2019 defense being Bosa, Buckner, Armstead, Smith up front with a LB trio of Greenlaw, Warner, and Bowman?

Yeah Bowman and Smith would've been more towards the downside of their careers but Smith would've been something like 29 or 30 and Bowman would've been like 30 or 31 so both still would've had plenty of juice in the tank.

[Pattersonca65]

i miss everything about the Harbaugh era, our monster OL and our monster front 7. crazy that we let Baalke drive Harbaugh out and replace him with...drumroll...Tom **** sula.

What kinda drives me nuts is the couple of "what ifs"

Because what if Bowman never blew out his knee and what if Aldon Smith had his head on straight?

I mean could you imagine the starting front 7 for the 2019 defense being Bosa, Buckner, Armstead, Smith up front with a LB trio of Greenlaw, Warner, and Bowman?

Yeah Bowman and Smith would've been more towards the downside of their careers but Smith would've been something like 29 or 30 and Bowman would've been like 30 or 31 so both still would've had plenty of juice in the tank.

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Hard to.imagine that after a five year spell. Would those guys be still on such a bad team that would allow the 49ers to draft Bosa and Buckner that high in the draft and how would the team be able to keep all that talent together during the salary cap era if they all played at a high level?