Which front office would you rather have running this team?

[Ballerkingn23]

Gar/pax would at least get draft picks back for quality talent.

Its like AK hates draft picks and rather just dump a player for a player and cap space. Otherwise they not too different imo.

Both don't know when to let go of players and both don't know how to build a competitive roster.

[CROBulls]

Gar/pax would at least get draft picks back for quality talent.

Its like AK hates draft picks and rather just dump a player for a player and cap space. Otherwise they not too different imo.

Both don't know when to let go of players and both don't know how to build a competitive roster.

AK hates picks because that means scouting all year and traveling to college games. And it's messing with his workout. His words.

[Am2626]

Who cares, both sucked.

There should be a third option for “Neither”

[SHO'NUFF]

Can't do it. Can't vote. Jumping off a bridge should have been an option.

[prolific passer]

I'll take Paxson from 2003-2009 back. Otherwise I'll stick with the current front office, begrudgingly. As bad as AKME are It doesn't seem they are anywhere close to the level of toxic that was the GarPax regime from 2011-2019.

Also post Jimmy they forgot how to draft and were lost on how to build a team in the new pace and space era. The success we had in that era was largely the work of Paxson 2003-2009.

I think most would take Paxson alone due to his draft strategy of drafting/signing rookies out of winning situations to help change the culture of the bulls. Only really bad move he did was trading out Aldridge for Tyrus in terms of that strategy.

I think it also depends if you think passing on future MVPs for "winning" players is something that your okay with because the "winning" players didn't bust.

Well he did draft a MVP.

[Michael Jackson]

also shout out to doug for being maybe the only person i can remember arguing that things could be worse during the twilight of the garpax administration

Yeah I always knew it could get worse. I was a big pax supporter but angry in the end because of being too complacent and letting Gar make some dumb moves but the guy wanted out so bad. Funny that the big worry was that Paxson would still be pulling the strings. The same sentiment can be about ownership too, a replacement in this market isn’t likely to be much better and could be worse. It will more than likely be VC or whitewashing oil money both which will have just as little connectivity to fans. Best case scenario is someone like Ishba but that has its own problems.

[Jcool0]

I think most would take Paxson alone due to his draft strategy of drafting/signing rookies out of winning situations to help change the culture of the bulls. Only really bad move he did was trading out Aldridge for Tyrus in terms of that strategy.

I think it also depends if you think passing on future MVPs for "winning" players is something that your okay with because the "winning" players didn't bust.

Well he did draft a MVP.

#1 overall in a draft Bulls had 1.7 percent chance to get it. So you cant even say he was trying to tank for Rose. I am more referring to taking WCJ over Collin Sexton, Mikal Bridges, SGA, Miles Bridges & MPJ. He went safe and passed on more talented players.

[prolific passer]

I think it also depends if you think passing on future MVPs for "winning" players is something that your okay with because the "winning" players didn't bust.

Well he did draft a MVP.

#1 overall in a draft Bulls had 1.7 percent chance to get it. So you cant even say he was trying to tank for Rose. I am more referring to taking WCJ over Collin Sexton, Mikal Bridges, SGA, Miles Bridges & MPJ. He went safe and passed on more talented players.

That's the garpax era who really has no plan when it came to drafting. I was talking about the Paxson era itself when he drafted Kirk, Gordon, Deng, Duhon, Noc, Noah, Aldridge(even though he didn't play for them), and Rose. All those guys had deep runs in NCAA tournament runs and a few won a title or 2 and one won a gold medal.

[jnrjr79]

Well he did draft a MVP.

#1 overall in a draft Bulls had 1.7 percent chance to get it. So you cant even say he was trying to tank for Rose. I am more referring to taking WCJ over Collin Sexton, Mikal Bridges, SGA, Miles Bridges & MPJ. He went safe and passed on more talented players.

That's the garpax era who really has no plan when it came to drafting. I was talking about the Paxson era itself when he drafted Kirk, Gordon, Deng, Duhon, Noc, Noah, Aldridge(even though he didn't play for them), and Rose. All those guys had deep runs in NCAA tournament runs and a few won a title or 2 and one won a gold medal.

I wouldn't credit Aldridge as a Paxson pick for the reason you note - he didn't play for the Bulls and was not drafted for them. The Bulls wanted Thomas.

[prolific passer]

#1 overall in a draft Bulls had 1.7 percent chance to get it. So you cant even say he was trying to tank for Rose. I am more referring to taking WCJ over Collin Sexton, Mikal Bridges, SGA, Miles Bridges & MPJ. He went safe and passed on more talented players.

That's the garpax era who really has no plan when it came to drafting. I was talking about the Paxson era itself when he drafted Kirk, Gordon, Deng, Duhon, Noc, Noah, Aldridge(even though he didn't play for them), and Rose. All those guys had deep runs in NCAA tournament runs and a few won a title or 2 and one won a gold medal.

