Packers News, Transactions - 2025 off-season - McManus Signed - 3 Years/$15 million

[ReasonablySober]

ESPN:

Don't cut Jaire Alexander


Usually, the bold move is to cut an important star player. In Green Bay's case, the bold move is to keep him. Some reports say that Alexander is going to be cut soon. The Packers are tired of dealing with his injuries, as he has played in just seven games in two straight seasons. Alexander still has two years remaining on a huge extension he signed a couple of years ago. The Packers would pick up $6.8 million in salary cap space by cutting Alexander now, and more than $17 million if they designate him as a post-June 1 cut.

The problem is that Alexander is still very good when he plays. Alexander had a minus-45.1% coverage DVOA last season -- the same as Pat Surtain II, the reigning Defensive Player of the Year. The Packers have more than $42 million in cap space, so they don't need to make rash moves to trim talent. There's no guarantee Alexander can play a full season in 2025, but past injuries also don't guarantee future injuries. Green Bay should be bold and not let its best cornerback go elsewhere.

[neiLz]

With being able to roll over cap space into the next year, what is the benefit of cutting a guy now vs waiting for a june cut outside of creating more space now and pushing space to the future? The packers are almost 50 mil under the cap and if they cut jaire they add 6 more mil to the space, but with a june 1st cut they get that savings this year and spread it out over the 2 years...

but why push cap space to next year if theyre almost 50 mil under the cap this year? I'd rather pay for it up front now than push it over 2 years...

Unless they need that space now to lure free agents? but why cut an elite (when healthy) player if you're going to spend and bring vets in?

Andy Herman mentioned on 1250 this week he would be extremely surprised if Jaire is back with the team. Both sides are frustrated and it looks like he's probably gone.

[Profound23]

ESPN:

Don't cut Jaire Alexander


Usually, the bold move is to cut an important star player. In Green Bay's case, the bold move is to keep him. Some reports say that Alexander is going to be cut soon. The Packers are tired of dealing with his injuries, as he has played in just seven games in two straight seasons. Alexander still has two years remaining on a huge extension he signed a couple of years ago. The Packers would pick up $6.8 million in salary cap space by cutting Alexander now, and more than $17 million if they designate him as a post-June 1 cut.

The problem is that Alexander is still very good when he plays. Alexander had a minus-45.1% coverage DVOA last season -- the same as Pat Surtain II, the reigning Defensive Player of the Year. The Packers have more than $42 million in cap space, so they don't need to make rash moves to trim talent. There's no guarantee Alexander can play a full season in 2025, but past injuries also don't guarantee future injuries. Green Bay should be bold and not let its best cornerback go elsewhere.

I actually agree. Yes there are a lot of red flags, I wouldn't be mad if they cut him but I would hold on hoping he can stay healthy

[Treebeard]

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[Mtsportsfan]

ESPN:

Don't cut Jaire Alexander


Usually, the bold move is to cut an important star player. In Green Bay's case, the bold move is to keep him. Some reports say that Alexander is going to be cut soon. The Packers are tired of dealing with his injuries, as he has played in just seven games in two straight seasons. Alexander still has two years remaining on a huge extension he signed a couple of years ago. The Packers would pick up $6.8 million in salary cap space by cutting Alexander now, and more than $17 million if they designate him as a post-June 1 cut.

The problem is that Alexander is still very good when he plays. Alexander had a minus-45.1% coverage DVOA last season -- the same as Pat Surtain II, the reigning Defensive Player of the Year. The Packers have more than $42 million in cap space, so they don't need to make rash moves to trim talent. There's no guarantee Alexander can play a full season in 2025, but past injuries also don't guarantee future injuries. Green Bay should be bold and not let its best cornerback go elsewhere.

I actually agree. Yes there are a lot of red flags, I wouldn't be mad if they cut him but I would hold on hoping he can stay healthy

I'm with you , just can't predict injuries ! When he plays he's a all pro. Who's to say the guy we bring to take his place doesn't get hurt or the guy we draft isn't that good or doesn't figure it out for a couple of years. I think we are really close to be a actual contender , don't want to give up a bona fide talent, just keep your fingers crossed for a healthy season!

[stillgotgame]

I can predict which players get more injuries- older players. Older players are also always more expensive. I’d move on from Jaire.

