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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Portis Suspended 25 Games 

Post#1581 » by JonHeist » Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:53 pm

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It’s already widely being reported that this isn’t a PED thing. Mixed up pain medications with very similar names.

Took me about 10 seconds to look up that it's been proven that Tramadol can be utilized as a performance enchanting drug, look like the cases/studies are primarily related to cycling though.


big pro cycling fan here

tramadol can arguably be performance-enhancing for extreme endurance efforts (aka every pro cycling race), the one notable case in cycling was Nairo Quintana and most fans think that that suspension was BS or at least should have been less severe

there is zero chance bobby was intentionally taking it as a PED, as it would not help at all in basketball

and as someone who has been prescribed it before (badly broken nose), it's also not fun enough to be a recreational drug unless you're like a desperate teenager with no access to anything else, it does do a good job of killing a headache tho

it being a genuine mistake is the only thing that makes sense
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Post#1582 » by Matches Malone » Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:06 pm

Gonna daydream about Tyler Smith getting minutes and turning into Bobby Portis lite for us.

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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Portis Suspended 25 Games 

Post#1583 » by rilamann » Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:08 pm

The first thing that comes to my mind Nobody on the Lakers or Celtics is getting suspended 25 games for tramadol.
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Post#1584 » by SupremeHustle » Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:13 pm

25 games is excessive. Especially if it was a mistake. Reminds me of a mix-up I had when my wife sent me to get weed killer and I came back with my cousin who loves marijuana.
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Post#1585 » by Badgerlander » Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:14 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Gonna daydream about Tyler Smith getting minutes and turning into Bobby Portis lite for us.

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Tyler Smith should be striving more towards the Kuzma skillset

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Post#1586 » by rilamann » Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:19 pm

If you think Bobby being suspend 25 games for tramadol is annoying now.

Just wait until Draymond Green gets suspended 3 games for assaulting someone for the 38th time.
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Post#1587 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:22 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:25 games is excessive. Especially if it was a mistake. Reminds me of a mix-up I had when my wife sent me to get weed killer and I came back with my cousin who loves marijuana.

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Post#1588 » by JEIS » Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:22 pm

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Matches Malone wrote:Gonna daydream about Tyler Smith getting minutes and turning into Bobby Portis lite for us.

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Tyler Smith should be striving more towards the Kuzma skillset

I don't think he has the speed or agility... He is more like John Henson with the willingness to attempt to play some defense.
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Post#1589 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:28 pm

Hoping Livingston gets some consistent run.
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Post#1590 » by Dick Tate » Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:29 pm

Sounds like he failed the test a while back. I wonder how long the team knew this was coming? Before the trade deadline would be my guess.
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Post#1591 » by tedbrogen » Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:29 pm

JEIS wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:Gonna daydream about Tyler Smith getting minutes and turning into Bobby Portis lite for us.

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Tyler Smith should be striving more towards the Kuzma skillset

I don't think he has the speed or agility... He is more like John Henson with the willingness to attempt to play some defense.


John Henson with a decent corner three and a motor would be an amazing first big off the bench in the modern NBA.
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Post#1592 » by Badgerlander » Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:30 pm

JEIS wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:Gonna daydream about Tyler Smith getting minutes and turning into Bobby Portis lite for us.

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Tyler Smith should be striving more towards the Kuzma skillset

I don't think he has the speed or agility... He is more like John Henson with the willingness to attempt to play some defense.


Kuzma lane agility 10.72 shuttle 2.98 sprint 3.25 stand vert 27” max 34”
Smith lane agility 10.74 shuttle 2.99 sprint 3.28 stand vert 32” max 38”
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Post#1593 » by tedbrogen » Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:31 pm

Dick Tate wrote:Sounds like he failed the test a while back. I wonder how long the team knew this was coming? Before the trade deadline would be my guess.


If they did, I’d assume they’d have to disclose that in trade talks and that would basically make his trade value zero because you’re trading for a guy to play like six regular season games. If that’s the case, can’t blame Horst for not trading him this time, although he should have in one of the prior offseasons.
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Post#1594 » by JayMKE » Thu Feb 20, 2025 8:19 pm

25 games for tramadol is insane
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Post#1595 » by fansinceforever » Thu Feb 20, 2025 8:22 pm

Kind of a crazy mistake to make considering how much he makes. Somebody he or the team hires should probably know exactly what he's ingesting and what's on the banned substance list.

But whatever, at least we'll get a chance to see what some young players can do with extended time.
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Post#1596 » by yb90 » Thu Feb 20, 2025 8:35 pm

It's a plausible situation to happen. It is what it is.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Portis Suspended 25 Games 

Post#1597 » by JonHeist » Thu Feb 20, 2025 8:41 pm

Badgerlander wrote:
JEIS wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:
Tyler Smith should be striving more towards the Kuzma skillset

I don't think he has the speed or agility... He is more like John Henson with the willingness to attempt to play some defense.


Kuzma lane agility 10.72 shuttle 2.98 sprint 3.25 stand vert 27” max 34”
Smith lane agility 10.74 shuttle 2.99 sprint 3.28 stand vert 32” max 38”


Henson's max vert was only 30" FWIW
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Portis Suspended 25 Games 

Post#1598 » by paulpressey25 » Thu Feb 20, 2025 8:41 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:Yeah popping a random painkiller that your assistant gives you is a crazy thing to do in his positon, if we're believing that story.


We're not believing that story. I'm not at least.
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Post#1599 » by Badgerlander » Thu Feb 20, 2025 8:48 pm

JonHeist wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:
JEIS wrote:I don't think he has the speed or agility... He is more like John Henson with the willingness to attempt to play some defense.


Kuzma lane agility 10.72 shuttle 2.98 sprint 3.25 stand vert 27” max 34”
Smith lane agility 10.74 shuttle 2.99 sprint 3.28 stand vert 32” max 38”


Henson's max vert was only 30" FWIW


Henson’s claim to fame was having the same draft measurements as AD
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Post#1600 » by paulpressey25 » Thu Feb 20, 2025 8:55 pm

Whether Tramadol is a significant help or not is sort of irrelevant. Bobby and his friend obviously thought it would help.

The International Testing Agency has a web page devoted to Tramadol.

https://ita.sport/news/tramadol-the-wada-2024-prohibited-list/

One question is whether this was detected in random testing or if the Chilean theft ring that ransacked his house took a bunch of pills from him also, and the pills were recovered and reported to authorities.
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