What is the off-season plan? Atlanta Hawks

[Ball4life32]

SAS trades: 2027 ATL 1st, Keldon Johnson, Harrison Barnes, Malaki Branham
in: Kevin Durant
San Antonio still has lots of assets after this, but they are trading their best under the condition that ATL trades Young. However, this trade builds them an immediate contender of Fox/Castle/Vassell/Durant/Wembenyama - I think they are ready to start competing now and this deal sets them up to do so. Durant expires the next year and Wemby will still be on a rookie deal so they can try to sign another star player to compete long-term in the 2027 offseason.

PHX trades: Kevin Durant
in: Trae Young
Phoenix trades Durant for a younger, cheaper, less impactful star.

ATL trades: Trae Young
in: 2027 ATL 1st, Keldon Johnson, Harrison Barnes, Malaki Branham
Atlanta looks at their 2025 1st as a sunk cost (albeit they at least have Dyson Daniels out of this) and recoups their 2027 1st to lean into a rebuild with Daniels and Johnson as promising centerpieces. The 2026 draft looks incredible already, and 2027 also has some interesting prospects at the top.

Only one 1st for Trae? Hawks fans would riot if Landry gave up Trae that cheap. Not close at all for me to give up Atl's only all star in a while just entering his prime for that.

And yes, Trae wants to win, but he’s well aware that the Hawks have been plagued by injuries all season. Looking ahead, a fully healthy core of Daniels, Risacher (been playing well recently), Johnson, and Okongwu is more promising than some of the teams he’s been rumored to get moved to imo..... Trae at 26 yrs old is the oldest of those 5 as well.... just really really need Jalen Johnson to stay healthy.

[babyjax13]

SAS trades: 2027 ATL 1st, Keldon Johnson, Harrison Barnes, Malaki Branham
in: Kevin Durant
San Antonio still has lots of assets after this, but they are trading their best under the condition that ATL trades Young. However, this trade builds them an immediate contender of Fox/Castle/Vassell/Durant/Wembenyama - I think they are ready to start competing now and this deal sets them up to do so. Durant expires the next year and Wemby will still be on a rookie deal so they can try to sign another star player to compete long-term in the 2027 offseason.

PHX trades: Kevin Durant
in: Trae Young
Phoenix trades Durant for a younger, cheaper, less impactful star.

ATL trades: Trae Young
in: 2027 ATL 1st, Keldon Johnson, Harrison Barnes, Malaki Branham
Atlanta looks at their 2025 1st as a sunk cost (albeit they at least have Dyson Daniels out of this) and recoups their 2027 1st to lean into a rebuild with Daniels and Johnson as promising centerpieces. The 2026 draft looks incredible already, and 2027 also has some interesting prospects at the top.

Only one 1st for Trae? Hawks fans would riot if Landry gave up Trae that cheap. Not close at all for me to give up Atl's only all star in a while just entering his prime for that.

And yes, Trae wants to win, but he’s well aware that the Hawks have been plagued by injuries all season. Looking ahead, a fully healthy core of Daniels, Risacher (been playing well recently), Johnson, and Okongwu is more promising than some of the teams he’s been rumored to get moved to imo..... Trae at 26 yrs old is the oldest of those 5 as well.... just really really need Jalen Johnson to stay healthy.

Maybe Phoenix can include one of their firsts from Utah and San Antonio can kick in a small asset - but yah, I don't see the bidding going that high. It is a saturated position and we heard lots of rumors that Trae's value was lower than Murray's. Now, I think that's stupid, Trae is a much better player, but an unprotected pick from a bad team (which is what that pick would project to be) is very valuable. If Utah had it's own unprotected 2027 1st in the hands of another team I'd be open to trading Lauri for it, and I don't think Trae/Lauri have dissimilar value - albeit Trae's is probably a bit higher given his age.

[dms269]

It seems clear to me that Trae wants to be dealt.......

Explain?

We've seen several people say that he wants to win and likely isn't happy w/the current situation. It gives the same vibe as the year of Hayward to Boston rumors. So, the *to me* part is def. the operative section of that sentence and we will see if I am right

Please provide links to interviews where Trae has stated he is not happy with the current situation.

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[babyjax13]

Explain?

We've seen several people say that he wants to win and likely isn't happy w/the current situation. It gives the same vibe as the year of Hayward to Boston rumors. So, the *to me* part is def. the operative section of that sentence and we will see if I am right

Please provide links to interviews where Trae has stated he is not happy with the current situation.

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Please see the bolded.

