Official Bulls Tankathon 2025 Thread

[Dez]

They can't afford to waste any of Embiid, him not playing now isn't going to fix him later.

The sand is almost out from that hourglass.

What in the world are you talking about? How does not playing through a knee injury not help heal the knee? Was Lonzo supposed to just play through his 2y off?

Embiid's knee is on borrowed time, he's not Ball.

[Muzbar]

The Bulls need to drop to the 6th spot, IMO.

Assuming they don't move up, getting to choose between whomever is left from Tre Johnson, Kasparas Jakucionis & VJ Edgecombe would be a great way to start the rebuild (if that is what they're doing).

The Nets and Sixer are close by, it is possible.

[Dan Z]

The Bulls need to drop to the 6th spot, IMO.

Assuming they don't move up, getting to choose between whomever is left from Tre Johnson, Kasparas Jakucionis & VJ Edgecombe would be a great way to start the rebuild (if that is what they're doing).

The Nets and Sixer are close by, it is possible.

I haven't looked at all the top prospects, and a lot can change between now and the draft, but I'd like the Bulls to get Kasparas Jukucionis. If need be try to trade up.

KJ and Matas would be a good start to the rebuild.

[Muzbar]

The Bulls need to drop to the 6th spot, IMO.

Assuming they don't move up, getting to choose between whomever is left from Tre Johnson, Kasparas Jakucionis & VJ Edgecombe would be a great way to start the rebuild (if that is what they're doing).

The Nets and Sixer are close by, it is possible.

I haven't looked at all the top prospects, and a lot can change between now and the draft, but I'd like the Bulls to get Kasparas Jukucionis. If need be try to trade up.

KJ and Matas would be a good start to the rebuild.

I'm really starting to lean towards Tre Johnson, that guy can score!

My personal ranking of those 3 is Tre, VJ and then KJ.

[dougthonus]

Of the teams in our realm:

San Antonio - It's crazy to think they're only one game ahead of us in the win column, but outside of a wemby injury, it's hard to imagine they slip past us, they aren't incentivized IMO.

Portland - They're a game ahead of us, but they want their young guys to develop, so I think they'll still be trying to put wins on the board. If not, they've really hosed up recently gaining so many wins

Philly - 55% chance right now (slotted 6th) that they give their pick to another team. While I think it's a dim hope, I could totally see them fighting for the play-in, trying to win two games and giving up pick #14. They're 2 back in the win column on us. On the one hand, I think they'd be fine to swap places from us and will probably even aim for it, but on the other hand, they're so bad that they may not be able to anyway.

Brooklyn - They're clearly trying to tank but have somehow won 3 in a row. This wasn't even a discussion a week ago, but suddenly they're only 2 back in the win column. That said, their roster is still awful. I would guess they find a way to not gain those two gains on us.

Chicago - It hasn't been many games since the deadline, but the downgrade from LaVine to Huerter looks like one that will totally sink the ship. Vuc has quietly fallen off to last year's level of performance over the last 2 months where he's now shooting 27% from 3 and below 50% from the field. We're probably at true tank level talent right now, and it also feels like the majority of the roster has given up too.

Toronto - Will be interesting if Ingram plays at all this season, quick google search says he's out for at least a month which puts them in mid March. They got to be thinking just to sit him the rest of the way. Pretty hard to imagine we catch them. They're 5 games in the win column ahead of us.

To me, looks like our range is 6-10 to me. We've got two against Philly (crazy enough our final game of the year is against Philly, would be wild if that has meaning), and one against Brooklyn.

[kodo]

Last 10 games. Bulls are arguably the worst team in the league in the post-Lavine era.
Slightly worse than the Wizards. Debatable with NOP.

Spoiler:

[Chi town]

The Bulls need to drop to the 6th spot, IMO.

Assuming they don't move up, getting to choose between whomever is left from Tre Johnson, Kasparas Jakucionis & VJ Edgecombe would be a great way to start the rebuild (if that is what they're doing).

The Nets and Sixer are close by, it is possible.

I haven't looked at all the top prospects, and a lot can change between now and the draft, but I'd like the Bulls to get Kasparas Jukucionis. If need be try to trade up.

KJ and Matas would be a good start to the rebuild.

I'm really starting to lean towards Tre Johnson, that guy can score!

My personal ranking of those 3 is Tre, VJ and then KJ.

Outside the top 3 I fully agree. I like VJ KJ and Tre. All 3 have solid floors and strong ceilings.

[Bulliever2020]

Strength of schedule remaining. Great tank resource. Looks like we're about middle of the pack currently right about even with Brooklyn and Portland. But Toronto and Philly at least with 2 of the weakest schedules left.

https://www.tankathon.com/remaining_schedule_strength

[Muzbar]

Strength of schedule remaining. Great tank resource. Looks like we're about middle of the pack currently right about even with Brooklyn and Portland. But Toronto and Philly at least with 2 of the weakest schedules left.

https://www.tankathon.com/remaining_schedule_strength

The Bulls, I think, are going to stumble into some wins in their remaining 27 games, they have 8 more games against teams with a record worse than their own, 2 of those are against Philly.