I wouldn't credit Aldridge as a Paxson pick for the reason you note - he didn't play for the Bulls and was not drafted for them. The Bulls wanted Thomas.

Yeah. I know. Bulls made a blunder with that trade.

[Jcool0]

Well he did draft a MVP.

#1 overall in a draft Bulls had 1.7 percent chance to get it. So you cant even say he was trying to tank for Rose. I am more referring to taking WCJ over Collin Sexton, Mikal Bridges, SGA, Miles Bridges & MPJ. He went safe and passed on more talented players.

That's the garpax era who really has no plan when it came to drafting. I was talking about the Paxson era itself when he drafted Kirk, Gordon, Deng, Duhon, Noc, Noah, Aldridge(even though he didn't play for them), and Rose. All those guys had deep runs in NCAA tournament runs and a few won a title or 2 and one won a gold medal.

You can look at those years to. They took Ben Gordon at #3 and Deng at #7. You can make a case those teams are better with Devin Harris and Andre Iguodala. Probably should of taken Shaun Livingston at 3 since he had unlimited upside being almost 6'8" with guard skills only derailed by injury he might not have gotten on the Bulls.

[prolific passer]

#1 overall in a draft Bulls had 1.7 percent chance to get it. So you cant even say he was trying to tank for Rose. I am more referring to taking WCJ over Collin Sexton, Mikal Bridges, SGA, Miles Bridges & MPJ. He went safe and passed on more talented players.

That's the garpax era who really has no plan when it came to drafting. I was talking about the Paxson era itself when he drafted Kirk, Gordon, Deng, Duhon, Noc, Noah, Aldridge(even though he didn't play for them), and Rose. All those guys had deep runs in NCAA tournament runs and a few won a title or 2 and one won a gold medal.

You can look at those years to. They took Ben Gordon at #3 and Deng at #7. You can make a case those teams are better with Devin Harris and Andre Iguodala. Probably should of taken Shaun Livingston at 3 since he had unlimited upside being almost 6'8" with guard skills only derailed by injury he might not have gotten on the Bulls.

Hard to argue against Gordon and Deng. Bulls were trying to build like the Pistons. Kirk was Billups, Gordon was Rip, Deng was Prince, and Noc and Duhon were the Williamson and Hunter off the bench for them. They couldn't find their Sheed and Ben Wallace combo at the PF and C spots and their Larry brown type of coach to put it all together.

[Jcool0]

That's the garpax era who really has no plan when it came to drafting. I was talking about the Paxson era itself when he drafted Kirk, Gordon, Deng, Duhon, Noc, Noah, Aldridge(even though he didn't play for them), and Rose. All those guys had deep runs in NCAA tournament runs and a few won a title or 2 and one won a gold medal.

You can look at those years to. They took Ben Gordon at #3 and Deng at #7. You can make a case those teams are better with Devin Harris and Andre Iguodala. Probably should of taken Shaun Livingston at 3 since he had unlimited upside being almost 6'8" with guard skills only derailed by injury he might not have gotten on the Bulls.

Hard to argue against Gordon and Deng. Bulls were trying to build like the Pistons. Kirk was Billups, Gordon was Rip, Deng was Prince, and Noc and Duhon were the Williamson and Hunter off the bench for them. They couldn't find their Sheed and Ben Wallace combo at the PF and C spots and their Larry brown type of coach to put it all together.

Harris and Igudola were both the better versions of what the Bulls got. Also hard for Gordon to be Rip when he was a 6th man and 4" shorter.

[prolific passer]

You can look at those years to. They took Ben Gordon at #3 and Deng at #7. You can make a case those teams are better with Devin Harris and Andre Iguodala. Probably should of taken Shaun Livingston at 3 since he had unlimited upside being almost 6'8" with guard skills only derailed by injury he might not have gotten on the Bulls.

Hard to argue against Gordon and Deng. Bulls were trying to build like the Pistons. Kirk was Billups, Gordon was Rip, Deng was Prince, and Noc and Duhon were the Williamson and Hunter off the bench for them. They couldn't find their Sheed and Ben Wallace combo at the PF and C spots and their Larry brown type of coach to put it all together.

Harris and Igudola were both the better versions of what the Bulls got. Also hard for Gordon to be Rip when he was a 6th man and 4" shorter.

Sure Gordon was shorter than both Ray and Rip but they all went to UConn and had similar styles and Gordon was one of the most clutch players in the NBA during his time with bulls.

[Ballerkingn23]

Gar/pax would at least get draft picks back for quality talent.

Its like AK hates draft picks and rather just dump a player for a player and cap space. Otherwise they not too different imo.

Both don't know when to let go of players and both don't know how to build a competitive roster.

AK hates picks because that means scouting all year and traveling to college games. And it's messing with his workout. His words.