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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#641 » by Hal14 » Fri Feb 21, 2025 2:34 pm

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redslastlaugh wrote:Sam Vecenie made a video mock and drafted for the C’s at 2:31:55

Vecenie took Kam Jones SG from Marquette and said Celts are only interested in drafting a player that’s a shooter.

I was thinking about Sam Vecenie saying he’s heard Celts are only considering drafting 3pt shooters and I realized the front office under Brad has been very leaky about their draft plans. Look at the history:

2021 and 2022 we didn’t have a pick in the top 40.

In 2023 both Vecenie and Woo said the Celts were targeting a 3-D wing, specifically OMax Prosper and if he comes off the board a younger defensive wing to develop, specifically Julian Phillips or Jordan Walsh. Vecenie mentioned this intention before we picked.

In Givonys ESPN mock last May/June, he said Baylor Scheierman was the Celtics target and #30 was Scheierman floor. Jon said this weeks before the draft.

And now, in February, Vecenie is already reporting Brads strategy for the 2025 draft.

Why is the front office so leaky under Brad Stevens? Yes, sometimes Danny’s favorites got into the draft press in advance of the draft, but many, many times Danny held that info under wraps. Nobody had Terry Rozier going to Boston in the 1st round in 2015. And absolutely nobody had Payton Pritchard going #26 in 2020.

Who in the front office is tipping the C’s hand to draft journalists days, weeks, months before the draft… lol, my advice to the front office is: stop doing that! It’s dumb.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. When we take a step back and look at the big picture, not just at draft picks but all front office moves, Brad's track record is insanely good since taking over.

He's already got 1 ring, 1 EoTY award and likely more of both on the way in the future. I think what he's doing is working.

Also, it's just the reality of the world we live in in 2025. Agents have agendas - they're all trying to get more $ for their clients. So they will talk and leak info. Meanwhile, any random person these days can make a twitter/instagram account and become a "journalist". There's literally thousands of people out there online trying to dig for info, get "scoops", report transactions, etc and they're all trying to be the first one, the smartest one. Tons of info (some accurate, some not) is all over the web and social media.

There's nowhere to hide for these NBA execs. They'll be at a game, scouting another NBA team, and out of nowhere a "reporter" sticks their phone in front of their face, asking them questions..

Also, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out we might take a shooter.
-We got rid of Banton, got rid of Lamar Stevens, got rid of Springer, got rid of Brissett..all struggled with shooting.
-Svi didn't shoot great when he was here either..and as a result, he barely played and then signed elsewhere.
-Walsh hasn't been getting mins. Often times, Peterson (the better shooter) has played over him
-Scheierman hasn't shot well in Boston so far, so he hasn't played much..but Scheierman was a good shooter in college which is why we drafted him
-We got Craig, who's a good shooter
-Watson, for how late in the draft we took him, at that point in the draft, he was about as good a shooter as there was left on the board..especially for a player of that size
-Tillman hasn't been shooting well this season and his playing time has dropped big time
-We shoot more 3's than any team in NBA history
-Only guys Mazzulla plays who don't shoot are good lob catchers/rim protectors/screeners who are 7 feet tall..Kornet and Queta
-The guys we have drafted late 1st round or 2nd round or UDFA in recent yrs who have been rotation players have all been shooters (Hauser, Pritchard, Grant)
-Begarin can't shoot and has yet to be brought over
-JD has shooting questions and is stuck in Maine

Vecenie maybe just put all these clues together and figured that we'll go for a shooter..or maybe that intel surfaced somehow through the web of tweets, posts, articles, vids or phone calls, text messages, in person conversations/interviews among agents, reporters, bloggers, coaches, etc.
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion - as long as it's done respectfully. It'd be lame if we all agreed on everything :)
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#642 » by 165bows » Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:01 pm

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165bows wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:I was thinking about Sam Vecenie saying he’s heard Celts are only considering drafting 3pt shooters and I realized the front office under Brad has been very leaky about their draft plans. Look at the history:

2021 and 2022 we didn’t have a pick in the top 40.

