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2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#501 » by Yallbecrazy » Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:00 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:I bet the raps board is

Cooper/Bailey tied
VJ
Malauch
Queen
Harper



lol, Flagg is way up on the board ahead of everyone else. Bailey was probably not near the top and is definitely nowhere near the top after trading for Ingram. I don't think they would be high on Malauch either. They like guys who generate extra possessions and passing should be high up to match Darko's system.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#502 » by mtcan » Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:12 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:
Son Goku 25 wrote:I bet the raps board is

Cooper/Bailey tied
VJ
Malauch
Queen
Harper



lol, Flagg is way up on the board ahead of everyone else. Bailey was probably not near the top and is definitely nowhere near the top after trading for Ingram. I don't think they would be high on Malauch either. They like guys who generate extra possessions and passing should be high up to match Darko's system.

It's BPA so they will take whoever regardless of fit. If Harper is BPA and we have #2...it's gonna be Harper.

I personally would want Ace with #2. Even if at best he's a BI clone...I think his shot creation with his length is just too tantalizing to pass up.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#503 » by Psubs » Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:21 pm

Trade #6 to Atlanta for #13 and #23.
Trade #13 and #39 to Orlando for #16 and #25.

#16,23,25...

#16 Rasheer Fleming
#23 Alex Condon
#25 Zvonimir Ivisic

Trade for Durant!!!

Barrett, Dick, Poeltl and 2027 1st pick

PG IQ - Shead - Jakobe
SG Ingram - Jakobe - Battle
SF Durant - Mogbo - Agbaji
PF Scottie - Fleming - Mobgo
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#504 » by Psubs » Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:23 pm

mtcan wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:
Son Goku 25 wrote:I bet the raps board is

Cooper/Bailey tied
VJ
Malauch
Queen
Harper



lol, Flagg is way up on the board ahead of everyone else. Bailey was probably not near the top and is definitely nowhere near the top after trading for Ingram. I don't think they would be high on Malauch either. They like guys who generate extra possessions and passing should be high up to match Darko's system.

It's BPA so they will take whoever regardless of fit. If Harper is BPA and we have #2...it's gonna be Harper.

I personally would want Ace with #2. Even if at best he's a BI clone...I think his shot creation with his length is just too tantalizing to pass up.


If they get #2 trade it for KD and #30.

#2, Poeltl, Dick, Agbaji, Barrett and 2027 1st pick for KD, Nik Richards and #30.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#505 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:41 pm

Tre Johnson has kinda been boosting his production in meaningful ways past little while. FTr >.300 now in Conf play. 3+ assists in past 7 games. Had more orbs last night than he had all season long which is sketch but at least a good sign, was following some misses.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#506 » by mtcan » Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:42 pm

Psubs wrote:
mtcan wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:

lol, Flagg is way up on the board ahead of everyone else. Bailey was probably not near the top and is definitely nowhere near the top after trading for Ingram. I don't think they would be high on Malauch either. They like guys who generate extra possessions and passing should be high up to match Darko's system.

It's BPA so they will take whoever regardless of fit. If Harper is BPA and we have #2...it's gonna be Harper.

I personally would want Ace with #2. Even if at best he's a BI clone...I think his shot creation with his length is just too tantalizing to pass up.


If they get #2 trade it for KD and #30.

#2, Poeltl, Dick, Agbaji, Barrett and 2027 1st pick for KD, Nik Richards and #30.

That would be a fireable offence. Webster gets the Nico treatment from the fanbase.
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Post#507 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:44 pm

Flagg's shooting splits are in such a nice spot compared to how he started the season. Preseason I predicted he would go 50/32/80 and he's at 49/38/82 so the extra juice behind the 3 ball and ft shot is sweet.

Mark Sears is totally cooked. If he had improved upon last season he could have been worth some kind of NBA look but last year was immaculate for him so that was always going to be difficult.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#508 » by mtcan » Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:44 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Tre Johnson has kinda been boosting his production in meaningful ways past little while. FTr >.300 now in Conf play. 3+ assists in past 7 games. Had more orbs last night than he had all season long which is sketch but at least a good sign, was following some misses.

He's definitely a bucket. Very dynamic scorer. He looks 6'4 at best...which is my concern but man can he score.
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Post#509 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:51 pm

mtcan wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Tre Johnson has kinda been boosting his production in meaningful ways past little while. FTr >.300 now in Conf play. 3+ assists in past 7 games. Had more orbs last night than he had all season long which is sketch but at least a good sign, was following some misses.

He's definitely a bucket. Very dynamic scorer. He looks 6'4 at best...which is my concern but man can he score.