[dms269]

SAS trades: 2027 ATL 1st, Keldon Johnson, Harrison Barnes, Malaki Branham
in: Kevin Durant
San Antonio still has lots of assets after this, but they are trading their best under the condition that ATL trades Young. However, this trade builds them an immediate contender of Fox/Castle/Vassell/Durant/Wembenyama - I think they are ready to start competing now and this deal sets them up to do so. Durant expires the next year and Wemby will still be on a rookie deal so they can try to sign another star player to compete long-term in the 2027 offseason.

PHX trades: Kevin Durant
in: Trae Young
Phoenix trades Durant for a younger, cheaper, less impactful star.

ATL trades: Trae Young
in: 2027 ATL 1st, Keldon Johnson, Harrison Barnes, Malaki Branham
Atlanta looks at their 2025 1st as a sunk cost (albeit they at least have Dyson Daniels out of this) and recoups their 2027 1st to lean into a rebuild with Daniels and Johnson as promising centerpieces. The 2026 draft looks incredible already, and 2027 also has some interesting prospects at the top.

The idea that Atlanta should trade Trae for a pick that is probably a late lotto 1st and take on a very expensive backup in Keldon goes against everything the Hawks have been doing in making wise financial designs and bringing in defensive players.

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[dms269]

We've seen several people say that he wants to win and likely isn't happy w/the current situation. It gives the same vibe as the year of Hayward to Boston rumors. So, the *to me* part is def. the operative section of that sentence and we will see if I am right

Please provide links to interviews where Trae has stated he is not happy with the current situation.

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Please see the bolded.

Like I stated, please provide links to these interviews. If you are going to make statements, you need to come with receipts.

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[Ball4life32]

SAS trades: 2027 ATL 1st, Keldon Johnson, Harrison Barnes, Malaki Branham
in: Kevin Durant
San Antonio still has lots of assets after this, but they are trading their best under the condition that ATL trades Young. However, this trade builds them an immediate contender of Fox/Castle/Vassell/Durant/Wembenyama - I think they are ready to start competing now and this deal sets them up to do so. Durant expires the next year and Wemby will still be on a rookie deal so they can try to sign another star player to compete long-term in the 2027 offseason.

PHX trades: Kevin Durant
in: Trae Young
Phoenix trades Durant for a younger, cheaper, less impactful star.

ATL trades: Trae Young
in: 2027 ATL 1st, Keldon Johnson, Harrison Barnes, Malaki Branham
Atlanta looks at their 2025 1st as a sunk cost (albeit they at least have Dyson Daniels out of this) and recoups their 2027 1st to lean into a rebuild with Daniels and Johnson as promising centerpieces. The 2026 draft looks incredible already, and 2027 also has some interesting prospects at the top.

Only one 1st for Trae? Hawks fans would riot if Landry gave up Trae that cheap. Not close at all for me to give up Atl's only all star in a while just entering his prime for that.

And yes, Trae wants to win, but he’s well aware that the Hawks have been plagued by injuries all season. Looking ahead, a fully healthy core of Daniels, Risacher (been playing well recently), Johnson, and Okongwu is more promising than some of the teams he’s been rumored to get moved to imo..... Trae at 26 yrs old is the oldest of those 5 as well.... just really really need Jalen Johnson to stay healthy.

Maybe Phoenix can include one of their firsts from Utah and San Antonio can kick in a small asset - but yah, I don't see the bidding going that high. It is a saturated position and we heard lots of rumors that Trae's value was lower than Murray's. Now, I think that's stupid, Trae is a much better player, but an unprotected pick from a bad team (which is what that pick would project to be) is very valuable. If Utah had it's own unprotected 2027 1st in the hands of another team I'd be open to trading Lauri for it, and I don't think Trae/Lauri have dissimilar value - albeit Trae's is probably a bit higher given his age.

Difference is too that Trae has led hawks to playoffs 3 of last 4 years and took them on a run in one them as a #1. But not 100% convinced that pick would be that good, say, if I guy like Kobe Bufkin could actually stay healthy to go along with those 4 I mentioned above. (yes the inj excuse but really feel like the hawks have constant injuries last cpl years) I just don't want to trade Trae for low value unless he absolutely demanded out which he has hasn't at this point. Hawks have a 2027 first as well via NO/Mil (worst of) at least.

[Geaux_Hawks]

SAS trades: 2027 ATL 1st, Keldon Johnson, Harrison Barnes, Malaki Branham
in: Kevin Durant
San Antonio still has lots of assets after this, but they are trading their best under the condition that ATL trades Young. However, this trade builds them an immediate contender of Fox/Castle/Vassell/Durant/Wembenyama - I think they are ready to start competing now and this deal sets them up to do so. Durant expires the next year and Wemby will still be on a rookie deal so they can try to sign another star player to compete long-term in the 2027 offseason.

