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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1761 » by Snidely FC » Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:23 am

fatlever wrote:Just out of curiosity... what would your best and or most realistic lamelo trades for this summer look like. in this hypothetical scenario You are assistant GM to Peterson. Apparently the owners and Peterson have made the decision to move on and have asked you to come up with the best trade, either a win now move or a rebuilding move.

hypothetically? LaMelo to SA for Castle, Harrison Barnes, Julian Champagnie (add whatever draft picks people deem necessary on either side)

If the team thinks they're done with Melo I would like to see the team build around someone who is serious, and tough, and acts like a winner, and Castle seems to have those attributes.

Castle will never be the shooter Melo is but where Melo is a defensive liability Castle is a backcourt fortress, and as a small market team with free agency cache (alledgedly) less than Myrtle Beach I figure the team needs as many solid two-way players as possible

I don't think SA do this deal given Melo's injury history and fit issues with Wemby, Fox. But Castle, who was drafted at 4 to Melo's 2, wants to be a lead guard, he won't be in SA with Fox now there, and so maybe both sides would consider for that reason
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1762 » by luciano-davidwesley » Thu Feb 13, 2025 11:25 am

If we deal Melo for Brick Castle I'd need a long break from this team.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1763 » by Rich4114 » Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:03 pm

It won't matter to me because I can't do another 3-5 years of *this*

But if a lottery team got #2 and we got #1, then you could theoretically fast track a rebuild around Flagg + Harper but then you'd need to find salaries to match which would be impossible without the other team probably over-paying.

But let's say the Nets thought they could get Giannis and they got the second pick in this upcoming draft. LaMelo for #2, Cam Johnson and contract filler like Bogdanovic.

Harper
Miller
Miles
Flagg
Mark

NSJ
Cam Johnson (could easily start him over Miles)
Mann (maybe?)
Grant (if he's not broken forever)
Diabate

This is some far fetched **** though
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1764 » by HornetJail » Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:57 pm

I really don't think Melo is fetching a top 3 pick at this point with his injuries, and there's no way I'd trade him for less. We're stuck with him
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1765 » by Rich4114 » Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:26 pm

HornetJail wrote:I really don't think Melo is fetching a top 3 pick at this point with his injuries, and there's no way I'd trade him for less. We're stuck with him


I'm fine being stuck with him. I have seen enough Hornets games with him and without him to know he's a difference maker. We need to stop failing our one good player and just build a competitive roster around him. He's got elite playmaking abilities, can create his own shot, has an elite floater, can create 3pt shots, has top of the line 3pt range, rebounds and plays with pace. He's not perfect, he doesn't draw fouls, he isn't uber athletic with leaping ability and strength. But like, how much more do you want? If we traded him, we may be waiting another decade before we got a player as good.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1766 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:35 pm

The team to watch for Melo is Houston.

Green/Smith Jr is a nice package even without picks. Add a Harper to that group and we have something to build with.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1767 » by HornetJail » Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:43 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:The team to watch for Melo is Houston.

Green/Smith Jr is a nice package even without picks. Add a Harper to that group and we have something to build with.

hey babe, wake up... new Poole+Kuzma just dropped

I wouldn't take a Green+Jabari combo for expirings
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1768 » by HornetJail » Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:44 pm

Rich4114 wrote:
HornetJail wrote:I really don't think Melo is fetching a top 3 pick at this point with his injuries, and there's no way I'd trade him for less. We're stuck with him


I'm fine being stuck with him. I have seen enough Hornets games with him and without him to know he's a difference maker. We need to stop failing our one good player and just build a competitive roster around him. He's got elite playmaking abilities, can create his own shot, has an elite floater, can create 3pt shots, has top of the line 3pt range, rebounds and plays with pace. He's not perfect, he doesn't draw fouls, he isn't uber athletic with leaping ability and strength. But like, how much more do you want? If we traded him, we may be waiting another decade before we got a player as good.

I wasnt saying stuck in a bad way, just that there's no real upside to trading him at the moment unless you're looking at burning the whole thing down and starting over with an eye on the 2030s
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1769 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:46 pm

HornetJail wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:The team to watch for Melo is Houston.

Green/Smith Jr is a nice package even without picks. Add a Harper to that group and we have something to build with.

hey babe, wake up... new Poole+Kuzma just dropped

I wouldn't take a Green+Jabari combo for expirings

Nah not even close.

I'm just being realistic. It's kind of hard to find suitors for a injury prone supermax pg. I know people like to think it would be a huge market for LaMelo, but that just ain't happening.

What kind of deal you like for Melo?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1770 » by HornetJail » Fri Feb 14, 2025 7:52 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
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JustBuzzin wrote:The team to watch for Melo is Houston.

Green/Smith Jr is a nice package even without picks. Add a Harper to that group and we have something to build with.

hey babe, wake up... new Poole+Kuzma just dropped

I wouldn't take a Green+Jabari combo for expirings

Nah not even close.

I'm just being realistic. It's kind of hard to find suitors for a injury prone supermax pg. I know people like to think it would be a huge market for LaMelo, but that just ain't happening.

What kind of deal you like for Melo?

i think i was pretty clear. if you don't get a haul for him, you keep him.