2 level scorer, his rim volume is awful and doesn't have a lot of burst. He has no other choice than to become an absolutely elite shotmaker. Good won't cut it for him. I think he'll be 6'6 in shoes.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#510 » by mtcan » Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:02 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
mtcan wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Tre Johnson has kinda been boosting his production in meaningful ways past little while. FTr >.300 now in Conf play. 3+ assists in past 7 games. Had more orbs last night than he had all season long which is sketch but at least a good sign, was following some misses.

He's definitely a bucket. Very dynamic scorer. He looks 6'4 at best...which is my concern but man can he score.


2 level scorer, his rim volume is awful and doesn't have a lot of burst. He has no other choice than to become an absolutely elite shotmaker. Good won't cut it for him. I think he'll be 6'6 in shoes.

Ya...he plays definitely below the rim. Watched his highlights from yesterday when he ran a fast break and with all the time and space in the world...he barely made it to the basket for a layup instead of going all the way up and dunking it. I found that rather strange for a 19-20 year old with fresh legs.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#511 » by arbsn » Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:25 pm

Psubs wrote:
mtcan wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:

lol, Flagg is way up on the board ahead of everyone else. Bailey was probably not near the top and is definitely nowhere near the top after trading for Ingram. I don't think they would be high on Malauch either. They like guys who generate extra possessions and passing should be high up to match Darko's system.

It's BPA so they will take whoever regardless of fit. If Harper is BPA and we have #2...it's gonna be Harper.

I personally would want Ace with #2. Even if at best he's a BI clone...I think his shot creation with his length is just too tantalizing to pass up.


If they get #2 trade it for KD and #30.

#2, Poeltl, Dick, Agbaji, Barrett and 2027 1st pick for KD, Nik Richards and #30.



Are you really a Suns fan?

This might be the worst trade I have seen in my entire life
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#512 » by Psubs » Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:37 pm

arbsn wrote:
Psubs wrote:
mtcan wrote:It's BPA so they will take whoever regardless of fit. If Harper is BPA and we have #2...it's gonna be Harper.

I personally would want Ace with #2. Even if at best he's a BI clone...I think his shot creation with his length is just too tantalizing to pass up.


If they get #2 trade it for KD and #30.

#2, Poeltl, Dick, Agbaji, Barrett and 2027 1st pick for KD, Nik Richards and #30.



Are you really a Suns fan?

This might be the worst trade I have seen in my entire life


#2, Poeltl, Dick and Barrett for KD, Nik Richards and #30.

PG IQ - Shead/Jakobe
SG Ingram - Jakobe
SF Durant Agbaji - Battle
PF Scottie - Mogbo - #30
C Richards - #39 - Chomche
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#513 » by dozo » Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:41 pm

mtcan wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
mtcan wrote:He's definitely a bucket. Very dynamic scorer. He looks 6'4 at best...which is my concern but man can he score.


2 level scorer, his rim volume is awful and doesn't have a lot of burst. He has no other choice than to become an absolutely elite shotmaker. Good won't cut it for him. I think he'll be 6'6 in shoes.

Ya...he plays definitely below the rim. Watched his highlights from yesterday when he ran a fast break and with all the time and space in the world...he barely made it to the basket for a layup instead of going all the way up and dunking it. I found that rather strange for a 19-20 year old with fresh legs.


He's avg 37.25 minutes over the last four games. Dunking in game (especially in traffic) uses a lot of energy. 

I agree that he’s not the best athlete, which shows in his paint scoring and defense.

The 2/3 three-dribble pull-up is the toughest shot in basketball, and he’s elite at it. (footwork is also elite)

He will need to improve his scoring through contact and improve his defense to become an All-Star.
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Post#514 » by Yallbecrazy » Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:45 pm

Raptors used to value wingspan, stocks, and oRB% well above all else in their drafting in terms of quantitative metrics.

They still value those things a lot, but I think they've recently added shooting (free throw percentage) and assists/(A/TO) as big factors as well.

They often talk about mentality and work ethic as well so they value those too, but it's probably impossible for us as fans to determine who rates highly there.
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Post#515 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:00 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:Raptors used to value wingspan, stocks, and oRB% well above all else in their drafting in terms of quantitative metrics.

They still value those things a lot, but I think they've recently added shooting (free throw percentage) and assists/(A/TO) as big factors as well.

