165bows wrote:ParticleMan wrote:bucknersrevenge wrote:
I'm still not sure what people don't like about this kid. We haven't even remotely seen enough of him in the NBA yet to really assess what he can and can't do. Meanwhile, there's nothing left for him to do in the G League. Time to bring him up after the G Leasgue season and keep him here from now on.
Turnovers, defense, shooting. Other than that Mrs. Lincoln...
Turnovers because he hogs the ball and is careless. Defense because he is 6-1 and not strong/quick by NBA standards. His scoring has improved, but he is still only a 33% 3pt shooter (and sub-30 for his career) whereas a guy his size needs to be around 40% like PP. Unfortunately those three things are high priority for getting minutes on a good team like the C's.
Worse yet, I'm not sure those aspects have improved in the last couple of years. This year is his lowest A/TO yet. And while he's only 22 I don't know that his ceiling is all that much higher.
Being a leading scorer is nice but it isn't such a flex -- usually high scorers are given a chance somewhere in the NBA so don't rack up G-league stats. We just don't have room/use for him.
He probably deserves to play in the NBA somewhere. Just not on a deep contending team. I'm pretty sure he's gone after this year.
I don't really get the size/strength/athleticism criticisms I see a lot (he measured reach/wingspan in the Christian Braun/Andrew Nembhard category at the combine) but I do have the same concern that it doesn't seem to translate into the defensive end performance from what I can see.
Regardless of how he measured, he looks a lot smaller than Braun and Nembhard. Still, it's not like he is 5'8. There are plenty of back up guards his size in the league. It's not a death knell for his NBA career.
The shooting has to be better but it's at least trending up, even if it's not going as fast as some would like. The percentage are also dragged down by the difficulty of the attempts, it's not like he can just afford to take wide open catch and shoot threes considering his usage.
The turnovers are a non issue. The only reason his raw totals are so high is because he has the ball in his hands all the time. Even in a "career low" year he has a 2.35 ast/to ratio (2.52 and 2.41 in his first two seasons so it looks fairly stable actually) which is perfectly fine. For reference, the average ast/to ratio in the NBA is 1.82 and just 1.53 in the G-League. It's exactly in line with guys like LeBron James (2.39), Donovan Mitchell (2.37), SGA (2.31) and Luka Doncic (2.29). Again, I'm not arguing he is that level of passer because the gap between doing something at the NBA level and the G-League level is gigantic but I really don't see how that's holding him back in any way.
The defense seems to be the most problematic part but he also hasn't been put in a context with the most structure with all his minutes coming in garbage time. Maybe he wouldn't look so lost if he played with guys that know the system instead of the revolving doors of deep bench teammates that just joined Boston.
The most likely outcome is that he never turns into an NBA rotation guy but he has shown enough in the G-League that it's far more likely it will happen for him than anybody picked in the back half of the second round this June. He has done more than enough to earn a real shot somewhere and if it's not with the Celtics (as it looks increasingly likely), I at least hope that Boston can recoup some kind of asset for a guy that I believe has shown more than a typical late second rounder.