In 2023 both Vecenie and Woo said the Celts were targeting a 3-D wing, specifically OMax Prosper and if he comes off the board a younger defensive wing to develop, specifically Julian Phillips or Jordan Walsh. Vecenie mentioned this intention before we picked.

In Givonys ESPN mock last May/June, he said Baylor Scheierman was the Celtics target and #30 was Scheierman floor. Jon said this weeks before the draft.

And now, in February, Vecenie is already reporting Brads strategy for the 2025 draft.

Why is the front office so leaky under Brad Stevens? Yes, sometimes Danny’s favorites got into the draft press in advance of the draft, but many, many times Danny held that info under wraps. Nobody had Terry Rozier going to Boston in the 1st round in 2015. And absolutely nobody had Payton Pritchard going #26 in 2020.

Who in the front office is tipping the C’s hand to draft journalists days, weeks, months before the draft… lol, my advice to the front office is: stop doing that! It’s dumb.

I’d guess it’s largely what they communicate to players/agents.

If it is the case what’s the list? Kam Jones, Alex Karaban, maybe other local guy Sanon?

I don't necessarily agree it's the case, but there's also Fleming, Byrd, Wolf, Raynaud, Jase, Boogie, Riley, Jackson, Catchings. Lots of guys in the range that can shoot - not all knockdown / lights out guys, but not guys with knocks on their shooting either.

Well I think if we are saying they are looking at guys that can shoot, then they have to be plus shooters in some way, not necessarily excellent. Fleming (and Richrdson also) will prob be long gone, and it is kind of a short list imo, those some of those guys would be good adds to it.

Starting to think the later parts of this draft are just average and they select a second rounder and punt the first into future assets.
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Post#643 » by djFan71 » Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:39 pm

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djFan71 wrote:
165bows wrote:I’d guess it’s largely what they communicate to players/agents.

If it is the case what’s the list? Kam Jones, Alex Karaban, maybe other local guy Sanon?

I don't necessarily agree it's the case, but there's also Fleming, Byrd, Wolf, Raynaud, Jase, Boogie, Riley, Jackson, Catchings. Lots of guys in the range that can shoot - not all knockdown / lights out guys, but not guys with knocks on their shooting either.

Well I think if we are saying they are looking at guys that can shoot, then they have to be plus shooters in some way, not necessarily excellent. Fleming (and Richrdson also) will prob be long gone, and it is kind of a short list imo, those some of those guys would be good adds to it.

Starting to think the later parts of this draft are just average and they select a second rounder and punt the first into future assets.

As always I want both a higher pick (Fleming) and a whole bunch of darts for 2nds, lol.
I agree with the general point - someone like Thiero probably isn't going to be the guy (tho, maybe....). But I don't think it swings as far as it has to be a Karaban, Kam type. They're definitely in the mix, though.

I'm kinda leaning now to if Byrd or Fleming last to trade up range or all the way to 28, grab them. Otherwise, punt for a later 2nd and future 2nd.

I still like ORL and a KCP & 16 & 44 for Jrue & 28, 31 type swap as well. Figure out the ORL filler that needs to go elsewhere and what we'd need to add to make it happen. Probably Harris. Get Fleming and KCP.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#644 » by phincsfan » Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:47 pm

djFan71 wrote:
165bows wrote:
djFan71 wrote:I don't necessarily agree it's the case, but there's also Fleming, Byrd, Wolf, Raynaud, Jase, Boogie, Riley, Jackson, Catchings. Lots of guys in the range that can shoot - not all knockdown / lights out guys, but not guys with knocks on their shooting either.

Well I think if we are saying they are looking at guys that can shoot, then they have to be plus shooters in some way, not necessarily excellent. Fleming (and Richrdson also) will prob be long gone, and it is kind of a short list imo, those some of those guys would be good adds to it.