They often talk about mentality and work ethic as well so they value those too, but it's probably impossible for us as fans to determine who rates highly there.


it's very possible with the information that comes out about prospects. every player these days gets told exactly what to say to sell themselves to teams and you can often tell which players are boneheaded, it's reading up articles on their past and taking the word of college coaches who don't always glaze their guys that helps. it was well documented last year that jared mccain was an absolute animal in the gym yet people were concerned with the fact he makes tiktok videos. the kid was built like a **** tank and everyone around him knew he works harder than anyone they've ever seen.

a lot of that info comes out closer to draft time. i do like what i've seen and heard about carter bryant coming back from his tibia fracture. i don't know if there are many obsessive competitors. braden is a gym rat and huge student of the game which is part of the appeal for me. idk if a guy like derik queen is really a gym rat. there are a lot of guys i really dont know much about in terms of work ethic, essengue i have no clue on. i'm not even sure how much CMB puts into his game.

flagg obviously is a junkie, i think kon is too. not sure how hard maluach actually works.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#516 » by Dalek » Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:32 pm

The more I understand the type of person and player Carter Bryant is the more impressed I am.

Highly ranked high schooler who goes to Arizona and becomes a role player. He averages a block and steal and is big time athlete with the makings of a set jump shot and is a smart passer. Reminds me of Shawn Marion - his film pops.



Raps value high character, high IQ team first guys. This guy learned sign language to communicate with his grand parents and do deaf b-ball camps.

Even if his numbers aren't noteworthy he is a guy who can develop in the system much like JaKobe who also had an up and down college career.

https://www.kvoa.com/news/carter-bryants-journey-to-arizona-basketball/article_7cdd97a0-d2ea-11ef-8646-6be042d66469.html
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#517 » by earthtone » Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:54 pm

Dalek wrote:The more I understand the type of person and player Carter Bryant is the more impressed I am.

Highly ranked high schooler who goes to Arizona and becomes a role player. He averages a block and steal and is big time athlete with the makings of a set jump shot and is a smart passer. Reminds me of Shawn Marion - his film pops.



Raps value high character, high IQ team first guys. This guy learned sign language to communicate with his grand parents and do deaf b-ball camps.

Even if his numbers aren't noteworthy he is a guy who can develop in the system much like JaKobe who also had an up and down college career.

https://www.kvoa.com/news/carter-bryants-journey-to-arizona-basketball/article_7cdd97a0-d2ea-11ef-8646-6be042d66469.html

Yah I absolutely love Carter, he's made it up into my personal top 10 and I think there's a really good chance he's a lottery pick come June. I love the Shawn Marion shout, he also reminds me a lot of Trey Murphy for a more current comp.

His on-court play is what really pops, but I was surprised to find that he pops quite a bit statistically too. I thought being confined to the bench in Arizona would hamper his advanced stats, but he shines there too. This is every Freshman since '08 to put up a DBPM ≥ 5, and a OPBM ≥ 0, and their draft position that year (DnD for those who Did Not Declare after their freshman season):

    Anthony Davis [1st]
    Nerlens Noel [6th]
    Chet Holmgren [2nd]
    Karl-Anthony Towns [1st]
    Jaren Jackson Jr. [6th]
    Dereck Lively [10th]
    Joel Embiid [3rd]
    Flory Bidunga
    Cooper Flagg
    Zion Williamson [1st]
    Zach Collins [10th]
    Marcus Smart [6th]
    Tyler Tanner
    Isaiah Jackson [22nd]
    Myles Turner [11th]
    Mo Bamba [6th]
    Evan Mobley [3rd]
    Carter Bryant
    Tyreke Evans [4th]
    Tamin Lipsey [DnD]
    Aaron Craft [DnD]
    Jordan Bell [DnD]
    Mikal Bridges [DnD]
    Jaxson Hayes [8th]

There's more 1st overall picks than guys taken outside of the Top 10 on this list, if Carter maintains his play I think he ends up in the Top 10.

Bidunga is also a guy to keep an eye on IMO, his play has been even more inconsistent than Bryant's but he's an absolutely defensive menace anytime he steps on the court, and if Kansas has a good run from now through March, I think he's a solid late lottery/top 20 guy.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#518 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:36 pm

Heading into the final stretch of the season, which prospect are you guys gonna be paying extra attention to?

For me it's Tre Johnson. I'm still a lil skeptical about him, but last night he looked amazing.
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Post#519 » by ItsDanger » Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:59 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Heading into the final stretch of the season, which prospect are you guys gonna be paying extra attention to?

For me it's Tre Johnson. I'm still a lil skeptical about him, but last night he looked amazing.

Someone made a comparison in terms of style to Allan Houston. But he was a more polished shooter even in college.
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Post#520 » by dballislife » Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:30 pm

tre, kon, and mcneeley all have qualities i like but reading about their d and looking at their d stats and stocks and i quickly lose interest...mainly because im watching dick play very well but giving back so much of it on defense...their d looks worse than dicks in college or least just as bad

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