BoogieTime wrote:Mrakar wrote:bpcox05 wrote:***Trade occurs on/after the 2025 draft and I’m assuming the Kings 2025 1st conveys to ATL (only top 12 protected)***
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NOP GETS: Zach LaVine, DeMar DeRozan, Devin Carter, 2026 SAC 1st (Unprotected), 2027 SAC/SAS 1st (Unprotected - Most Favorable of SAC/SAS), 2027 SAC/SAS 1st Pick Swap (Least Favorable of SAC/SAS), 2028 SAC 1st (Unprotected), 2029 SAC 1st Pick Swap, 2030 SAC 1st (Unprotected), 2031 MIN/SAC/SAS 1st (Unprotected - 2nd Most Favorable of MIN/SAC/SAS), 2031 MIN/SAC/SAS 1st Pick Swap (Least Favorable of MIN/SAC/SAS), & 2032 SAC 1st (Unprotected)
NOP GIVES: Zion Williamson, Trey Murphy, Herb Jones, & Jose Alvarado
WHY FOR NOP? Considering the Pelicans have the 2nd worst record in the league, they move towards a hard reset and sell off their positive value/win now vets to set them up for the future by receiving a recent lottery pick (Devin Carter) and a war chest of picks (6 unprotected 1sts & 3 pick swaps). They’ll still have some win now vets left over like Murray, McCollum, LaVine, and DeRozan who they can look to move over time when teams become desperate enough to give up value for them or could be used as large expiring contracts over the coming years.
PG - Murray / Carter
SG - McCollum / Hawkins / Reeves
SF - LaVine
PF - DeRozan
C - Missi / Olynyk / Matkovic
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SAC GETS: Zion Williamson, Trey Murphy, Herb Jones, & Jose Alvarado
SAC GIVES: Zach LaVine, DeMar DeRozan, Devin Carter, 2026 SAC 1st (Unprotected), 2027 SAC/SAS 1st (Unprotected - Most Favorable of SAC/SAS), 2027 SAC/SAS 1st Pick Swap (Least Favorable of SAC/SAS), 2028 SAC 1st (Unprotected), 2029 SAC 1st Pick Swap, 2030 SAC 1st (Unprotected), 2031 MIN/SAC/SAS 1st (Unprotected - 2nd Most Favorable of MIN/SAC/SAS), 2031 MIN/SAC/SAS 1st Pick Swap (Least Favorable of MIN/SAC/SAS), & 2032 SAC 1st (Unprotected)
WHY FOR SAC? With Fox gone, the Kings are left without someone who has the potential to be a #1 option on a top shelf team. They take a chance on bringing Zion aboard to give them a player of that caliber that can hopefully be “the guy” on a top shelf team while also adding some much needed defense, shooting, length, and athleticism to complement the rest of the roster. Kings will be left with a scoring trio of Zion, Sabonis, & Monk with Murphy as a secondary scorer. Defensively, they have a lot of great defenders to utilize in Alvarado, Ellis, Jones, Murphy and Murray. Zion and Sabonis may not be the best fit in the frontcourt, but I could see it work offensively with Sabonis’ passing ability and improved shooting (.455 3P%). Also, if Zion does miss some time, the Kings still have both Murray and Ellis who could be inserted into the starting lineup to give them a formidable roster.
PG - Monk / Alvarado
SG - Jones / Ellis
SF - Murphy / Murray
PF - Zion
C - Sabonis / Valanciunas
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Pelicans are getting 4 1st rounders and 4 bad swaps since at least spurs will be good for next 10 years even if it doesnt work for Kings.
Trey Murphy is worth 2 really good or 3-4 bad firsts alone.
Herb is worth at least 1 good first rounder or couple bad ones considering he has one one the best contracts in the league
Jose Alvarado has to be worth late 1st rounder or 2-3 2nds.
Lavine, Derozan and Carter have 0 value here, i personaly think they are negative, but cant argue if you say they are neutral.
That leaves Zion Williamson. This basicly has him going to Sac for nothing. I would rather keep him on the roster and be good if he is healthy or be bad if he is not, then have Lavine and Derozan and be 10th seed for couple years...
Depending on which pick Pels get this year, i think we would be open to move Zion for right price(not great, but solid return), but trading both Herb and Trey is not an option unless its significant overpay.
Or they can be bad with him playing. Their record has been just as disgusting with him, In this latest back to back with the Kings I actually thought the Pels were better the game without him. And while being able to tank with him on the roster may be a positive to you, its not a selling point. Zach's efficiency has been tremendous for his scoring volume, which is why he was targeted, and is probably the more secure player one to one
Ofc they are loosing with him also right now since there is no point in winning. Guys like Karlo Matkovic are getting extra minutes just to be sure we lose as much games as possible. Injured players have recovery time at least 30% longer since there is no point to rush them. This season is not an example how pelicans play with Zion.
Zion without Ingram has been awesome, and i hoped we can see it this season. Sadly idiots traded for Murray who is same player as ingram just worse, and ofc injuries derailed everything...