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Recipe for the Future (if we do or don’t blow it up)

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Re: Recipe for the Future (if we do or don’t blow it up) 

Post#101 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:56 pm

They_Them_Hatin wrote:I think Beal will be more movable with 2 years left.
I don’t see the KD trade being worth while. I would try and move Beal first. They harassed the wrong GM in Florida for months. Should’ve been harassing Orlando’s GM instead. They keep drafting their replacements and have a lot of depth.

Beal for KCP+Cole+Goga or WCJ & Jett. Orlando needs a scorer, Suns need depth and a competent center. Plus they all expire at the same time. Orlando moves nothing of value if Ja becomes available and have picks 16 & 25 to replace their depth. Beal goes to a contender in a warm tax free state.

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PG Free agent/Cole
SG Booker/KCP/Grayson
SF Dunn/Royce/Jett
PF KD/ Bol Bol
C Goga or WCJ/Richards/Oso


Nurkic trade got us out the 2nd apron so we can combine contracts.

We've tried. We've probably spoken with every other GM in the league to try and reroute Beal somewhere else because Riley wasn't going to take him but nobody wants him. If he was any other expensive contract, it would be an easier sell because in a year or so time, you could move him as an expiring. But having a NTC greatly complicates things because not only would a team have to have the salary to make a deal work in the first place, he'll also need to allow the deal to go through for it to happen. It's also more than likely a team willing to take him on will be a team that isn't going to be very good so why would Beal want to go there.

I don't believe we'll be operating as a team under the 2nd apron. We likely will still need to reduce salary further.

lilfishi22 wrote:We don't need to buy out Martin or Micic because both are expiring/non-guaranteed which I fully expect we'll let them go for nothing. 2nd Apron line is expected to be at $207.8m at the start of the offseason and without Martin or Micic, we'll be sitting at around $202m. But we'll need to add 6-7 vet min guys at around $2.2m to meet the roster requirements so that alone is going to take us back over the 2nd apron.

In essence we will most likely continue to be a 2nd apron team, unless we move KD to a team that can absorb a chunk of his salary. Teams under the 1st apron can absorb up to 125% (+100k) of incoming salary. So if we moved KD, we could take back as little as $43m in salary or a net reduction of around $10m in salary. Obviously teams with cap space can take on more and give back less but I'd say most teams who want KD are probably operating well above the salary cap. Grayson and O'Neal are certainly candidates too.
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Re: Recipe for the Future (if we do or don’t blow it up) 

Post#102 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:56 pm

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I'm all for it. This was peak Book

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Re: Recipe for the Future (if we do or don’t blow it up) 

Post#103 » by bwgood77 » Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:15 am

Frank Lee wrote:Apparently, Second apron in 25/26 will be $207 mill…so we’ll be 12 mill over. To get under we have to wrap a pick around Martin, send him out for a second and cut Micic… but then we only have a few to trade and for who? This is assuming Wishbia keeps his cream team together. Not sure that makes sense. We can’t acquire a sign and traded player due to apron rules. And we will likely be above the second apron again after we fill out the roster. What a mess it still is. I keep saying it, I don’t think they will blow it up as these side moves with Micic Martin and the picks look like attempts to tinker. And frankly, Book deserves one more attempt. He is the most front office shttt on player in the league.

My bet is down on DLo as one addition… at least Book would be less grim.


We better not go after DLo unless he will sign for the minimum (though I guess that is all we have).
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Re: Recipe for the Future (if we do or don’t blow it up) 

Post#104 » by Fo-Real » Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:08 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
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I'm all for it. This was peak Book

Feels like they've gotten back together a half dozen times already. It's destiny, just be together already


Just an all-star break conquest. Time on his hands, chick to fill that, probably all it is.

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