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Re: Mark Williams Trade Rescending Potentially Being Challenged Pg.24 

Post#1561 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:47 am

JDR720 wrote:It's not about being traded. It's being traded, the team trading for him pulling out, and now he's stuck on a team that doesn't want him.

So he's probably thinking why should he play and risk injury for a team that doesn't want him.


Players do it all the time. Maybe not as severe as this instance but the Lakers didn’t want him either. Players know they are on the trading block every year and go out and play.
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Re: Mark Williams Trade Rescending Potentially Being Challenged Pg.24 

Post#1562 » by Chapelchilla » Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:48 am

Dude has hardly ever played as it is. He and only he can change the narrative that he is injury prone and not hungry to play. He has millions of reasons to do so. Hopefully he has that in him.
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Post#1563 » by HornetJail » Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:13 am

there's a thousand **** conclusions being made here from someone who basically hasn't said a god damn word lol
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Post#1564 » by Braggins » Wed Feb 19, 2025 5:42 am

Apparently he is supposed to play tomorrow. Hoping for a nice 30/15 game.
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Re: Marky Mark and the Funky Back: The Mark Williams Thread 

Post#1565 » by wilson115 » Wed Feb 19, 2025 12:18 pm

(Reposting old news but just a reminder:
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"The physical was not failed due to his back")
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Post#1566 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:04 pm

"Multiple issues" is where the Lakers damaged Mark's earnings potential as a restricted free agent, or as a trade asset for the Hornets.

This is Shams being used as a mouthpiece in place of official team statement. But the characterization carries the influence of an official statement from the Lakers. LA just hides behind popular media and floats an excuse off the record.

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Re: Mark Williams Trade Rescending Potentially Being Challenged Pg.24 

Post#1567 » by Chapelchilla » Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:18 pm

Melo and Williams probable! Let's Go Hornets
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Re: Mark Williams Trade Rescending Potentially Being Challenged Pg.24 

Post#1568 » by fatlever » Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:44 pm

"I didn't think I had failed my physical. That didn't even cross my mind. The night I got traded I played hella minutes. I didn't think in any world that was possible. Since I've been back at the start of the year, I've played games with a lot of minutes. I feel like every injury I've had has been well-documented and I've recovered, and been 100% since. So, I don't know what went into that decision. I think that's up to them."


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Re: Mark Williams Trade Rescending Potentially Being Challenged Pg.24 

Post#1569 » by yosemiteben » Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:50 pm

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"I didn't think I had failed my physical. That didn't even cross my mind. The night I got traded I played hella minutes. I didn't think in any world that was possible. Since I've been back at the start of the year, I've played games with a lot of minutes. I feel like every injury I've had has been well-documented and I've recovered, and been 100% since. So, I don't know what went into that decision. I think that's up to them."


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Re: Mark Williams Trade Rescending Potentially Being Challenged Pg.24 

Post#1570 » by fatlever » Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:52 pm

paywalled... any other interesting nuggets in mark's article?
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Re: Mark Williams Trade Rescending Potentially Being Challenged Pg.24 

Post#1571 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:56 pm

Looks like he's been smoking a ton of weed. There's no testing in the NBA, so it's fine. But is this PJ Washington all over again? I'm great. No, I'm slow. Great again. Slow again. Just chilling out today. Dominant this time. Next time slept in late.
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Re: Mark Williams Trade Rescending Potentially Being Challenged Pg.24 

Post#1572 » by yosemiteben » Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:57 pm

fatlever wrote:paywalled... any other interesting nuggets in mark's article?

Pro tip - if you use Firefox, just click reader view or press F9 and you'll see the text version of the article.

Williams’ presence bolsters a center rotation initially weakened with his temporary departure. Jusuf Nurkic, acquired from Phoenix on Feb. 6, didn’t make his debut until Charlotte’s final game before the All-Star break and had been pegged for a reserve role behind Moussa Diabate.

Diabate, who cashed in on a standard NBA contract following the trade deadline activity, was given the starting nod. But that all changes now with Williams in the fold again.

“I think each one of us brings something different,” Williams said. “I don’t see that as a negative thing. I just see it as another piece of the puzzle that we are able to have. So, I think it will be just good for us.”

Similar to the mentality Williams is now taking: letting his game do the talking.

“Yeah, I think the biggest thing for me is showing I’m healthy,” Williams said. “Like I said, I didn’t think there was a world (where) I’d fail a physical. So, I’m just excited to play.

“I get it’s a business, right? What I got traded for, picks, players … Like I said, it’s a business. Obviously, on their side, they thought I could have contributed to them winning going into the playoffs, whatever. And now I’m back here. I’m back with the guys, excited.”
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Re: Mark Williams Trade Rescending Potentially Being Challenged Pg.24 

Post#1573 » by yosemiteben » Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:29 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Looks like he's been smoking a ton of weed. There's no testing in the NBA, so it's fine. But is this PJ Washington all over again? I'm great. No, I'm slow. Great again. Slow again. Just chilling out today. Dominant this time. Next time slept in late.

I have no idea what you're talking about, is this just you making stuff up? When was PJ or Mark ever late for anything?

What possible connection does their play have to do with whether they use marijuana?
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Re: Mark Williams Trade Rescending Potentially Being Challenged Pg.24 

Post#1574 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:34 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:Looks like he's been smoking a ton of weed. There's no testing in the NBA, so it's fine. But is this PJ Washington all over again? I'm great. No, I'm slow. Great again. Slow again. Just chilling out today. Dominant this time. Next time slept in late.

I have no idea what you're talking about, is this just you making stuff up? When was PJ or Mark ever late for anything?

What possible connection does their play have to do with whether they use marijuana?