Starting to think the later parts of this draft are just average and they select a second rounder and punt the first into future assets.

As always I want both a higher pick (Fleming) and a whole bunch of darts for 2nds, lol.
I agree with the general point - someone like Thiero probably isn't going to be the guy (tho, maybe....). But I don't think it swings as far as it has to be a Karaban, Kam type. They're definitely in the mix, though.

I'm kinda leaning now to if Byrd or Fleming last to trade up range or all the way to 28, grab them. Otherwise, punt for a later 2nd and future 2nd.

I still like ORL and a KCP & 16 & 44 for Jrue & 28, 31 type swap as well. Figure out the ORL filler that needs to go elsewhere and what we'd need to add to make it happen. Probably Harris. Get Fleming and KCP.


That'd be tough for Orlando because they still have a team option on Mo Wagner. I can't see them not picking it up even with the torn ACL. They pick that up and trade Jrue for Pope and they'll be hard capped. 25/26 is a big payroll decision year for them.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#645 » by djFan71 » Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:55 pm

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djFan71 wrote:
165bows wrote:Well I think if we are saying they are looking at guys that can shoot, then they have to be plus shooters in some way, not necessarily excellent. Fleming (and Richrdson also) will prob be long gone, and it is kind of a short list imo, those some of those guys would be good adds to it.

Starting to think the later parts of this draft are just average and they select a second rounder and punt the first into future assets.

As always I want both a higher pick (Fleming) and a whole bunch of darts for 2nds, lol.
I agree with the general point - someone like Thiero probably isn't going to be the guy (tho, maybe....). But I don't think it swings as far as it has to be a Karaban, Kam type. They're definitely in the mix, though.

I'm kinda leaning now to if Byrd or Fleming last to trade up range or all the way to 28, grab them. Otherwise, punt for a later 2nd and future 2nd.

I still like ORL and a KCP & 16 & 44 for Jrue & 28, 31 type swap as well. Figure out the ORL filler that needs to go elsewhere and what we'd need to add to make it happen. Probably Harris. Get Fleming and KCP.


That'd be tough for Orlando because they still have a team option on Mo Wagner. I can't see them not picking it up even with the torn ACL. They pick that up and trade Jrue for Pope and they'll be hard capped. 25/26 is a big payroll decision year for them.

It's only $7.3M difference in their 25-26 salary. I just think he'd be a great fit for them with his skills/leadership to take that next step.

I don't know how they value the end of their roster much, but Harris is an option, so picking it up / sending him out doesn't really save anything for them. But, what about Cole Anthony? Get Jrue, send out KCP/Cole, they save money. Cole is probably slightly negative value, but nothing a meh pick wouldn't fix. Jett probably can go out for neutral / tiny positive value as well.

At draft with a 3rd team and some 2nds, you can fix a lot of things.
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Post#646 » by 165bows » Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:56 pm

djFan71 wrote:
165bows wrote:
djFan71 wrote:I don't necessarily agree it's the case, but there's also Fleming, Byrd, Wolf, Raynaud, Jase, Boogie, Riley, Jackson, Catchings. Lots of guys in the range that can shoot - not all knockdown / lights out guys, but not guys with knocks on their shooting either.

Well I think if we are saying they are looking at guys that can shoot, then they have to be plus shooters in some way, not necessarily excellent. Fleming (and Richrdson also) will prob be long gone, and it is kind of a short list imo, those some of those guys would be good adds to it.

Starting to think the later parts of this draft are just average and they select a second rounder and punt the first into future assets.

As always I want both a higher pick (Fleming) and a whole bunch of darts for 2nds, lol.
I agree with the general point - someone like Thiero probably isn't going to be the guy (tho, maybe....). But I don't think it swings as far as it has to be a Karaban, Kam type. They're definitely in the mix, though.

I'm kinda leaning now to if Byrd or Fleming last to trade up range or all the way to 28, grab them. Otherwise, punt for a later 2nd and future 2nd.