Fine, I'll be more generous to Green and Smith and call them a future Terry Rozier+PJ Washington, but owed significantly more money than we paid them. That's a horrific package for anyone notable. It's not a package I'd take for free, or even our own mild negative contract role players.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1771 » by JustBuzzin » Sun Feb 16, 2025 3:47 am

LaMelo for Stephon Castle straight up I'm dead serious.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1772 » by Diop » Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:15 am

JustBuzzin wrote:LaMelo for Stephon Castle straight up I'm dead serious.

No thanks (and I like castle)
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1773 » by JustBuzzin » Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:20 am

Diop wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:LaMelo for Stephon Castle straight up I'm dead serious.

No thanks (and I like castle)

I was joking and San Antonio would never make that trade anyway and I love Castle.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1774 » by Astaluego » Sun Feb 16, 2025 11:50 am

Outsider here, I'm looking at them from afar as I'm a Miller fan... I think if they're willing to trade Lamelo..
Raptors (IQ or Barrett+Dicks or Agbaji)+ FRP25 (Range 3/6) or Jazz(2 of KGeorge/C.Williams/T Hendrix)+ Collins or Sexton salary would be the most likely destinations
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1775 » by Rich4114 » Sun Feb 16, 2025 3:06 pm

In the brief realgm exploration of "what if we" regarding LaMelo, the takes on here really help validate why it should never happen. Imagine having a dog **** roster and then taking your one productive player and trading him for guys like Immanual Quickley, ABaji, Cody Williams, Sexton, etc. Or Stephon Castle, who has shown a lot of promise but is still a major brick. That'll surely help turn things around.

Sometimes I think our own fans are committed to watching this team lose for as long as humanly possible. Punting to the 2030's after not making a playoff series since 2016... there'd be no reason to bother supporting this franchise anymore. We're already nearly at that point and to some long-time fans, beyond it.

I've been on this board a long time and have watched guys who I know were always positive, glass is half full even through very dark times finally turn cold as ice (rightfully so). I'm kind of right there with them. Ownership needs to recognize the history of this franchise, understand what they have in LaMelo and try to win with what you have for once. Our 23 year old PG is not carrying us to the playoffs by himself. Prime Steph Curry wouldn't do that. Put a competitive roster on the floor before you give up and tear down the only foundational piece that exists.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1776 » by JustBuzzin » Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:10 pm

Rich4114 wrote:In the brief realgm exploration of "what if we" regarding LaMelo, the takes on here really help validate why it should never happen. Imagine having a dog **** roster and then taking your one productive player and trading him for guys like Immanual Quickley, ABaji, Cody Williams, Sexton, etc. Or Stephon Castle, who has shown a lot of promise but is still a major brick. That'll surely help turn things around.

Sometimes I think our own fans are committed to watching this team lose for as long as humanly possible. Punting to the 2030's after not making a playoff series since 2016... there'd be no reason to bother supporting this franchise anymore. We're already nearly at that point and to some long-time fans, beyond it.

I've been on this board a long time and have watched guys who I know were always positive, glass is half full even through very dark times finally turn cold as ice (rightfully so). I'm kind of right there with them. Ownership needs to recognize the history of this franchise, understand what they have in LaMelo and try to win with what you have for once. Our 23 year old PG is not carrying us to the playoffs by himself. Prime Steph Curry wouldn't do that. Put a competitive roster on the floor before you give up and tear down the only foundational piece that exists.

I get your point, but acting like Melo isn't part of the problem is crazy. Are you sure he can even play 50 games let alone an entire season?

Those guys you named are at least healthy and reliable. Not saying we should make those trades, but the Castle trade is definitely one you would have to think about.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1777 » by JustBuzzin » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:16 am

If we get the #2 pick I think we have plenty of options we could use that in a major trade or we could just take Harper and move Melo to sg.

I like the idea of using Harper to get a Devin Booker if possible. I like Booker next to Melo than Harper.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1778 » by MasterIchiro » Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:25 am

JustBuzzin wrote:If we get the #2 pick I think we have plenty of options we could use that in a major trade or we could just take Harper and move Melo to sg.

I like the idea of using Harper to get a Devin Booker if possible. I like Booker next to Melo than Harper.


If we can add a player who can move LaMelo off ball, Melo will benefit from reduced wear-and-tear, maybe play more frequently, and possibly have a longer career.

If we select Harper, we won't be trading either player.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1779 » by Diop » Mon Feb 17, 2025 12:12 pm

Tanking is the wildcard for me as well. Is the team keeping players on the injury list for the “greater good”.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1780 » by JustBuzzin » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:15 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:If we get the #2 pick I think we have plenty of options we could use that in a major trade or we could just take Harper and move Melo to sg.

I like the idea of using Harper to get a Devin Booker if possible. I like Booker next to Melo than Harper.


If we can add a player who can move LaMelo off ball, Melo will benefit from reduced wear-and-tear, maybe play more frequently, and possibly have a longer career.

If we select Harper, we won't be trading either player.

Yeah I'm just saying it is a option.

Booker fits right in with Melo and Miller. It wouldn't be a question about the fit. I think Melo can play off ball, but it's something he would have to get use to.

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