I don’t think we’re that close to competing yet. Offensive line and WR both took a big step back this year. Defensive line can’t get to the QB. Cornerbacks can’t stay healthy.
We have a lot of holes to fill. Keep adding young guys through the draft and a couple in free agency, but nobody over 26-27.
It’s a process but we’ll get there.

[RRyder823]

I can predict which players get more injuries- older players. Older players are also always more expensive. I’d move on from Jaire.

I don’t think we’re that close to competing yet. Offensive line and WR both took a big step back this year. Defensive line can’t get to the QB. Cornerbacks can’t stay healthy.
We have a lot of holes to fill. Keep adding young guys through the draft and a couple in free agency, but nobody over 26-27.
It’s a process but we’ll get there.

Now different sites score offensive lines differently but I haven't seen any site that had GB with an oline that ranked worse then 9th (most of them have GB top 5 in pass blocking) so im not sure where you're getting that.

I'm also not sure where all these holes to fill are.

They need a pass rusher and CB is position to look at if they move from Jaire and WR became a spot to add to with the Watson injury but these are offseason issues every team has.

"Not close to competing yet" and "no one over 26-27"..........Please. This is a team that won 11 games with the youngest roster in the league. They aren't exactly in a need of an injection of youth or riddled with holes



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[stillgotgame]

I can predict which players get more injuries- older players. Older players are also always more expensive. I’d move on from Jaire.

I don’t think we’re that close to competing yet. Offensive line and WR both took a big step back this year. Defensive line can’t get to the QB. Cornerbacks can’t stay healthy.
We have a lot of holes to fill. Keep adding young guys through the draft and a couple in free agency, but nobody over 26-27.
It’s a process but we’ll get there.

Now different sites score offensive lines differently but I haven't seen any site that had GB with an oline that ranked worse then 9th (most of them have GB top 5 in pass blocking) so im not sure where you're getting that.

I'm also not sure where all these holes to fill are.

They need a pass rusher and CB is position to look at if they move from Jaire and WR became a spot to add to with the Watson injury but these are offseason issues every team has.

"Not close to competing yet" and "no one over 26-27"..........Please. This is a team that won 11 games with the youngest roster in the league. They aren't exactly in a need of an injection of youth or riddled with holes



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I guess if your goal is an early exit in the playoffs every year we’re there. But this team wasn’t close to being a Super Bowl contender.
Let Gute continue to draft and develop. Keep finding gems like Cooper and Evan Williams. Get rid of high priced older guys and work our way towards a roster that can compete with Philly and KC. Philly especially has loads more young talent than we do. With the cap going up they’ll be able to retain that talent.

[MickeyDavis]

I can predict which players get more injuries- older players. Older players are also always more expensive. I’d move on from Jaire.

I don’t think we’re that close to competing yet. Offensive line and WR both took a big step back this year. Defensive line can’t get to the QB. Cornerbacks can’t stay healthy.
We have a lot of holes to fill. Keep adding young guys through the draft and a couple in free agency, but nobody over 26-27.
It’s a process but we’ll get there.

Now different sites score offensive lines differently but I haven't seen any site that had GB with an oline that ranked worse then 9th (most of them have GB top 5 in pass blocking) so im not sure where you're getting that.

I'm also not sure where all these holes to fill are.

They need a pass rusher and CB is position to look at if they move from Jaire and WR became a spot to add to with the Watson injury but these are offseason issues every team has.

"Not close to competing yet" and "no one over 26-27"..........Please. This is a team that won 11 games with the youngest roster in the league. They aren't exactly in a need of an injection of youth or riddled with holes



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I guess if your goal is an early exit in the playoffs every year we’re there.

The goal for every team is to make the playoffs. Then you have a shot. We're there. We did that the last two years with the youngest team in the league. That's never been done once before in 100+ seasons. We did it twice. Of course we want to win a championship and will hopefully keep improving the roster until we get to that point. You do that with the draft and being smart about FA. We added two young studs in FA last year and drafted one. With cap space this year hopefully we do it again. The doom and gloom is misplaced imo

[RRyder823]

I can predict which players get more injuries- older players. Older players are also always more expensive. I’d move on from Jaire.