I still like ORL and a KCP & 16 & 44 for Jrue & 28, 31 type swap as well. Figure out the ORL filler that needs to go elsewhere and what we'd need to add to make it happen. Probably Harris. Get Fleming and KCP.

I'm on Team Keep the Starters (or Rotation Guys) and just add a rookie.

I'd add Bird to the list also. Just seems like a lot of these guys are going earlier, Kam Jones, Jase Richardson, Fleming etc.

S2N has prob mentioned him three years ago or whatever but the Spanish guy Sergio de Larrea could be in the mix for me too. 6'5"+ ballhandler seems like a guy they would like.
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Post#647 » by phincsfan » Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:05 pm

djFan71 wrote:
phincsfan wrote:
djFan71 wrote:As always I want both a higher pick (Fleming) and a whole bunch of darts for 2nds, lol.
I agree with the general point - someone like Thiero probably isn't going to be the guy (tho, maybe....). But I don't think it swings as far as it has to be a Karaban, Kam type. They're definitely in the mix, though.

I'm kinda leaning now to if Byrd or Fleming last to trade up range or all the way to 28, grab them. Otherwise, punt for a later 2nd and future 2nd.

I still like ORL and a KCP & 16 & 44 for Jrue & 28, 31 type swap as well. Figure out the ORL filler that needs to go elsewhere and what we'd need to add to make it happen. Probably Harris. Get Fleming and KCP.


That'd be tough for Orlando because they still have a team option on Mo Wagner. I can't see them not picking it up even with the torn ACL. They pick that up and trade Jrue for Pope and they'll be hard capped. 25/26 is a big payroll decision year for them.

It's only $7.3M difference in their 25-26 salary. I just think he'd be a great fit for them with his skills/leadership to take that next step.

I don't know how they value the end of their roster much, but Harris is an option, so picking it up / sending him out doesn't really save anything for them. But, what about Cole Anthony? Get Jrue, send out KCP/Cole, they save money. Cole is probably slightly negative value, but nothing a meh pick wouldn't fix. Jett probably can go out for neutral / tiny positive value as well.

At draft with a 3rd team and some 2nds, you can fix a lot of things.


Jrue's at 32.4mil in 25/26

Pope's at 21.6mil in 25/26

Unless you're speaking about someone else?

Also that 16th vs 28th pick is gonna be around or about 3.5mil vs 2.2mil.
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Post#648 » by djFan71 » Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:05 pm

165bows wrote:
djFan71 wrote:
165bows wrote:Well I think if we are saying they are looking at guys that can shoot, then they have to be plus shooters in some way, not necessarily excellent. Fleming (and Richrdson also) will prob be long gone, and it is kind of a short list imo, those some of those guys would be good adds to it.

Starting to think the later parts of this draft are just average and they select a second rounder and punt the first into future assets.

As always I want both a higher pick (Fleming) and a whole bunch of darts for 2nds, lol.
I agree with the general point - someone like Thiero probably isn't going to be the guy (tho, maybe....). But I don't think it swings as far as it has to be a Karaban, Kam type. They're definitely in the mix, though.

I'm kinda leaning now to if Byrd or Fleming last to trade up range or all the way to 28, grab them. Otherwise, punt for a later 2nd and future 2nd.

I still like ORL and a KCP & 16 & 44 for Jrue & 28, 31 type swap as well. Figure out the ORL filler that needs to go elsewhere and what we'd need to add to make it happen. Probably Harris. Get Fleming and KCP.

I'm on Team Keep the Starters (or Rotation Guys) and just add a rookie.

I'd add Bird to the list also. Just seems like a lot of these guys are going earlier, Kam Jones, Jase Richardson, Fleming etc.

S2N has prob mentioned him three years ago or whatever but the Spanish guy Sergio de Larrea could be in the mix for me too. 6'5"+ ballhandler seems like a guy they would like.