PHX trades: Kevin Durant
in: Trae Young
Phoenix trades Durant for a younger, cheaper, less impactful star.

ATL trades: Trae Young
in: 2027 ATL 1st, Keldon Johnson, Harrison Barnes, Malaki Branham
Atlanta looks at their 2025 1st as a sunk cost (albeit they at least have Dyson Daniels out of this) and recoups their 2027 1st to lean into a rebuild with Daniels and Johnson as promising centerpieces. The 2026 draft looks incredible already, and 2027 also has some interesting prospects at the top.

Only one 1st for Trae? Hawks fans would riot if Landry gave up Trae that cheap. Not close at all for me to give up Atl's only all star in a while just entering his prime for that.

And yes, Trae wants to win, but he’s well aware that the Hawks have been plagued by injuries all season. Looking ahead, a fully healthy core of Daniels, Risacher (been playing well recently), Johnson, and Okongwu is more promising than some of the teams he’s been rumored to get moved to imo..... Trae at 26 yrs old is the oldest of those 5 as well.... just really really need Jalen Johnson to stay healthy.

Maybe Phoenix can include one of their firsts from Utah and San Antonio can kick in a small asset - but yah, I don't see the bidding going that high. It is a saturated position and we heard lots of rumors that Trae's value was lower than Murray's. Now, I think that's stupid, Trae is a much better player, but an unprotected pick from a bad team (which is what that pick would project to be) is very valuable. If Utah had it's own unprotected 2027 1st in the hands of another team I'd be open to trading Lauri for it, and I don't think Trae/Lauri have dissimilar value - albeit Trae's is probably a bit higher given his age.

Let's assume Trae really does want out. At minimum, any deal involving SA getting a "star" player, and us getting picks/prospects would at least have us getting all of our picks back and some. If that's not the case, I see no way Landry just pulls the trigger this off-season. If anything, it would be in the summer of '26 as a S&T extension, so Trae can sign his extension and go where he wants.

That said, Trae himself hasn't mentioned anything about leaving. He only says he wants to win, which is understandable. All the noise about him leaving is speculation from outsiders. I really don't see him asking out because he really enjoys being in the city of Atlanta. Will he ever place winning above being in Atlanta is yet to be determined. He very well may get to that point, but right now it's only about winning.

I still beg the question of where will he go now that SA has Fox and LAL has Luka? You even mention the market for PG's is saturated. Orlando maybe, but does he believe they will have the star power with Franz and Paolo? Does Orlando even sit and wait for Trae or go and find a PG now? Practically every other contending or playoff team has a PG already except for Phoenix. Maybe Giannis can pull some levers and look towards the future without Dame.

Never the less, I think Trae's smart enough to know that wherever he goes, he needs a team that can play defense around him. Atlanta's got the foundation for that with probably the best POA wing defender in the league, and some solid piece at other positions. Quin finally has a team that's fit for what he wants to do, and I truly believe that a healthy enough core and some internal growth will have us winning in '25-'26. Maybe not championship contender status, but at least in position to make some noise. Those things have to be on Trae's mind at least.

[babyjax13]

Please provide links to interviews where Trae has stated he is not happy with the current situation.

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Please see the bolded.

Like I stated, please provide links to these interviews. If you are going to make statements, you need to come with receipts.

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No, I don't, because I didn't say what you think I did.

[dms269]

Please see the bolded.

Like I stated, please provide links to these interviews. If you are going to make statements, you need to come with receipts.

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No, I don't, because I didn't say what you think I did.

So we can just make up statements without any truth behind them now and then refuse to support them when asked? How does that make any sense at all.

If you are going to make statements like you do, don't act shocked when people ask for the actual evidence.

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[babyjax13]

Like I stated, please provide links to these interviews. If you are going to make statements, you need to come with receipts.

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No, I don't, because I didn't say what you think I did.

So we can just make up statements without any truth behind them now and then refuse to support them when asked? How does that make any sense at all.

If you are going to make statements like you do, don't act shocked when people ask for the actual evidence.

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NEVER did I say he publicly requested a trade, so I'm not sure why you are asking for 'receipts' when the reporting is ... easily found on google? I didn't make anything up, if anything you are misreading what I said pretty severely.

Chris Haynes talked about him potentially wanting out this season, it was discussed repeatedly across a bunch of media platforms, other people speculated about it, etc. etc. At the end of last season Shams said the exact same thing, so this isn't new and often when there is a through-line it is for a reason. PLUS there was the podcast with Trae Young where he said:

"I think... it means what it means. Everybody knows that I want to be in Atlanta. When I was drafted here, I said that I wanted to spend my whole career here, but at the same time, I want to win. So like, if we are not on the same page at all and wanting to win right now, there are times that teams want to be slow with winning and a process but I am not there anymore, like I want to win and I have always been that way, I feel like I don't have very much time to waste. So, I just want to continue to play at a high level and I can do that and play at a high level and win"

I don't feel the need to go find a quote from Young because I never said that Young had explicitly asked for a trade, but if you want a quote suggesting when he might want one, there it is.