I don’t think we’re that close to competing yet. Offensive line and WR both took a big step back this year. Defensive line can’t get to the QB. Cornerbacks can’t stay healthy.
We have a lot of holes to fill. Keep adding young guys through the draft and a couple in free agency, but nobody over 26-27.
It’s a process but we’ll get there.

Now different sites score offensive lines differently but I haven't seen any site that had GB with an oline that ranked worse then 9th (most of them have GB top 5 in pass blocking) so im not sure where you're getting that.

I'm also not sure where all these holes to fill are.

They need a pass rusher and CB is position to look at if they move from Jaire and WR became a spot to add to with the Watson injury but these are offseason issues every team has.

"Not close to competing yet" and "no one over 26-27"..........Please. This is a team that won 11 games with the youngest roster in the league. They aren't exactly in a need of an injection of youth or riddled with holes



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I guess if your goal is an early exit in the playoffs every year we’re there. But this team wasn’t close to being a Super Bowl contender.
Let Gute continue to draft and develop. Keep finding gems like Cooper and Evan Williams. Get rid of high priced older guys and work our way towards a roster that can compete with Philly and KC. Philly especially has loads more young talent than we do. With the cap going up they’ll be able to retain that talent.

Oh good **** lord. They've made the POs with the youngest roster in the league two strait seasons and somehow there still isn't enough good young talent on this team?

That young talent only managed to do things never before done in the leagues history

Like WTF?

I would like to hear why you think the Oline play fell off last year when every metric I've seen has them squarely in the top 10 overall and elite in Pass Pro for this past season



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[Ron Swanson]

So we were arguably a missed chip-shot FG away from the NFCCG 13-months ago with the same roster but now we're "not even close to SB contenders"? The NFL is the most confirmation bias sport there is, and it's weird that people keep falling into these same hindsight analysis narratives. At no point last season did anyone actually think that the Eagles were the best team in football. They were 5th in total DVOA, 5th in SRS, and got incredibly lucky with matchups past the wildcard round. This team is right there.

[ReasonablySober]

The Packers submitted to the league a proposal to ban the tush push.

[humanrefutation]

The Packers submitted to the league a proposal to ban the tush push.

It probably should be banned, IMO. It's almost impossible to defend.

[Treebeard]

The Packers submitted to the league a proposal to ban the tush push.

It probably should be banned, IMO. It's almost impossible to defend.

The problem will come in where they draw the line on what constitutes a tush-push. Countless running plays include oline guys helping propel backs forward.

[ReasonablySober]

The Packers submitted to the league a proposal to ban the tush push.

It probably should be banned, IMO. It's almost impossible to defend.

The problem will come in where they draw the line on what constitutes a tush-push. Countless running plays include oline guys helping propel backs forward.

I've never liked runners getting help. Feels like multiple times a game a running back gets stood up but gains an extra three or four yards once the offensive line starts pushing them forward. It used to be illegal. They should outlaw it again.

[RRyder823]

The Packers submitted to the league a proposal to ban the tush push.

Didn't there used to be a rule that prohibited pushing ball carriers forward?

Edit: Just read your previous post. Yeah just outlaw that again.

You'd actually see once again which ball carriers can actually move a pile and not just the ones that can stay upright till the oline gets there

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[Ron Swanson]

I never understood how it was re-allowed in the first place since it was originally banned for a very logical reason. Like, how is a 300 lb dude literally picking up a QB and throwing him forward ok, yet their "forward progress" stops when a defender does the same? Of course, doing this now just invites the "sore loser" takes, but this should have been outlawed after the first season they started doing it.

[dogswithbeesintheirmouths]

I never understood how it was re-allowed in the first place since it was originally banned for a very logical reason. Like, how is a 300 lb dude literally picking up a QB and throwing him forward ok, yet their "forward progress" stops when a defender does the same? Of course, doing this now just invites the "sore loser" takes, but this should have been outlawed after the first season they started doing it.

I feel like there was a pretty long period of time where players would do it but not as blatantly or as often because they knew it was technically illegal. But no one ever got called for a penalty so they just did it more and more until they made it legal.

[PintSizedBox10]

Embarrassing look from the Packers

[MickeyDavis]

Embarrassing look from the Packers

Who cares? Teams propose rule changes every year. As noted above it used to be illegal.