Agree with the bold, but at the same time they can't ALL go earlier. Or somebody else drops.

I'm definitely on team pay them all as well if it's remotely an option. 28 is almost assuredly gone in that scenario, though.
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Post#649 » by djFan71 » Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:07 pm

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djFan71 wrote:
phincsfan wrote:
That'd be tough for Orlando because they still have a team option on Mo Wagner. I can't see them not picking it up even with the torn ACL. They pick that up and trade Jrue for Pope and they'll be hard capped. 25/26 is a big payroll decision year for them.

It's only $7.3M difference in their 25-26 salary. I just think he'd be a great fit for them with his skills/leadership to take that next step.

I don't know how they value the end of their roster much, but Harris is an option, so picking it up / sending him out doesn't really save anything for them. But, what about Cole Anthony? Get Jrue, send out KCP/Cole, they save money. Cole is probably slightly negative value, but nothing a meh pick wouldn't fix. Jett probably can go out for neutral / tiny positive value as well.

At draft with a 3rd team and some 2nds, you can fix a lot of things.


Jrue's at 32.4mil in 25/26

Pope's at 21.6mil in 25/26

Unless you're speaking about someone else?

Also that 16th vs 28th pick is gonna be around or about 3.5mil vs 2.2mil.

Ah, dang, thought I switched to next year, but didn't. Mine were this season #s. Either way, Cole makes up the difference and more.
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Post#650 » by phincsfan » Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:11 pm

165bows wrote:
djFan71 wrote:
165bows wrote:Well I think if we are saying they are looking at guys that can shoot, then they have to be plus shooters in some way, not necessarily excellent. Fleming (and Richrdson also) will prob be long gone, and it is kind of a short list imo, those some of those guys would be good adds to it.

Starting to think the later parts of this draft are just average and they select a second rounder and punt the first into future assets.

As always I want both a higher pick (Fleming) and a whole bunch of darts for 2nds, lol.
I agree with the general point - someone like Thiero probably isn't going to be the guy (tho, maybe....). But I don't think it swings as far as it has to be a Karaban, Kam type. They're definitely in the mix, though.

I'm kinda leaning now to if Byrd or Fleming last to trade up range or all the way to 28, grab them. Otherwise, punt for a later 2nd and future 2nd.

I still like ORL and a KCP & 16 & 44 for Jrue & 28, 31 type swap as well. Figure out the ORL filler that needs to go elsewhere and what we'd need to add to make it happen. Probably Harris. Get Fleming and KCP.

I'm on Team Keep the Starters (or Rotation Guys) and just add a rookie.

I'd add Bird to the list also. Just seems like a lot of these guys are going earlier, Kam Jones, Jase Richardson, Fleming etc.

S2N has prob mentioned him three years ago or whatever but the Spanish guy Sergio de Larrea could be in the mix for me too. 6'5"+ ballhandler seems like a guy they would like.


I wouldn't be shocked if Richardson goes in the lottery. Kids a dawg, great pedigree, good size and he's a decent shooter
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Post#651 » by 165bows » Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:19 pm

djFan71 wrote:
165bows wrote:
djFan71 wrote:As always I want both a higher pick (Fleming) and a whole bunch of darts for 2nds, lol.
I agree with the general point - someone like Thiero probably isn't going to be the guy (tho, maybe....). But I don't think it swings as far as it has to be a Karaban, Kam type. They're definitely in the mix, though.

I'm kinda leaning now to if Byrd or Fleming last to trade up range or all the way to 28, grab them. Otherwise, punt for a later 2nd and future 2nd.

I still like ORL and a KCP & 16 & 44 for Jrue & 28, 31 type swap as well. Figure out the ORL filler that needs to go elsewhere and what we'd need to add to make it happen. Probably Harris. Get Fleming and KCP.

I'm on Team Keep the Starters (or Rotation Guys) and just add a rookie.

I'd add Bird to the list also. Just seems like a lot of these guys are going earlier, Kam Jones, Jase Richardson, Fleming etc.