I said that it seemed clear *to me* that he wants out and that is based on the degree to which it has been speculated about b/c often that speculation is driven by players, teams, and agents. You are free to disagree, but to act like I'm pulling something out of the ether is honestly bizarre given how much it has been discussed. As a Jazz fan, I've seen this story over and over again

[Astaluego]

Only one 1st for Trae? Hawks fans would riot if Landry gave up Trae that cheap. Not close at all for me to give up Atl's only all star in a while just entering his prime for that.

And yes, Trae wants to win, but he’s well aware that the Hawks have been plagued by injuries all season. Looking ahead, a fully healthy core of Daniels, Risacher (been playing well recently), Johnson, and Okongwu is more promising than some of the teams he’s been rumored to get moved to imo..... Trae at 26 yrs old is the oldest of those 5 as well.... just really really need Jalen Johnson to stay healthy.

Maybe Phoenix can include one of their firsts from Utah and San Antonio can kick in a small asset - but yah, I don't see the bidding going that high. It is a saturated position and we heard lots of rumors that Trae's value was lower than Murray's. Now, I think that's stupid, Trae is a much better player, but an unprotected pick from a bad team (which is what that pick would project to be) is very valuable. If Utah had it's own unprotected 2027 1st in the hands of another team I'd be open to trading Lauri for it, and I don't think Trae/Lauri have dissimilar value - albeit Trae's is probably a bit higher given his age.

Let's assume Trae really does want out. At minimum, any deal involving SA getting a "star" player, and us getting picks/prospects would at least have us getting all of our picks back and some. If that's not the case, I see no way Landry just pulls the trigger this off-season. If anything, it would be in the summer of '26 as a S&T extension, so Trae can sign his extension and go where he wants.

That said, Trae himself hasn't mentioned anything about leaving. He only says he wants to win, which is understandable. All the noise about him leaving is speculation from outsiders. I really don't see him asking out because he really enjoys being in the city of Atlanta. Will he ever place winning above being in Atlanta is yet to be determined. He very well may get to that point, but right now it's only about winning.

I still beg the question of where will he go now that SA has Fox and LAL has Luka? You even mention the market for PG's is saturated. Orlando maybe, but does he believe they will have the star power with Franz and Paolo? Does Orlando even sit and wait for Trae or go and find a PG now? Practically every other contending or playoff team has a PG already except for Phoenix. Maybe Giannis can pull some levers and look towards the future without Dame.

Never the less, I think Trae's smart enough to know that wherever he goes, he needs a team that can play defense around him. Atlanta's got the foundation for that with probably the best POA wing defender in the league, and some solid piece at other positions. Quin finally has a team that's fit for what he wants to do, and I truly believe that a healthy enough core and some internal growth will have us winning in '25-'26. Maybe not championship contender status, but at least in position to make some noise. Those things have to be on Trae's mind at least.

I agree that it will be very difficult to find a better team than the Hawks that fits Trae Young so well that he would need to trade for him (personally, I don't think he fits with the Magic, with so many guys who need the ball)..
Going through all the teams...
With the Wolves? Do they have the assets? The Hawks would have to be very enamored with Dillingham..
Randle/Conley/Dillingham+Pistons FRP..with Randle a 3rd team for more assets, but who wants Randle? Is this a serious offer?

I really like his fit in NOP..although with all due respect it would be very strange if he demanded a trade to be sent to NOP..)

Maybe the Jazz could be interested if they get Flagg, but it doesn't make sense either, if what they want is to win now

[They_Them_Hatin]

Well they were one of the two teams that wanted Beal which was weird to me but they don’t have the contracts anymore to make it happen. Seems like they want to compete and not blow it up.

[Astaluego]

Randle/Conley/Dillingham/T.Shannon + FRP for T.Young..Who says no?

[Astaluego]

Trade..
HAWKS
In:M.Williams
Out: Bufkin+FRP27 (NOP/Bucks)/Future SRP

HORNETS
In:Ayton/FRP(By Hawks)
Out:Nurkic/M.Williams

BLAZERS
In: Nurkic /Bufkin/SRP
Out: Ayton

Draft..
KINGS FRP Get the best guard with size, at your range of choice..(Traore/Denim?)
LAKERS FRP..choose the best wing available

Trae/Draft/Krejci
Daniels/Mann/Mathews
Risacher/Levert/Draft
Johnson/Nance/Niang
Williams/OO