I just hope they don't go on some weird winning streak. Sit Vucevic and Coby a few games here and there, they really need to embrace the tank and aim for that 6th slot.

[Guru]

Wembayamanya out for year......

[jnrjr79]

Strength of schedule remaining. Great tank resource. Looks like we're about middle of the pack currently right about even with Brooklyn and Portland. But Toronto and Philly at least with 2 of the weakest schedules left.

https://www.tankathon.com/remaining_schedule_strength

The Bulls, I think, are going to stumble into some wins in their remaining 27 games, they have 8 more games against teams with a record worse than their own, 2 of those are against Philly.

I just hope they don't go on some weird winning streak. Sit Vucevic and Coby a few games here and there, they really need to embrace the tank and aim for that 6th slot.

With Vooch's shooting falling off, I'm not sure fewer Vooch minutes and more Smith minutes improves the tank.

[cocktailswith_2short]

If the spurs get Flagg that be crazy . Two bigs with insane motor and skills . Both elite two way. Be unfair .

[Salo23]

If the spurs get Flagg that be crazy . Two bigs with insane motor and skills . Both elite two way. Be unfair .

Spurs will get the top pick, it’s the David Robinson injury landing them Tim Duncan all over again.

[HomoSapien]

Of the teams in our realm:

San Antonio - It's crazy to think they're only one game ahead of us in the win column, but outside of a wemby injury, it's hard to imagine they slip past us, they aren't incentivized IMO.

Well, well, well. Look what you wrote into existence you freaking witch.

Knowing Pop, he will use this as an excuse to tank. We might even see a Paul buyout. The only thing stopping this from happening is if Fox wants to make a playoff run. Even without Wemby and Paul, I think the Spurs have more talent than us but they are also more willing to openly tank whereas we are always trying to win games.

It's a huge longshot, but one consequence of this injury is that Portland will likely move ahead of SAS in the standings. Still incredibly unlikely they'll be able to move far ahead enough in the standings to get in the play-in territory, but it's possible --- especially if there are more key injuries.

[League Circles]

Strength of schedule remaining. Great tank resource. Looks like we're about middle of the pack currently right about even with Brooklyn and Portland. But Toronto and Philly at least with 2 of the weakest schedules left.

https://www.tankathon.com/remaining_schedule_strength

The Bulls, I think, are going to stumble into some wins in their remaining 27 games, they have 8 more games against teams with a record worse than their own, 2 of those are against Philly.

I just hope they don't go on some weird winning streak. Sit Vucevic and Coby a few games here and there, they really need to embrace the tank and aim for that 6th slot.

With Vooch's shooting falling off, I'm not sure fewer Vooch minutes and more Smith minutes improves the tank.

Smith has straight up been better than Vuc this year.

[Guru]

The Bulls, I think, are going to stumble into some wins in their remaining 27 games, they have 8 more games against teams with a record worse than their own, 2 of those are against Philly.

I just hope they don't go on some weird winning streak. Sit Vucevic and Coby a few games here and there, they really need to embrace the tank and aim for that 6th slot.

With Vooch's shooting falling off, I'm not sure fewer Vooch minutes and more Smith minutes improves the tank.

Smith has straight up been better than Vuc this year.

This is just wrong

[NecessaryEvil]

The Bulls need to drop to the 6th spot, IMO.

Assuming they don't move up, getting to choose between whomever is left from Tre Johnson, Kasparas Jakucionis & VJ Edgecombe would be a great way to start the rebuild (if that is what they're doing).

The Nets and Sixer are close by, it is possible.

Just started watching Tre highlights. He reminds me of Jamal Crawford with his mechanics.

I’d be down for that pick.

[League Circles]

With Vooch's shooting falling off, I'm not sure fewer Vooch minutes and more Smith minutes improves the tank.

Smith has straight up been better than Vuc this year.

This is just wrong

I mean, Smith is wildly better on defense, which is half the game. Offensively I'd give an edge to Vuc, though not enough to make up for how truly terrible he is on defense. Scoring volume (Vuc), efficiency (Vuc) and rebounding (Smith) are all very, very close.

Smith has been very good this year IMO. Not great, but good on both ends.

[Guru]

Smith has straight up been better than Vuc this year.

This is just wrong

I mean, Smith is wildly better on defense, which is half the game. Offensively I'd give an edge to Vuc, though not enough to make up for how truly terrible he is on defense. Scoring volume (Vuc), efficiency (Vuc) and rebounding (Smith) are all very, very close.

Smith has been very good this year IMO. Not great, but good on both ends.

I guess if your argument is they are both good I find that amenable, I am so used to people bashing Vuc

[jnrjr79]

This is just wrong

I mean, Smith is wildly better on defense, which is half the game. Offensively I'd give an edge to Vuc, though not enough to make up for how truly terrible he is on defense. Scoring volume (Vuc), efficiency (Vuc) and rebounding (Smith) are all very, very close.

Smith has been very good this year IMO. Not great, but good on both ends.

I guess if your argument is they are both good I find that amenable, I am so used to people bashing Vuc

Well, there have been two versions of Vooch. The version from last year that couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and was also a sieve on defense is a net-negative player. The version of Vooch this year where he's shooting 40%+ from 3 is probably a net-positive player.