S2N has prob mentioned him three years ago or whatever but the Spanish guy Sergio de Larrea could be in the mix for me too. 6'5"+ ballhandler seems like a guy they would like.

Agree with the bold, but at the same time they can't ALL go earlier. Or somebody else drops.

I'm definitely on team pay them all as well if it's remotely an option. 28 is almost assuredly gone in that scenario, though.

Yeah I'm thinking 28 prob is going going gone. The current tankathon mock makes sense to me, with all of CMB, Sorber, Richardson, Kam Jones, Fleming all going in a run by the teens and early twenties.

Still a month+ to go and workout/combine season but just feeling like they will end up in the bargain bin, Nique Clifford, Raynaud/Kalkbrenner, Karaban/little more generic older guy niche role player kind of guy range.
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Post#652 » by djFan71 » Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:12 pm

165bows wrote:
djFan71 wrote:
165bows wrote:I'm on Team Keep the Starters (or Rotation Guys) and just add a rookie.

I'd add Bird to the list also. Just seems like a lot of these guys are going earlier, Kam Jones, Jase Richardson, Fleming etc.

S2N has prob mentioned him three years ago or whatever but the Spanish guy Sergio de Larrea could be in the mix for me too. 6'5"+ ballhandler seems like a guy they would like.

Agree with the bold, but at the same time they can't ALL go earlier. Or somebody else drops.

I'm definitely on team pay them all as well if it's remotely an option. 28 is almost assuredly gone in that scenario, though.

Yeah I'm thinking 28 prob is going going gone. The current tankathon mock makes sense to me, with all of CMB, Sorber, Richardson, Kam Jones, Fleming all going in a run by the teens and early twenties.

Still a month+ to go and workout/combine season but just feeling like they will end up in the bargain bin, Nique Clifford, Raynaud/Kalkbrenner, Karaban/little more generic older guy niche role player kind of guy range.

I'd counter with Jackson, Beringer, Riley, Penda types. Maybe Carter Bryant but he's probably gone too.

If we are in "run it back again" mode, those older, play now types aren't going to play anyways. So, gimme more potential for Maine or Europe.
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Post#653 » by djFan71 » Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:42 pm

Hauser and 28 to DET for 18ish. No money back. Get Fleming. Save big bucks. Maybe a future 2nd too if I’m being greedy.

How’s that for a zag?
EDIT pretty bad. Looks like their pick goes to MIN according to tankathon
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Post#654 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:21 pm

My Celtics Trade Of The Day

Hauser, 28 and a 2026 First Round Pick Swap (Top 1 Protected) to the Spurs for Number 11...

Why for the Celtics?
Move out from Hauser's contract and put themselves in position to take the Best Shooter Available. They could also go after a
young Big...

Why for the Spurs?

If Wemby's going to play next season, they need to surround him with veteran shooters and few are better at it than Sam...
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Post#655 » by djFan71 » Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:31 pm

BKN at 20 (via Bucks) might be fun in a 3 team for Hauser. They have too many picks this year. But, they're probably not ready to want a guy like Hauser.

Hauser to 3rd team contender
Bad contract, future 1st, other pick(s) from 3rd team to BKN
20 to BOS

Other picks from 3rd team depend on how bad the bad contract is.
We presumably trade 28 for future 2nds and take 20 & 31. We save somewhere in $9M range. Force Joe to play a Walsh/Baylor/Peterson type and/or 20.
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Post#656 » by redslastlaugh » Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:39 pm

Sure, these are all good points, but the issue of Jon Givony specifically saying prdraft that Baylor Scheierman’s floor was pick #30 to Boston, let’s teams picking 31-> know that they’re gonna need to get to 29 if they want to draft Scheierman before Brad can get him.