Smoking weed too close to a game results in the player playing high sometimes, which changes athletic performance as any stoner can attest. Sometimes the reaction speed is there - looks sharp. Others it looks like the game moves too fast. PJ had stretches where he looked like a completely different player. Mark has those dominant spurts that seem missing in the first half of games most of the time. Then the lackluster play subsides magically after halftime.
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Re: Mark Williams Trade Rescending Potentially Being Challenged Pg.24 

Post#1575 » by yosemiteben » Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:36 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:Looks like he's been smoking a ton of weed. There's no testing in the NBA, so it's fine. But is this PJ Washington all over again? I'm great. No, I'm slow. Great again. Slow again. Just chilling out today. Dominant this time. Next time slept in late.

I have no idea what you're talking about, is this just you making stuff up? When was PJ or Mark ever late for anything?

What possible connection does their play have to do with whether they use marijuana?


Smoking weed too close to a game results in the player playing high sometimes, which changes athletic performance as any stoner can attest. Sometimes the reaction speed is there - looks sharp. Others it looks like the game moves too fast. PJ had stretches where he looked like a completely different player. Mark has those dominant spurts that seem missing in the first half of games most of the time. Then the lackluster play subsides magically after halftime.

It is also possible that they are just inconsistent, no reason to assume that they are toking up right before games and that's the reason.

Seems bizarre to me to jump to the conclusion that they must be getting high right before games.
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Post#1576 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:43 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about, is this just you making stuff up? When was PJ or Mark ever late for anything?

What possible connection does their play have to do with whether they use marijuana?


Smoking weed too close to a game results in the player playing high sometimes, which changes athletic performance as any stoner can attest. Sometimes the reaction speed is there - looks sharp. Others it looks like the game moves too fast. PJ had stretches where he looked like a completely different player. Mark has those dominant spurts that seem missing in the first half of games most of the time. Then the lackluster play subsides magically after halftime.

It is also possible that they are just inconsistent, no reason to assume that they are toking up right before games and that's the reason.

Seems bizarre to me to jump to the conclusion that they must be getting high right before games.


Maybe Cannabis is bizarre to you, Nancy Reagan, but these players use it, and I totally disagree that it's bizarre to acknowledge it. It's bizarre to not acknowledge it.

Of course inconsistency can be blamed on other factors. But when inconsistency becomes consistent, you start to think about physiology.

Do you get high?
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Re: Mark Williams Trade Rescending Potentially Being Challenged Pg.24 

Post#1577 » by yosemiteben » Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:48 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
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Smoking weed too close to a game results in the player playing high sometimes, which changes athletic performance as any stoner can attest. Sometimes the reaction speed is there - looks sharp. Others it looks like the game moves too fast. PJ had stretches where he looked like a completely different player. Mark has those dominant spurts that seem missing in the first half of games most of the time. Then the lackluster play subsides magically after halftime.

It is also possible that they are just inconsistent, no reason to assume that they are toking up right before games and that's the reason.

Seems bizarre to me to jump to the conclusion that they must be getting high right before games.


Maybe Cannabis is bizarre to you, Nancy Reagan, but these players use it, and I totally disagree that it's bizarre to acknowledge it. It's bizarre to not acknowledge it.

Of course inconsistency can be blamed on other factors. But when inconsistency becomes consistent, you start to think about physiology.

Do you get high?

I'm very familiar with marijuana and its effects. I think it's ridiculous to start with marijuana use right before games as an explanation for on court play.

The only inconsistency with Mark has been observed this season, and is much more easily explained by the fact that he returned from a long term injury and is being unusually cautious at the outset of games and then adjusts to the physicality and pace of games as they go on.

Getting high right before games is just irresponsible.
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Re: Mark Williams Trade Rescending Potentially Being Challenged Pg.24 

Post#1578 » by SWedd523 » Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:52 pm

My kids behave inconsistently. One day they're great, the next they're really bad.

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Re: Mark Williams Trade Rescending Potentially Being Challenged Pg.24 

Post#1579 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:52 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:It is also possible that they are just inconsistent, no reason to assume that they are toking up right before games and that's the reason.

Seems bizarre to me to jump to the conclusion that they must be getting high right before games.


Maybe Cannabis is bizarre to you, Nancy Reagan, but these players use it, and I totally disagree that it's bizarre to acknowledge it. It's bizarre to not acknowledge it.

Of course inconsistency can be blamed on other factors. But when inconsistency becomes consistent, you start to think about physiology.

Do you get high?

I'm very familiar with marijuana and its effects. I think it's ridiculous to start with marijuana use right before games as an explanation for on court play.


What I hear here is you do not directly experience the effects of Cannabis, yet someone who does experience it directly has a bizarre theory about something foreign to you, while your indirect involvement makes you bona-fide non-bizarre, non-odd, non-weird, and totally hip to that whole factual perspective on reality.

Makes sense.

Totally impartial.
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Re: Mark Williams Trade Rescending Potentially Being Challenged Pg.24 

Post#1580 » by yosemiteben » Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:54 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
Maybe Cannabis is bizarre to you, Nancy Reagan, but these players use it, and I totally disagree that it's bizarre to acknowledge it. It's bizarre to not acknowledge it.

Of course inconsistency can be blamed on other factors. But when inconsistency becomes consistent, you start to think about physiology.

Do you get high?

I'm very familiar with marijuana and its effects. I think it's ridiculous to start with marijuana use right before games as an explanation for on court play.


What I hear here is you do not directly experience the effects of Cannabis

Then you suck at hearing, and your post is a good example of narrative building from poor assumptions.

I constantly post about how much I like jambands and how often I watch and attend jam oriented concerts. I am intimately acquainted with marijuana use.

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