Remember, in 2020 Payton Pritchard didn’t think the Cs were gonna take him and thought he was goin #29 to Toronto (Raps ended up taking Malachi Flynn) but Danny didn’t tip his hand and kept PPs name out of the press. Had Masai known in advance we were taking Pritchard at #26 he’d be able consider trading up to 24 or 25 to steal Payton from Danny.

It’s better to keep the name of your draft target secret, IMO

Hal14 wrote:Also, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out we might take a shooter.
-We got rid of Banton, got rid of Lamar Stevens, got rid of Springer, got rid of Brissett..all struggled with shooting.
-Svi didn't shoot great when he was here either..and as a result, he barely played and then signed elsewhere.
-Walsh hasn't been getting mins. Often times, Peterson (the better shooter) has played over him
-Scheierman hasn't shot well in Boston so far, so he hasn't played much..but Scheierman was a good shooter in college which is why we drafted him
-We got Craig, who's a good shooter
-Watson, for how late in the draft we took him, at that point in the draft, he was about as good a shooter as there was left on the board..especially for a player of that size
-Tillman hasn't been shooting well this season and his playing time has dropped big time
-We shoot more 3's than any team in NBA history
-Only guys Mazzulla plays who don't shoot are good lob catchers/rim protectors/screeners who are 7 feet tall..Kornet and Queta
-The guys we have drafted late 1st round or 2nd round or UDFA in recent yrs who have been rotation players have all been shooters (Hauser, Pritchard, Grant)
-Begarin can't shoot and has yet to be brought over
-JD has shooting questions and is stuck in Maine

Vecenie maybe just put all these clues together and figured that we'll go for a shooter..or maybe that intel surfaced somehow through the web of tweets, posts, articles, vids or phone calls, text messages, in person conversations/interviews among agents, reporters, bloggers, coaches, etc.
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Post#657 » by redslastlaugh » Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:44 pm

Brooklyn has all those picks and also tons of capspace, spotrac projects $90 million in capspace for the Nets, I think.

Probably Brooklyn is gonna be approached to the the 3rd team at least a hundred trades this offseason, lol
djFan71 wrote:BKN at 20 (via Bucks) might be fun in a 3 team for Hauser. They have too many picks this year. But, they're probably not ready to want a guy like Hauser.

Hauser to 3rd team contender
Bad contract, future 1st, other pick(s) from 3rd team to BKN
20 to BOS

Other picks from 3rd team depend on how bad the bad contract is.
We presumably trade 28 for future 2nds and take 20 & 31. We save somewhere in $9M range. Force Joe to play a Walsh/Baylor/Peterson type and/or 20.
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Post#658 » by djFan71 » Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:45 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Brooklyn has all those picks and also tons of capspace, spotrac projects $90 million in capspace for the Nets, I think.

Probably Brooklyn is gonna be approached to the the 3rd team at least a hundred trades this offseason, lol
djFan71 wrote:BKN at 20 (via Bucks) might be fun in a 3 team for Hauser. They have too many picks this year. But, they're probably not ready to want a guy like Hauser.

Hauser to 3rd team contender
Bad contract, future 1st, other pick(s) from 3rd team to BKN
20 to BOS

Other picks from 3rd team depend on how bad the bad contract is.
We presumably trade 28 for future 2nds and take 20 & 31. We save somewhere in $9M range. Force Joe to play a Walsh/Baylor/Peterson type and/or 20.

Yep, just getting mine in early, lol.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#659 » by phincsfan » Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:50 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:My Celtics Trade Of The Day

Hauser, 28 and a 2026 First Round Pick Swap (Top 1 Protected) to the Spurs for Number 11...

Why for the Celtics?
Move out from Hauser's contract and put themselves in position to take the Best Shooter Available. They could also go after a
young Big...

Why for the Spurs?

If Wemby's going to play next season, they need to surround him with veteran shooters and few are better at it than Sam...


I hate to say it, but DVT could be pretty dangerous. I don't see the Spurs moving any of their 1st round picks that will be lottery one's.
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Post#660 » by Hal14 » Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:53 pm

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